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I would like to try to insert a partial passenger list, with the help of the page editors. I'm somewhat amazed to discover that there are no books written on the White Ship, which had such a dramatic effect on English and French history. So this Wikipedia article really is it. I'm a librarian, so I'll be happy to source the names.
This is one list I've found (not sourced yet, or corrected):
William Adelin, heir to the English throne
his half-brother Richard FitzRoy of Lincoln
his half-sister Matilda FitzHenry, Countess of Perche (sometimes called Marie de Mortagne)
Richard d'Avranches, second Earl of Chester
his brother Otheur or Othuel d'Avranches, governor of the King's sons
the Countess of Chester, Mathilda or Lucia-Mahaut of Blois, the King's neice
Geoffrey Ridel, Royal Justice, Son-in-law of Hugh, Earl of Chester
William Bigod, Steward of the household of King Henry
Ivo II de Grandmesnil
William Grandmesnil (a brother of Ivo II de Grandmesnil)
William of Rhuddlan (son of Robert)
Hugh of Moulins
Walter of Everci
Geoffrey, archdeacon of Hereford
Thomas FitzStephen FitzAirard (captain)
Geoffrey de l'Aigle
Engenulf de l'Aigle
Ralph le Roux, Lord of Pont Echanfre (many believe him to be an illegitimate son of Robert de Lacy)
Gilbert de l'Aigle, Vicomte of Exmes
Dietrich (Theodoric), the nephew of the German emperor (probably a son of Henry V.'s sister Agnes by Frederic Duke of Suabia)
Gisulf, the King's secretary
William - Son of the Bishop of Coutances
Richard Anskill - Son and heir of a Berkshire landowner
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And while Mason does not categorically state the sinking took place on 25th he makes it clear that it happened no earlier than the 25th:
but when Henry embarked for England with his son from Barfleur on 25 November 1120, all the king's achievements were overthrown by one of the greatest and most frequently recounted personal tragedies of English history. Henry sailed first, having turned down the offer of a new ship—the White Ship—from Thomas Fitzstephen; the Ætheling and his retinue (reminiscent of the youthful entourage once enjoyed by his uncle Robert Curthose) followed in the new vessel.
So I think that as Wikipedia is a follower and not a place for publishing original research, if the date of the sinking is to be changed it must be done by citing 21st century reliable secondary sources. -- PBS (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How reliable can the sources for details of the be?[edit]
So, the passage
William Adelin got into a small boat and could have escaped but turned back to try to rescue his half-sister, Matilda, when he heard her cries for help. His boat was swamped by others trying to save themselves, and William drowned along with them
How is this known? There was only one survivor and he was pretty busy clinging to a rock. And it was night. That's not even counting the details like the voice was the guy's half sister. Theres's more, like the captain drowning himself etc. I can't read the sources, but my presumption is that they can't be reliable for these facts.
We ought to say "according to legend, first written down in year X, such and such happened..." or something. Unless I'm missing something. Herostratus (talk) 02:27, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]