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The second four-note-sequence of the MIDI file is wrong. It should be C D E C (but is C E D C). The hour chime is F but should be E (because Big Ben is also in E)... Jordbaer 19:43, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The music example should of course be written in 3/4 time (not 4/4, though the note values are correct)! Anyone have a version where the barring is correct? 195.217.52.130 14:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article states they're in E, which is correct, but the MIDI file plays in another key. It ought to be consistent, or have an explanation as to why it is not. 77.99.184.41 (talk) 11:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It would be interesting to know if there's any affinity with the traditional chant of the Dies Irae. JKeck (talk) 18:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As a musician I have a problem with your 3/4 metrum. When I hear the audiofile of the Westminster chimes, I can hear a sort of 5/4 metrum, but not a single waltzlike accent. What do you mean?
Best greetings from Germany
--Metzner (talk) 00:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Several discrepancies seem to exist here... May need clearing.
The Westminster Quarter bells are (as of 10/07/2009) (according to Parliament-Big Ben Official Site):
As for time signature... well there are plenty of actual recordings of the chimes, Big Ben has a recording, as does BBC - Big Ben Archive and the Parliament site linked above. -- J.P.Lon (talk) 19:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is definetely a discrepancy between the recording and the written music. The first line of the last quarter is different! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.29.184 (talk) 13:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Chimes are the little musical tunes played on the quarter hour. Strike is the bong that counts the hour. This article had "strike" a couple of times when "chime" was intended. JackOL31 (talk) 04:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You call the melody fragments "pernutations", but the 3rd one is not a permutation, since it contains twice the e4, but lacks the b3. (added by Thierry Pauwels, 2011-03-09) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.87.217.68 (talk) 21:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm listening to the soundtrack from the (2009) Sherlock Holmes film, and just picked up the Westminster Quarters running through certain parts of the music (appropriately, since part of the film involves a plot set to go off in Parliament at a certain time, as shown on the clock tower). Can't find anything explicitly referencing this to make it citable in the article, though. Help? Ubernostrum (talk) 07:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"The melody consists of five different permutations of four pitches in the key of E major. The pitches are B3, E4, F♯4 and G♯4." Not quite: The one that is labelled (3) isn't a permutation; a note is repeated. jftsang 01:07, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure that Big Ben is an E? I hear it as down a fifth from the tonic, which would make it an A. --vckeating (talk) 14:31, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The chime melody itself sounds more like F Major to me. Cbsteffen (talk) 18:54, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If it is heard in 5 4 time, why not have it that way in this article. I have always heard it as 2/4 with a pause on the fourth note. It has Never sounded like triple time to me. It is Duple: One two /One two,(wait....) One two /One two, wait....) etc..... It does not sound like Triple time: One two three /Four ( wait wait ) One two three /Four (wait wait) ---- If you count it out and get my meaning. It is Not is triple time. It is in Duple time. Ding dong, Ding dong..... etc, ..... not Ding dong ding/Dong..................
So, yes.... change the staff notation, since it is wrong. It isn't correct. The fourth note is not three beats anyway, so it is wrong. It is only 2 beats. And that can be justified as a single beat with a fermata/pause. It is most certainly NOT a three beat note. So the Westmisnter chimes tune is not and never was a tune in three/four time.
208.72.123.224 (talk) 01:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
-rob
208.72.123.224 (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It says, "Each of New York City Subway's rolling stock since the R44 model features the first two notes of the chimes as a warning to the passengers that the doors are closing.", but this seems absurd. Two notes only form an interval, which is not enough to imply a connection to another tune. Even the exact interval, in the correct key, with identical timing, is still not enough to imply a strong correlation. The linked reference mentions that a two-tone signal is sounded, but does not associate that signal with any preexisting melody. Can anyone verify that the two-tone signal was inspired by the Westminster Quarters? -- Hypoon (talk) 19:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As I was researching for clock chime I happened across a few relevant sources for this article that I don't have time to incorporate right now. But I wanted to leave them here for others (and for myself!) who might be working on this article in the future.
--Vivisel (talk) 19:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The rather convoluted description was doing my head in. I have tried to simplify and clarify what was actually being said. Lost quite a few words to say the same thing too. If it is still unclear, make a not here or do better. Exnihil (talk) 16:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC) This started out as a minor job but took on a life of its own. Done now. Exnihil (talk) 10:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
>Just before sunset, the half-hour chime of Westminster Quarters plays, except slightly differently, with >the notes G♯4, C5, A♯4, D♯5, C5, G♯4, A♯4, D♯4.
Huh? That would mean there are other bells which play other notes in the Tower (as well as the five listed near the top of the article) just for one time of the day. I find this unlikely. 80.43.250.79 (talk) 23:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
