A news item involving Raif Badawi was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 1 November 2015.
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It's #FreeSpeechStories. Tweet about it. "That which is not just is not law, and that which is not law, ought not to be obeyed." Fuck the draconian and satanic Saudi Arabian regime. Demand the release of Raif Badawi!In Dawkins we trust (talk) 14:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be technical, but the regime is not "satanic". Draconian though, absolutely. Severisth (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In the infobox Badawi's religion is listed as "Islam" but he is in the category "Saudi Arabian atheists". Can there be a clarification please? Shiningroad (talk) 15:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, a clarification is needed. He was brought up on charges of apostasy and blasphemy, but they weren't able to prove apostasy. He has said things such as "Secularism ... is the practical solution to lift countries (including ours) out of the third world and into the first world." and "States which are based on religion confine their people in the circle of faith and fear."[1] If that's not a strong indicator of his position, I don't know what is. But it's still not conclusive either way, so for now I'm going to update it to read "Unknown". Severisth (talk) 22:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Good call. A secularist is not necessarily an atheist. --Rosekelleher (talk) 16:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There's a possibility of the death sentence if apostasy charge goes to retrial. English Wikipedia can create information loops with Western journalists, which could in turn be used as a justification by Saudi authorities to kill him. Best to keep "atheist" off the page. -- Aronzak (talk) 18:09, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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^[1] The Guardian: A look at the writings of Saudi blogger Raif Badawi
According to the Independent, the charge was based on his "Liking" a Christian group on Facebook. It was originally dismissed after he assured the court that he was a Muslim. I guess they changed their minds.
Does anyone else think that section is too long? You have to wade through a lot of longish quotes (especially from Amnesty) to get to the heart of the matter, which is that politicians, journalists, Nobel laureates, clergy, and ordinary people from all over the world are protesting, and it's having an effect on Saudi Arabia's international relations. The text mentions UK, Canada, US, Germany and Sweden, but Google turns up news stories from elsewhere, in Spanish, Italian and other languages, and this page lists events in Vienna, Rome, Milan, and Bern. (Really I wish some better editor would come along and fix it.) --Rosekelleher (talk) 11:42, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This article's style does not correspond with a source that is cited[edit]
It appears to me a fact described in this article is styled in a manner that does not seem to correspond with its source. A lot of this seems to be due to translation errors. I have found many disputes with the references made between the statement and its citation. I have edited the statement to reflect the source's original style using my own words where necessary, but I don't want to go too far just yet. Considering these observations the rest of the article appears to be cluttered with this behavior as well.
--Xavier (talk) 14:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure I understand your comment. The prose style in a Wikipedia article doesn't have to reflect that of the source. It's the substance that must come from a reliable source. The style should be encyclopedic. Rosekelleher (talk) 16:34, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
According to his birthplace and his wife's family "Haidar" (Arabic: حیدر) that is a Shiite name and also according to his denial of being Atheist, He would be a Shia Muslim or at least with Shiite background. P. Pajouhesh (talk) 15:59, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you can say with any certainty what someone's religion is based on his name and birthplace. Many, many people are born into one religion and switch to another, or become atheists, later in life. Rosekelleher (talk) 16:28, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I do agree with you, but in this case I said at least It's definitly clear that he's from a Shiite Background. He may became atheists later but according to his ideas it's impossible that he became Sunni. Besides, His wife's family name for sure is a Shia name. P. Pajouhesh (talk) 18:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Is it referenced somewhere he was born a shia or a sunni ? Or maybe a convert at a moment ? Religious affiliation is not mentionned in his sister Samar Badawi's article. And only the one about their lawyer (and ex-Samar's husband) Waleed Abulkhair say they are siblings... See > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waleed_AbulkhairManuelParis (talk) 06:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Someone created an article on Ensaf Haidar, his wife. I think it is a good idea to keep it even if the translation is very rough, because she is surely notable. The original text of the article was a machine translation of the corresponding Arabic one, but I've added a template to the talk page, so this will not cause copyright issues. I thought that some editors who read this talk page may be interested in improving the article. --Laber□T 20:06, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
