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1 The main writing errors I notice here  





2 Worst articles I've seen on Wikipedia  





3 The TRUTH about Huggle and Twinkle  





4 How to win an argument on a Wikipedia talk page  





5 A problem with wikis generally  














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Hi! I'm a PRETTY BIG DEAL over on Wiktionary.

My Wikipedia contributions are basically minor grammar fixes. I also sometimes fix facts, but get reverted by small children.

I am not a fan of Wikipedia as an institution, with its stifling bureaucracy and myriad conflicting guidelines, but I do think it is a really useful and interesting resource, and I spend a lot of time reading articles about anything. (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Wikipedia:Unusual articles.)

The main writing errors I notice here

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Worst articles I've seen on Wikipedia

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The TRUTH about Huggle and Twinkle

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Ever made a perfectly good edit to Marillion while not logged in, and some 13-year-old moron whose daddy probably wasn't even alive yet reverts it, without knowing anything about the topic, because "hee hee I've got the tools"? Right! That's Twinkle, or Huggle. This satirical article explains it quite well (until someone changes it due to OH NO OFFENSIVENESS): Wikipedia:Edits Per Day

How to win an argument on a Wikipedia talk page

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  1. Be very, very familiar with all the non-policy hints like WP:BEANS
  2. Make friends with everyone else who is familiar with these things
  3. Learn them inside-out so that you know the ones for both sides. It's like proverbs. For example: "a stitch in time saves nine" (you should have done it earlier) is the opposite of "don't count your chickens until they're hatched" (you should wait until later)
  4. When there is an argument, choose the appropriate non-policy
  5. If your opponent is wise enough to choose the opposing non-policy, remind them that these are not policies
  6. Wait for your 50 friends from earlier to turn up
  7. Make the smug face 😏

A problem with wikis generally

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There's a sort of entropy factor involved. Suppose that I fix some common error that most people incorrectly disbelieve (imagine some kind of Snopes thing, or a piece of grammar with "whom" or commas or whatever, or transgenderism HA HA JUST KIDDING?). And naturally people will think, wrongly, "this is an error" and they will revert or edit it in some way back to how it was. This is the entropy goal. But it may be actually incorrect. Now it's hard to say how we should deal with this. You might insert some sort of HTML comment like "DO NOT CHANGE THIS", which is obviously stupid for obvious reasons; or you might, um, anyway. I do feel things are going to gradually gravitate to what people expect rather than what people deserve (or what is true, which I like to imagine is the same as the latter, but perhaps I'm an optimist).

LATER COMMENT: what the hell is this? I must have written this drunk. But it has the word "entropy" in it so it's great.

MUCH LATER COMMENT: I think (a small part of) what I was trying to say is that you can spend six months trying to get an article into a certain state, with proof and arguments and votes etc., but if most people think otherwise (even if they are demonstrably wrong), they will swiftly push it back again. Homeostasis!


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