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	Signature (dance group) was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result December 21, 2011 Good article nominee Not listed

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The fact that this has been nominated for CSD isn't suprising but I feel that the article needs to be kept for the following reasons:

1) Signature were runners up in one of the biggest competitions in the UK.

2) Damon Scott, runner up in last years competition also has a page.

3) It is likely that this group will be getting more famous as the weeks go by.

4) They are pretty major. You type Signature inon Google News at the moment and one of the first links will be to their act on Britain's Got Talent

I think the article should be kept, so that people can expand the article to improve it and focus on their fame as opposed to thei life before fame as such. Thenthornthing (talk) 12:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this should be reinstated in it's own right, it's insane to delete it when you have some others (who are less famous now and during their time on BGT) from the show who have their own pages. If you're gonna delete this, most of the others should go too. Sky83 (talk) 15:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

what year? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.208.60 (talk) 20:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Signature (dance group)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 20:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Claiming this one as mine. I'd love to see some more recognised content from BGT; so far as I know, mine (Talbot, Johnston, Smith and their respective albums) are the only ones. Review to come soon. J Milburn (talk) 20:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• "Their notable style of dance is British Bhangra and they frequently base their performances around Michael Jackson songs" Not well phrased. Also, is "British Bhangra" a thing?
• Why the ref in the lead? This is not particularly contentious information, and the lead should just summarise what is already further down the article.
• The caption of the main picture needs to identify which is which
• I don't really see why details about their work and their contributions to performances belong in an "early life" section. Both things are important, but they need to be in the right place. A section detailing their dance style as a whole would be great, but, again, their day-jobs wouldn't belong there. As this section concerns the early days of the duo, a title somthing like "formation and early work" would be great.
• Why did they choose the name "Signature"?
• What was the extent of Mirza's activities with these various celebrities?
• What did the two do as Signature prior to BGT? Anything?
• "On Britain's Got Talent in their audition in London," Don't jump straight into it- "Signature auditioned for x series of the ITV1 talent show Britain's Got Talent in 200X." Also include why they decided to audition, if you know.
• "Mirza said: "I don't think the judges will have ever seen an act like mine before...in this act there will be a lot of moon walking, but there is a twist, and if they weren't Michael Jackson fans before they may even turn into one."" Unreferenced quote
• The audition section doesn't feel that well organised. I'd lose "They combined the Michael Jackson lyrics and style of dancing with traditional bhangra style music and dancing in a comedy dance act", but it would be worth mentioning the comedy; probably after an explanation of the performance
• "After their audition, Signature became one of the favourites to win, due to their popular crossover-style of dancing and mixing Bhangra with Michael Jackson and their ever growing "element of surprise".[citation needed]"
• "In the first semi-final on 26 May they performed to "Thriller", winning the public vote and so went through to the final.[10]" Surely, more to say than this? What did the act consist of? How did people (judges, public, bookies) react? And so on. After such heavy discussion of the audition, it feels incomplete to have so little here
• "Before the final show, Simon Cowell said that he believed that Signature were one of five acts who could win the show.[11] In the final they again performed to "Nachna Onda Nei" and were announced as finishing in the top three alongside street dancer, George Sampson and boy soprano, Andrew Johnston. Sampson won the show with Signature finishing as runners-up." Again, too little, and unreferenced
• "Signature were given the "official stamp of approval by Michael Jackson himself"," What does this mean?
• "Following the end of the second series of Britain's Got Talent, Signature were given the "official stamp of approval by Michael Jackson himself", while members of the Jackson family have become their fans and got in touch with Signature soon after the show ended." Tenses are all over the place
• "In June 2008, Signature were "offered a six-figure deal to be the face of Virgin Media" for its forthcoming "Bollywood on Demand" TV service. The managing director of marketing at Virgin Media, James Kydd, has commented, "Getting Signature on-board could be the perfect way for new audiences to find out more about Bollywood."[13]" Did they take it? What did they do?
• The "After Britain's Got Talent" section just feels like a list of mentions; While the information is all good, it's not formatted in a way suitable for a good article candidate.
• The date format in the references is inconsistent- either all "xxxx-xx-xx" or all "x of month xxxx"- I'd recommend the latter
• Either put the locations for all newspaper publications, or for none of them. I'd recommend none.
• Either cite authors as "John Smith" or "Smith, John"- I'd recommend the latter.
• Newspaper names need to be italicised. Also, link where possible (Daily Mail, news.com.au, etc)
• YouTube is not a reliable source, and linking to it often creates copyright problems (it does in these cases)
• Avoid blogs as sources. Digital Spy isn't terrible, but Unreality TV is questionable. Also, you claim the article is written by Tom Bryant; it isn't.
• "at the Spice Times Awards 2010 as the main act" The source doesn't say that
• Categories need sorting- I'd recommend losing the people cats (birth, living people, Pakistani descent) but adding some group cats- Category:Duos, Category:Performing groups established in 2001.
• The lead seems a little short; however, I'd recommend expanding the article before expanding the lead.

I'm afraid that, at this time, the article is a long way from ready for GA status; it needs expansion and some reformatting, and the sources need switching around a good bit. I am placing the article on hold for now to see if you can work with my suggestions, but I fear that fixing up these issues may take some time, and closing the review and renominating at a later date would be a better option. Good luck- I'm watching this page, so I'll try to get back to you if you have any questions. J Milburn (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's been nearly a week, the normal time for which an article is put on hold, and there has been absolutely no progress, so I am going to close this review at this time. I hope you're able to take some of the comments on board to improve the article; I urge you to nominate it again once you're done. J Milburn (talk) 00:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]