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This article is substantially duplicated by a piece in an external publication. Please do not flag this article as a copyright violation of the following source: Tower Bridge, The Definitive Guide to London, 2010

In the History > Opening section it states: It is the only one of the Trust's bridges not to connect the City of London to the Southwark bank, the northern landfall being in Tower Hamlets. However, in the "Tower Bridge today" section, in the caption to the first picture it states: The bridge connects The Borough (Southwark, south of the river, left of picture) to the heart of the City of London. Clearly both statements can't be true, but I'm afraid I don't know London well enough to know which (if either) is correct. Hoping someone with more knowledge can help. A Long September (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the picture caption may be a case of poetic licence. Removing 'heart of' makes it factually correct. (I don't think mentioning Tower Hamlets here helps. It does connect to the City, albeit 'via Tower Hamlets'!)

In the opening section, we might need a qualifier about the bridge not being within the geographic limits of the City... ? -- EdJogg (talk) 17:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, although I have not changed the earlier text -- EdJogg (talk) 13:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do think mentioning Tower Hamlets is important. If Tower Bridge is connected to The City of London by the sole virtue of the city neighbouring Tower Hamlets, then you could also argue that the bridge connects to Hackney. Nzseries1 (talk) 16:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ihave modified the text, and I think it addresses your concerns. The earlier text also mentions Tower Hamlets. The City is more significant than Hackney since the bridge is owned by the City... -- EdJogg (talk) 18:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article is completely silent about access to the walkways (now closed, used only for exhibits?). Are there elevators? Or stairs only? Stair count? What is current pedestrian route? Right straight across same as vehicles? When the bridge is open, can pedestrians still cross by going over the upper route? I'm surprised at the silence given to the pedestrian aspect. 63.194.45.199 (talk) 18:15, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are pedestrian walkways on both sides of the bridge, at road level. These walkways are closed when the bridge opens for shipping. The upper walkways can be accessed via lifts or steps. The upper walkways are not accessible to pedestrians - they are used only by the 'Tower Bridge Experience' tourist, paying exhibition. The inaccessibility of the upper walkways to pedestrian traffic is a source of much inconvenience, particularly to commuters. Stxmld (talk) 20:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go; they're clearly out of copyright: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertypicturegalleries/8923147/Photographs-of-Tower-Bridge-being-constructed-are-found-in-a-skip.html Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:38, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tower Bridge does not connect with 'The Borough' on the south side of the Thames (that's London Bridge) it connects to Bermondsey, a different part of the London Borough of Southwark.

90.200.226.102 (talk) 17:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC) freddie 90.200.226.102 (talk) 17:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There reads: "The bridge's present colour scheme dates from 1977, when it was painted red, white and blue for the Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee." So, where is the red? I can see white and blue but not red. 85.217.36.130 (talk) 03:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't the Tower Bridge also featured as a Secret Service Headquarter in a James Bond movie (or maybe a similar movie)? -- megA (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a definitive list of the people killed during the construction of Tower Bridge? So far I can find

John Church 1887

William Carnegie 1893

Edward Burns 1894

The Evening Telegraph says there were ten fatalities. jmb (talk) 14:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No information about the replica in Suzhou?

This collection includes even the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Alexandre III Bridge and, of course, the Tower Bridge from London.

http://www.weirdasianews.com/2012/07/24/chinas-builds-tower-bridge/ http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/07/05/tower-bridge-replica-china/ http://www.nadernazemi.org/2012/07/tower-bridge-in-china-suzhou-builds-its.html#!/2012/07/tower-bridge-in-china-suzhou-builds-its.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.102.130 (talk) 22:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Was the bridge powered by steam pumps right from the start? I remember being told that it was originally connected to the hydraulic mains and the steam engines were installed later, when the mains closed down? --Roly (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The London Hydraulic Main was still serving the Bridge when we installed the first half of the replacement machinery in the 1970s 20:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeoffreyBH (talk • contribs)

