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I noticed this article was tagged "globalize" since July 2020. I agree it would be much improved with more information about the history of Queer art in other cultures. However it is possible this is complicated in terms of research, in cultures which are not open to discussing Queer topics. Joojay (talk) 17:17, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Everything in this article is relevant and up to date. The article does a good job of representing minority groups but I think there should be more on Drag in the article. I also think that it mostly focuses on American Queer Art and doesnt really feature anything from outside of the US.
• The article is neutral in stance and viewpoints seem to be fair.
• All of the links work, and are connected to the main article. Each reference is from a reliable source and comes from different authors.
• The talk page has very little going on, there is one reply that brought up the same thing I mentioned.
• I am wondering why this article is so America centered as well?

Micklepickle01 (talk) 22:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) JuniperChill (talk) 15:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Queer art → LGBT art – "LGBT art" is more commonly used than "queer art" and more inclusive. LGBT is also the standard naming pattern for LGBT/Q topics on Wikipedia. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 14:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose for now. I'm pretty dubious that "LGBT art" is more commonly used than "queer art" in art history and art criticism. Anything to support that assertion? Johnbod (talk) 19:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Actually queer seems to be more inclusive than LGBT to me. Google returns 128K (LGBT art) vs 197K (queer art) and Google Scholar returns 213K (LGBT art) vs over one million (queer art) results. Apart from the controversial usage of the term queer I cannot see that the term LGBT art is more common. Killarnee (talk) 19:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Visual arts has been notified of this discussion. Killarnee (talk) 19:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject LGBT studies has been notified of this discussion. Killarnee (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - "queer" is the more commonly used academic term 2001:579:83BC:640:D9A8:89FD:B392:DD24 (talk) 19:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose - A quick Google Scholar test returns about 9530 results for queer art, but only about 153 for LGBT art. Unless the nominator can demonstrate with an array of sources that "LGBT art" is the more commonly used term, I can't support this request. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. "Queer" is used much more widely in academia. While we currently use "LGBT" across Wikipedia for topic headers, I think here (like Queer studies and Queer theory) is the Common Name. (There are also other cases where "queer" is the preferred term of art, such as New queer cinema.) But it is worth noting that we have RM discussions to move from "LGBT" to something more up-to-date quite often. Wikipedia is a trailling indicator of terminology so, while those RM discussions have always decided that it's not yet time to change because LGBT is not yet fully superseded, I'm sure there will come a point when that changes. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 13:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Meanwhile, LGBT art is at least worth a redirect here, so I've done that. Also LGBT+ art which is mentioned & bolded at the start. Johnbod (talk) 14:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per above arguments regarding the current title being the common name. Additionally, the current consensus is not to standardize between LGBT/LGBTQ/LGBTQ+/Queer, so that is not a reason to move.--Trystan (talk) 15:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per everyone else—blindlynx 15:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Inclusivity aside, "Queer art" is more the technical academic term in art critique. LGBT art might reasonably be described as semantically different. Antisymmetricnoise (talk) 00:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – Per WP:PRECISE. LGBT topics make more sense during a search than "Queer" Svartner (talk) 03:57, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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