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I created this navigation box because that is what I do. I am not a baseball expert. Please add/change/delete as appropriate.--Old Hoss 20:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:HistBaseball nav → Template:Infobox History of baseball Template:History of baseball –

• Ortemplate:Sidebar History of baseball?
• Less cryptic name, follows suggestion in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)#Consistency between infoboxes. -- 64.85.221.211 (talk) 08:22, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment it's a sidebar navigator, not an infobox, shouldn't that be template:Sidebar History of baseball ? (and a similar footer would be template:Footer History of baseball were there one) Or template:Navbox History of baseball ... 70.24.247.61 (talk) 08:38, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Updated request accordingly. Thx. --64.85.221.211 (talk) 09:12, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • When this move request was transferred to the talk page from WP:RM, my move request was inadvertently altered; the request is to move the template to Template:History of baseball. I have struck the improper request above and corrected it. (I am the same person as 64.85.221.211 -- dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) --64.85.221.159 (talk) 01:41, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Am I alone in thinking that the related games section devotes too much space to listing every variant of cricket? The games are only distantly related, and most of the variants were developed long after Baseball and cricket diverged almost 200 years ago, so really aren't part of the history of baseball. It seems to me that the chances of someone wanting to go directly to any particular cricket variant from a baseball-related article are pretty slim, and that all it does is bloat the template, reducing its usability for navigation, it's actual purpose. I'm going to trim that list down. oknazevad (talk) 05:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Oknazevad, why not place cricket higher in the Related Sports section? It's bigger than all the other related sports combined, and it seems to me readers will get a lot of value out of knowing that a major world sport exists that is similar to baseball (especially since many in the baseball world, such as Americans, aren't aware of cricket). Elevating cricket wouldn't significantly diminish readers' abilities to find sports more related to baseball on that list either, since it need only take up the third spot. GreekApple123 (talk) 21:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's not that closely related. Games like softball, tee ball, wiffle ball, and the various simplified playground games are directly derived from it, while founders (both British and Irish versions) and British baseball are direct sibling games, being other regional takes on the more primitive sport, much as also existed in regions of the US before they were unified into standardized baseball. Cricket is more a distant cousin. And Americans are aware of cricket, even if they don't follow it. But what they're most aware about it is that it's not really that similar. :Plus, it's really also not as widespread in popularity as some think. Its popularity is mostly limited to former British colonies, though notably many of those are some very heavily populated countries and cricket is very popular in those countries: there is a reason the Indian Premier League is a top-ten league worldwide in annual attendance across all sports. But it has almost no presence outside the countries where it's popular. So it gives it undue weight for it to pe at the top of the list when there's more closely related games that actually tie into the history of baseball, the topic of the navbox. oknazevad (talk) 22:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]