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Does it even matter?

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Does it even matter, and is even there a necessity to divide all of the events into 2 parts (which are Pre-2000 and Post-2000)? Kiddie Techie (talk) 06:28, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It has now divided into centuries, due to the overwhelming numbers of articles. Chongkian (talk) 07:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed |title = [[Crowd collapses and crushes|Human stampedes and crushes]] to |title = [[Crowd collapses and crushes]] because there is no good reason for the article title to be piped to the tabloid click-bait term. Real stampedes by humans are very rare: the huge majority of tragedies in the long list article were crowd crushes, not stampedes, so WP:UNDUE says that we should not unduly feature this term. The scientific consensus is this (copied from Crowd collapses and crushes):
The term stampede is usually used of animals that are fleeing a threat. Stampede events that involve humans are extremely rare and are unlikely to be fatal.^[1] According to Keith Still, professor of crowd science at Manchester Metropolitan University, "If you look at the analysis, I’ve not seen any instances of the cause of mass fatalities being a stampede. People don’t die because they panic. They panic because they are dying".^[1] Paul Torrens, a professor at the Center for Geospatial Information Science at the University of Maryland, remarks that "the idea of the hysterical mass is a myth".^[1] and

Stampede is not only an incorrect term, it is a loaded word as it apportions blame to the victims for behaving in an irrational, self-destructive, unthinking and uncaring manner, it’s pure ignorance, and laziness … It gives the impression that it was a mindless crowd only caring about themselves, and they were prepared to crush people.

In virtually all these situations this is not the case, and it is usually the authorities to blame for poor planning, poor design, poor control, poor policing and mismanagement.

The truth is that people are only directly crushed by others who have no choice in the matter, and the people who can choose don’t know what is going on because they’re too far away from the epicentre.

— Edwin Galea, professor of fire safety engineering at the University of Greenwich, England^[2]

I've been bold and just done it, indeed it should have been done a long time ago. But if anyone disagrees, please discuss. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]