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Not too sure on how wiki really works yet, but a link to the pre-enrolment site could be a good thing (https://twicprogram.tsa.dhs.gov/TWICWebApp/). All that is required by 25 September is pre-enrolment, the temporary pre-enrolment receipt is supposed to be good enough until the card is delivered. KubalaC (talk) 18:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pesco is not unbiased his information clearly shows he works for the government. He benefits when the information is censored. Wikipedia does not censor
An unaffiliated third party is requested to revert the deletions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.230.148 (talk) 06:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
-- I do not know whether the information will improve wikipedia or not but I tend to err on the side of including more information rather than casually deleting it, who is going to make the judgement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.230.148 (talk) 06:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
An editor deleted information from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_documents_in_the_United_States .
Claiming
-"controversial" is POV, -Removed info belongs in the article about the card, not in this article.
The same editor deleted all critical information in this article as well
-Not convincing that this is a "controversy"; it could be seen as the intent of the law. -While factual, not controversial. -It wasn't secretive, and it was announced. See the references, including the "final rule" announcement.
Reading the final ruling there is no notification of why a particular individual is guilty of being a security threat. People are simply denied jobs by an unlected TSA administrator without due process of law or a jury of their peers to determine both fact and law. There was no public comment on the process for selecting individuals who are deemed security threats. This is controversial.
The methods the TSA uses to determine security threats are not definitively published in the final ruling and therefore are not open to public comment and are indeed secret.
Furthermore Federal Register Vol 72 No 16 Pg 3501 acknowledges concerns from congress and significant public comment that the security threat determinations are overly broad, this should be included as it is by definition, controversy.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.230.148 (talk) 06:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Federal Register Vol 72 No 16 Pg 3501 states: ...or 2) the applicant was incarcerated for that crime and was released from incarceration within five years of the date of application... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.230.148 (talk) 07:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Businesses are no longer able to employ the best man and do their own background checks. If a person has been incarcerated on suspicion of a crime (remember innocent until proven guilty) their employer decides whether or not to terminate them, not the government. The [chilling effect] is palpable, if one is critical of the government, then at any time that individual may be incarcerated for no reason, and as a result they lose their job.
Bad check writing, years ago, should not end a mans career and put his wife, and three daughters in the poor house after 10 years of driving a truck for the same company, this is one example of many. That is controversial.
1 in 50 Louisiana Residents already have this card, an astonishing figure likely to promote controversy if known publicly.
This informations may be found by Google searching all nongovernment TWIC sites beside Wikipedia that condemn its issue as privacy invasion, overstepping the bounds of the federal government enumerated in the constitution, the use as a means of retribution to those critical of the government by firing them from a jobsite, a stepping block for the REAL ID Act being resisted by 19 state governments or the introduction of a totalitarian surveillance and police state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.230.148 (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When I posted this information I did not expect it to stay for long, but this is ridiculous a government monitor to delete all critical information. Wikipedia has higher standards than this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6947532.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.230.148 (talk) 07:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To the editor referring to my edits (from ip address starting with "66"): Welcome to Wikipedia. I will post a personal message to your talk page, which you can view by clicking here. I will keep my comments here focused on your edits and why I removed them. To start off, eveything I'm commenting about was in the sectioned labelled "controversy".
"Barbara Minton says the Transportation Worker Identification Credential is a step toward implementing the Real ID Act[3]" How is this controversial? While it could be moved to another section, it doesn't fit in "controversy".
"More than 1 in 50 Louisiana Residents have the TWIC Biometric Government Worker ID Card.[4]" Again, how is this controversial?
"Many individuals lost their job due to the TSA background check of all workers for writing bad checks, prior drug use, incarcerations, warrants, prior arrests, or other secret methods unelected TSA administrators have arbitrarily decided without public notice or comment.[5]" Ok, now we can discuss some issues. When you add information to Wikipedia, you need to support your comments with references to reliable sources. You did add a reference, but it doesn't support your comments at all. The closest thing the article says is this:
“ | He says Conoco Phillips let him go for not having a TWIC card. He filled out the application and is waiting to hear something back, but he says things are not looking so good for him. To get a TWIC card, there's a background check. Atkins' past includes a felony conviction. "The federal government doesn't know each person one-on-one," he said. "They're going on what happened in his past. If it happened five years ago, this man might be a better man." | ” |
It appears you are newer to Wikipedia. I appreciate your viewpoint, and there is certainly a place for the kind of information you are trying to add to this article as it represents a view I know others share. What we have to figure out is how to add it in a way that is neutral, verifiable, and consistant with Wikipedia's Manual of Style. Thank you. ~PescoSo say•we all 00:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am adding a "History" section with cites, references, that will include laws that led to the TWIC, and a section on drivers and some controversy. "If" there are missing references or concerns I would appreciate a tag so I can address any issues. Assuming good faith I offer every opportunity for corrections before deletion. I simply wish to try to be fair on both sides and show another side to escape bias. This is somewhat hard with a limited amount of information but I will as best I can. Otr500 (talk) 14:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This business? Organization?'s website http://secureworker.com states: Public agencies, private corporations, labor organizations and contractors strategically partner in SWAC to mitigate risk, develop the SWAC Trusted Community, and cooperatively improve regional and national security. The largest transportation agencies in the New York metro area including the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PANYNJ), Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA), and New Jersey Transit (NJT) have adopted SWAC as the regional standard for access control to sensitive facilities, critical infrastructures, and key national resources. So that could use some inclusion. I couldn't find any news items on this in search or I'd start an article. CarolMooreDC (talk) 03:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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