No problem. The first one is of the General Elliot Memorial at the Gibraltar Botanic Gardens. There's a mini section in the Gardens' article about it - I'm off to a family lunch now so if you could add it to the article that would be great!
The second one is of a short tunnel above Camp Bay. It's a one-way road from Rosia Bay to Europa Point. I hope that helps... A comer más pavo ahora! --Gibmetal 77talk 12:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Im not going to look back at what has occured, as I say, treating this as tabula rasa. If there is something you feel should be added, feel free to drop it onto my page and I'll put it up. If you have an issue with what has aready gone up, feel free to discuss on my talk page. Just remember, try to keep it on content, not editors. As I will remind anyone who speaks to me. I am eager for us to achieve a resolution as, when you strip away the disagreements between editors, the problems are small in number. --Narson ~ Talk • 23:00, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ecemaml, thank you for your opinion about the map. I know that I would not to write in Spanish in English wikipedia, I apologize, but a commentary as big as the one that I am going to write it would take me hours to translate decently to the English language.
Antes de todo, voy a comentar que el asunto de los colores surgió de un debate de varios meses hará poco más de un año por incluir Portugal en el mapa del imperio español. Precisamente con varios colores no ha habido desde entonces querella alguna respecto a la presencia de los territorios portugueses en el mapa del imperio español. Lo que siempre ha habido es una continua reticencia de la supuesta incomprensibilidad de un mapa con más de dos colores, cosa que jamás he podido entender, porque precisamente los mapas históricos tienen variedad de colores. Dicho esto, voy a proceder a responder a los puntos que me has citado.
Con lo que termino de momento, y si no hay problema razonable sobre Siena, me pondré manos a la obra. Muchas gracias por el interés y recibe un saludo. Trasamundo (talk) 12:16, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Best regards. Trasamundo (talk) 03:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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es:Valle de Villaverde contains the following sentence:『A principios de los años 90 la actual corporación del PRC (en aquel momento agrupación independiente) pidió públicamente pertenecer al País Vasco, llegando a solicitar el actual alcalde (Pedro Luis María Llaguno) audiencia con el rey para tratar el tema.』Perhaps I don't understand corporación in this context, and was hoping you would. In any case, unless I wholly misunderstand, it is a remarkable statement without a citation: it seems to be saying that a group that currently constitutes the PRC in the municipality—that is, a Cantabrian regionalist party—at one time wanted to meld the enclave into the surrounding Basque region. If I have understood correctly, that seems remarkable enough to require a citation. - Jmabel | Talk 23:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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hi, well job with the disambiguation in the english and spanish wiki. i'll use the same model in the french article. Olecrab (talk) 12:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is not badly named as it accurately reflects the name of a trade union that merged with the TGWU in 1963. The Gibraltar Confederation of Labour, which is a different organisation, also merged with the TGWU in the same year.
This is part of a comprehensive and accurate list of organisations that merged with the TGWU (which is now part of the largest trade union in the UK), and is historically accurate. If it is deleted then the links that are made to it claiming to be an accurate list of merged unions will not be correct. The TGWU, to which this article is linked, is a major trade union in the UK with a long history of merging with other unions and to have an accurate record of this list of mergers is useful both historically and academically.
Some considerable effort had gone into establishing an accurate list of mergers and the fact that the same author create the two articles your refer to within six minutes simply reflects that fact that all the merged union were post up at the same time.
If you look at List of TGWU amalgamations you will see that what you are proposing to delete is part of this information and will destroy this as an accurate records of events. Many of the entries in this list will be stubs because of the lack of information on the unions. I would certainly hope it is not arbitrarily deleted. Dave Smith (talk) 01:40, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Take the hint, you are not welcome on my talk page.
I don't understand this comment. All I was doing was reply to a message you left on my page :-( Dave Smith (talk) 02:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
DO NOT POST ON MY TALK PAGE
It will be deleted without being read. Justin talk 23:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your hard work! I'm afraid to say there will be more to come, but I think you've earned a break for now : )
Yes go for it, but maybe to shorten it a little just link it as:
I agree. It's something I've been wanting to sort out for ages but I don't know how to and never got round to asking anyone... It should help maintain the articles if done properly. Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 23:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm currently in the process of translating es:Hermanos Pinzón, replacing a very weak English-language article (written by a high school student). One particular phrase—a quotation from Columbus—has me stumped, the last (quoted) phrase of the following:
... Este día se apartó Martín Alonso Pinzón con la carabela Pinta, sin obediencia y voluntad del Almirante, por codicia, dice que pensando que un indio que el Almirante había mandado poner en aquella carabela le había de dar mucho oro, y así se fue sin esperar, sin causa de mal tiempo, sino porque quiso. Y dice aquí el Almirante: «otras muchas me tiene hecho y dicho».