The date in the text was altered from 1886 to 1887 but no authority has been cited, — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeoffreyBH (talk • contribs) 20:55, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the incidents section: "At the time, the building contractor Taylor Woodrow Construction Ltd. was in the midst of constructing a new office tower known as "K2""

This doesn't seem relevant to the closure of the bridge.. Philipwhiuk (talk) 16:56, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've always assumed Tower Bridge to be named after the two towers at either end of the bridge. What evidence is there that it was actually named after the Tower of London? — Smjg (talk) 01:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most bridges in London are named after the area they are in, but a fair question. I can't find a definitive source, but a look round the area also yields "Tower Hill", "Tower Gateway" and "Tower Hamlets" for e.g. Paulbrock (talk) 13:47, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know about those locations in the vicinity. But this doesn't really tell us what was named after what.... — Smjg (talk) 23:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

https://londonist.com/2015/01/how-londons-thames-bridges-got-their-names Andy Dingley (talk) 23:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the best thing to be said for this is the caption 'Time lapse video of Tower Bridge', because that is just what it is. It isn't a time lapse video of Tower Bridge doing anything interesting (like opening), but just of it continuing to exist. Nice time lapse of the clouds going by, admittedly, but that isn't very relevant to this article. Am I missing something?. Does this video actually add anything useful to the story this article tells that isn't already told by all the still pictures?. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 14:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, gone. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Here is an earlier 1899 construction photo. If anyone is interested, then you might want to follow up to determine if the B&W version isn't copyrighted for use on Wikipedia. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 16:51, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• http://i.imgur.com/Q3xXQz1.jpg (colorized)
• http://i.imgur.com/ZZxQJuB.jpg (b&w)
• https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/4syrh3/tower_bridge_under_construction_london_1889/d5d7493

An editor has added [1][2][3] a gallery repeatedly, despite it being promptly removed by other editors. Should we keep it?

I find galleries to be a poor way of using images and rarely appropriate. They show images that are too small and crowded to be a useful use of such images; if you want to see what's there, show the image, don't hide it. This gallery is also a poorly chosen set of images, with half of them unrelated to the others and simply too small to make out. The gallery is justified on the basis of being a sequence of the bridge opening (4 images, plus a mismatched one that is important to show the final position, but taken from another sequence) - this might be justified as a gallery, but only if the images were big enough to see.

Overall, I just don't see this article as needing a great many images - Tower Bridge is iconic, but doesn't take many images to show it. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:59, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Currently, mentions of tonnes are converted to short tons but mentions of tons, presumably long tons, are not converted at all. Given that long and short tons and tonnes are all fairly similar, I don't know if changing over 70,000 tons of concretetoover 70,000 long tons (71,000 t; 78,000 short tons) would add much but the current approach does seem inconsistent. Cavrdg (talk) 13:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the "street signage" photograph in the article in clearly for London Bridge. I don't know what should be done, remove the photo or find an correct one, but obviously, this makes little sense, especially as the article claims how well advised it is earlier

Because of this, Tower Bridge is sometimes confused with London Bridge

Anyway, Shadowssettle_(talk) 16:24, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• The street sign in the article would appear to be this one on Googlw Maps which as can be seen was taken on a completely different bridge .... so I'd support removal .... I can't see a reason for the sign being here ? .... –Davey2010^Talk 17:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The sign "LONDON BRIDGE" quite clearly must have been photographed on London Bridge, the next crossing upstream. It is a common mistake. Geoffrey BH 17:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeoffreyBH (talk • contribs)

•  Done - Removed - If there is an explanation as why the London Bridge signage is in this article I'd be happy to hear and would be happy to revert. –Davey2010^Talk 19:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there no mention of the bascule operation in the lead? Jprw (talk) 11:37, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've dropped a bit in. The lead was out of sync with the body, with claims in the former not in the latter. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:55, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article states that Tower Bridge is sometimes mistaken for London Bridge although this is not attributed to any source. Should the article continue to propagate a view that some people that presumably don't know anything about Tower Bridge mistake it for another bridge that, presumably, they also don't know anything about? It would seem this apparent mistaking of Tower Bridge for another bridge should be removed? PSCMol (talk) 11:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]