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1.1  Lead  





1.2  Early life and education  





1.3  Career  





1.4  Later life and death  





1.5  References  







2 Inconsistencies in article compared to the train ferry article  
2 comments  




3 Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment  
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Talk:William L. Mercereau




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Former good articleWilliam L. Mercereau was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 17, 2020Good article nomineeListed
February 26, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know

Afact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 27, 2017.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that William L. Mercereau, Superintendent of Steamships for the Pere Marquette Railway, was responsible for building up what was at the time the world's largest carferry fleet?
Current status: Delisted good article


GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:William L. Mercereau/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 14:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Going to review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 14:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a(prose): b(MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a(reference section): b(citations to reliable sources): c(OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a(major aspects): b(focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a(images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b(appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

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Early life and education

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Career

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Am putting the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 19:00, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistencies in article compared to the train ferry article

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Looking at Train ferry it mentions that An early train ferry was established as early as 1833 and The first modern train ferry was Leviathan, built in 1849. plus Although others had had similar ideas, it was Bouch who first put them into effect.

This article says Mercereau developed the technology of loading a complete railroad car full of freight directly onto ships as one unit. and in the 1890s, technology was introducing the idea of just loading the complete railroad freight car onto the ship instead of transferring its contents to ship holding tanks. The package steamships with bulk holding tanks had carried freight this way since 1882, but this antiquated technology became obsolete. The railroad car ferry then came about, and the first ones were wooden craft.

Reference 3 has the title Idea Of Carferries Got Its Start Here in 1897 which, again doesn't match the Train ferry pages. The date that they refer to is 1897 which is when the first steel ferry was entered into service which is probably what they are referring to which makes me concerned about using it for this article. Gusfriend (talk) 09:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • In the article I wrote, He was also known as the 'father of the railroad on the water' because he brought to fruition the idea of loading the complete railroad car onto cross-lake ferries for transportation as a complete loaded freight car unit. using Reference 12. Reference 3 is used for Mercereau's biography information. I don't see an issue with either of these references.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:32, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

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This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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