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1 Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment  
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2 Untitled  
4 comments  




3 Rosenbergs  
1 comment  




4 Naming  





5 More naming  





6 Bad Translation  





7 Joe 1  
3 comments  




8 Picture  
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9 lights on the shell?  
3 comments  




10 Uranium or plutonium?  
5 comments  




11 Droppable?  
2 comments  




12 first lightning  
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13 Summary  





14 First Lightning  
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(William M. Connolley 23:42, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)) A couple of questions/comment:

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Skylab1995.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignmentbyPrimeBOT (talk) 07:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

Nice picture.

www-traditio-ru/index.php/Советский_атомный_проект#_note-1

Rosenbergs[edit]

The original wording implied that the Rosenbergs were the central figures in the passing of nuclear secrets. When the dominoes began to fall, it was Fuchs who fell first, who then named others, who in turn named Julius Rosenberg. Thus I entered Fuchs where the Rosenbergs were. Wulfe 21:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)Wulfe[reply]

Naming[edit]

Is there a reason the article is called "Joe One" rather than "Joe-1" or "Joe 1"? I've never seen a source use the former, with the spelled "One." Is this a Wikipedia naming convention? It's not crucial but I find it a little odd (especially since we also have Joe 4). --Fastfission 01:17, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

More naming[edit]

Mea culpa. I wrote the original, and if a better title is appropriate, fine. It hit me too, as Joe 4 is titled as such. I was about to move the article once, but got too distracted. This I shall do now.

dino 19:44, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bad Translation[edit]

The first translation seems wrong. It would seem more appropriate that RDS would be more like "Russia does it herself" not "russia makes it herself." Although "made" is I suppose is a fairly accurate translation (as the verb делать can mean both to make and to do), how many times does anyone "make" a nuclear weapon - normally you build, or construct one. However, if you accomplish something on your own, you have "done it yourself." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.178.54.217 (talkcontribs) 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Joe 1[edit]

Why is it redirected from the official RDS-1 to Joe 1, surely it should work the other way around. --60.224.14.194 02:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But then why does "Nazi Party" redirect to National Socialist German Workers Party? The official name RDS-1 would be better here, i think. 87.33.53.61 13:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture[edit]

I found a website which claims the picture for Joe-1 is actually that of the 1965 "Chagan" nuclear test instead. Somebeody should confirm this. http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/Sovwpnprog.html

lights on the shell?[edit]

Their appears to be to lights on the front of the RSD 1's shell. can anyone prove or disprove this? The reason this would actually make sense is to alert the crew of the bomber to its position. Or it could be a form of terrorism (IF they dropped one bomb and there where survivors then they could just drop a shell to scare a city sense less.--GMWhilhuffTarkin (talk) 19:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uranium or plutonium?[edit]

DOES NOT SAY WHAT NUCLEAR FUEL WAS USED. I presume it was Plutonium? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.239.253 (talk) 11:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes --Mr.98 (talk) 17:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I repeat the question. The article does not make it clear whether the bomb was an uranium bomb or a plutonium bomb. This information should be made more clear. Also, I suppose the U.S. knew from the fallout the type of the bomb. Was this information published? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 14:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it was a copy of the plutonium-bomb Fat Man. So it should have been a plutonium bomb. But what i want to know: where did the plutonium come from? Not from a uranium enrichment plant. So why mention that "A uranium-235 plant was built near Chelyabinsk in 1948."?ospalh (talk) 20:29, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Chelyabinsk-65. "The first production reactor (Reactor A) went into operation in June 1948 and the first batch of plutonium was produced at the radiochemical plant (Plant B) on February 26, 1948." Wait. What‽ The reactor had produced plutonium before it became critical? I'd guess the Pu probably came from those reactors anyway. But is that good enoughospalh (talk) 21:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Droppable?[edit]

The pic clearly shows a droppable bomb. The first US tests weren't. I suppose the USSR might really have done its first test with a "weaponised" droppable form, but it seems a bit unlikely. Does anyone know for sure? Was the actual test done from a tower, or dropped? William M. Connolley (talk) 09:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seems likely.
  • The design was already tested by the U.S.
  • The aim of the test was to test the effects on infrastructure. (note "metro")
  • The first Soviet hydrogen bomb tests were weaponised (if I remember correctly).
  • Even the Tsar Bomba test was weaponised.
-- Petri Krohn (talk) 14:38, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

first lightning[edit]

much more interesting name than 'RDS-1' imho. Decora (talk) 21:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Summary[edit]

For those that may be confused after teying to make sense of the comments above:

  1. RDS - The meaning is at present unclear, but it certainly does not mean "Stalin's Rocket Engine" (Reaktivnyi Dvigatel Stalina).
  2. Joe-1, Joe-2 etc. refer to the test shots and not to the weapons or warheads used in them.

First Lightning[edit]

Is there an reliable source of this naming? Russians are strongly disagree with that one - they said it never occured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.72.24.59 (talk) 17:12, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It went off like g-g-greased lightning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.67.149.171 (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
According to the editor of the book on Soviet Strategic Rocket Forces, Pavel Podrig, the name First Lightening was not heard in the Soviet Union until the 90s. He says that in a comment on Wellerstein's blog, though I don't remember which article. SkoreKeep (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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