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There is a glaring in this article: "the tennis court started in the 1990s and ended in the 1500s?" Furthermore, this is not a discussion of the tennis court, but of the "Tennis Court Oath" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.253.117.19 (talk) 20:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

can any body but the sidebar thing from storming of the bastille onto this article and add Tennis Court Oath under National Assembly? i would but i dont know how

Re: The Tennis Court Oath (serment du jeu de paume) was a pledge signed by 577 members of France's Third Estate on June 20, 1789. ....

this was an important factor in the coming of the french revolution the members swore that they wouldn't disband until Louis XVI had granted a constitution for the people of france.

Im not sure but i think the oath was written by Abbe Sieyes?Imbored24 06:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Changed the wording from leave to disband Saying that they would not leave until they had written a constitution gives the impression that it was written all in one night, This is not true to took along to write a constrictions for France Also and interesting fact; the tennis court is speculated to having been in actuality a handball court

More likely it's a 'Real Tennis' court judging by the photo. You can see the galleries on the left. Tigerman2005 (talk) 03:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So far so Good but you have no dates and no sources. If there are no objections I will add dates using information from A history of western society sixth edition by Mckay, Hill and Buckler. If someone could please put that in bibliography format. Im missing the first hundred pages in my book. Miles32 06:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well obviously this article over the past few days has been totally vandalized and stripped of its information. Somebody tried to rewrite the entire, and what used to be complex and informative article quickly as nobody seems to have a saved copy of the article. In need of some Wiki admins. Mehicdino 23:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mehicdino! I'm not sure whether you're 67.85.230.20 (talk • contribs), who edited the article to "remove immature/incorrect text". However, can either one of you be more specific with what is inaccurate? There was some vandalism in the previous weeks, which I had reverted already (all revisions of the page are stored automatically, and you can access them by clicking on the "history" tab above and clicking on the date and time of the revision). Most everything in the article looks correct. Granted, I'm not an expert on this subject, but given that the revision only removed minimal details, which seem correct, and also removed many of the wikilinks, I've gone ahead and reverted back to the previous version for now. Can you clarify on what is incorrect? Thanks! Flcelloguy (Anote?) 03:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism should never require a rewrite, as it's very easy to revert to a previous version. Croctotheface 04:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am not the IP you state I could be because it does not match mine. I was just saying a few days ago somebody actually put much effort into vandalizing this article to a pile of rubbish. Mehicdino 23:39, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I'm just making sure that there is nothing that is obviously inaccurate presently; I hope I took care of all the vandalism with the revert. Thanks! Flcelloguy (Anote?) 23:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This still needs rewriting; what is this?!: "The Tennis Coart started in the late 1990's and ended in the early 1500's. It resulted in the parilization of the Queen of Scottland. It occured in Witchitah Maine." Please correct. Itahist 17:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The vandalism has already been removed; thanks for letting us know. Flcelloguy (Anote?) 03:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found a better picture at this link:

[1]http://www.loyno.edu/~seduffy/tennis_court_oath.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ihafez (talk • contribs) 01:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I'm going to refrain from uploading that picture for now. I believe, if my recollection is correct, that the current image is a copy of the actual sketch, and that the colored version was done later by another artist. While I can see the benefits of uploading the color one, I don't see a pressing need to do so, and am leaning toward the original, uncolored sketch for inclusion in this article. Thanks! Flcelloguy (Anote?) 03:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Does anyone mind clarfieing who the deputies were? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.231.191 (talk) 04:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused by the two paragraphs "The National Assembly, considering that it...//...confirm this unwavering resolution with his signature". Is this the oath? Where does the text come from? Who wrote it? What was the original French? I'm particularly curious because this reference uses the word "kingdom" (which surprised me) and this one uses "realm". Looking at the French Wikipedia article, it looks the "oath" (serment) is a speech by a Mr Bailly, and the sentence about never separating and meeting wherever necessary is just one fragment of it. Could someone make all this clear? Stevage 02:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My edit saying that the storming of the Bastille was before this event was clearly based on an underlying POV supporting revolutionary spontaneity. In such cases the revelation of asserting a counterfactual should undermine that POV. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 09:29, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What we have here is a Real or Royal Tennis court I believe. The picture of the scene in the article would certainly suggest it was. PBS seem to agree http://www.pbs.org/marieantoinette/life/tennis.html I realise the article is about the event but it is probably good to add this information. To describe it as a tennis court is perhaps a bit misleading to the casual reader. Tigerman2005 (talk) 03:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Jeu de paume" means "Game with the palm (of the hand)" The closest you get is i guess tennis, but without rackets. Using the palm instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.81.18.30 (talk) 03:06, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Tennis court" is indeed a mis-translation and there is no excuse for it, because there is a good translation: "Fives", which has a Wikipedia lemma ^[1]. Peterk2 (talk) 11:14, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's a claim in the article that 'the abolition of feudality (sic) ... had occurred in England some 129 years previously when Charles II was restored to the throne'. Was feudalism ever abolished hook, line and sinker - lock, stock and barrel, in England and if so, when? Is there a reliable source for this claim? Norvo (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]