My moderately good foreigner's Spanish suggests the reading "Many others have said and done [such things] to me", but I can imagine parsing it several other ways. Have I understood it correctly? - Jmabel | Talk 21:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Continuing (let me know if this becomes too much of a demand on your time). This 600-year-old Spanish is a bit tricky for me. My housemate is a professional interpreter, but she has no more insight than I, presumably because her deep knowledge is in modern forms of New World Spanish
Martes, 8 de enero
Por el viento Este y Sudeste mucho que ventaba no partió este día, por lo cual mandó que se guarneciese la carabela de agua y leña y de todo lo necesario para todo el viaje, porque, aunque tenía voluntad de costear toda la costa de aquella Española que andando el camino pudiese, pero, porque los que puso en las carabelas por capitanes eran hermanos, conviene a saber Martín Alonso Pinzón y Vicente Yáñez, y otros que le seguían con soberbia y codicia estimando que todo era ya suyo, no mirando la honra que el Almirante les había hecho y dado, no habían obedecido ni obedecían sus mandamientos, antes hacían y decían muchas cosas no debidas contra él, y el Martín Alonso lo dejó desde el 21 de noviembre hasta el 6 de enero sin causa alguna ni razón sino por su desobediencia, todo lo cual el Almirante había sufrido y callado por dar buen fin a su viaje, así que, por salir de tan mala compañía, con los cuales dice que cumplía disimular, aunque eran gente desmandada, y aunque tenía dice que consigo muchos hombres de bien, pero no era tiempo de entender en castigo, acordó volverse y no parar más, con la mayor prisa que le fue posible ...
My tentative translation:
Tuesday, 8 January [1493]
With such strong winds from the east and southeast he did not leave that day, because of which he ordered that that caravel be supplied with water and firewood and all that was necessary for the entire voyage, because although he intended to travel by ship along that whole Spanish coast that he could have walked on the road, but, but, because those he put in the caravels for commanders were brothers, to wit Martín Alonso Pinzón and Vicente Yáñez, and others who followed him with pride and greed estimating that everything was already theirs, not looking at the honor the Admiral had given them, they had not obeyed and did not obey his commands, before they had said and done many unmerited things against him, and this Martín Alonso left him from 21 November until 6 January without any cause or reason except disobedience, all of which the Admiral had suffered and been silent to bring a good end to his voyage, so that, to leave behind such bad company, with whom he says that it was necessary to dissimulate, although they were lawless people, and though he had to say that while with them that they were good men, because it was not the time to speak of punishment, he agreed to return and stop no more, as quickly as was possible ...
There were half a dozen places that I could imagine different interpretations either in the meaning of a clause or in the relationship between clauses, so I'm sure I misunderstood some of this (while I'm equally confident of having the bulk of it right). The first clause is actually the one that has me most confused, both in its meaning and in the relation to the rest; also I might have misunderstood the relation of que andando el camino pudiese to the rest. This thing is a minefield of ambiguity and of clauses that don't easily fit together ("Por el viento..., por lo cual mandó..., porque..., aunque..., pero..., porque (etc.) todo lo cual... , así que, por..., aunque..., y aunque..., pero, acordó volverse...") I feel like I'm reading something written by a drunken German academic (except that at least the verbs aren't all pushed to the back). - Jmabel | Talk 23:37, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm at it, one more: sería bien navegar a la cuarta del Oeste, a la parte del Sudoeste - Jmabel | Talk 05:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure translation to modern Spanish would be 90% of the battle. Also, you might look at The Pinzón Brothers where I've taken my shot at translation, and just indicate where you think I might be wrong. No specific rush, just so long as this doesn't fall through the cracks. Thanks for offering to help (and do let me know if at some point I'm wearing out my welcome). I'm finding a trove of material in es-wiki on topics that were either poorly covered or not covered at all in en-wiki, so I'm on a translation binge. As you can see, except for the archaic Spanish and some nautical terminology I seem to be on Tierra Firma with this. But thank you again for the navigation aids where I find myself at sea. - Jmabel | Talk 07:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done, good job! I'll try to think of a good hook to propose for the Did You Know section of the main page within the next couple of days... Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 01:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm currently testing this out and will report back soon. Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 02:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Qué casualidad, check out this pic I took yesterday!
Of course I'll keep them in mind, though I'm afraid photography is not allowed in the Museum... : ( --Gibmetal 77talk 22:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Talk:Gibraltar#RfC:_Self-government Guy (Help!) 11:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note to say that I appreciated your comments today, it may have been tempting to side with JzG, so I appreciate that you didn't.
I once offered to draw a line under the past and call silly squabbles to a halt. I was massively upset that you spurned that offer. I'm prepared to offer it again, what do you say? Regards, Justin talk 17:45, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When I ask for comments limited to one line and no rants and sermons, that includes lectures. I appreciate that some editors are following the discussion closely and others are bored with the constant repetition of arguments. I have certainly NOT canvassed anyone to vote in any particular direction but have asked editors who have shown a passing interest to comment. Please trim your comments to one line and keep to the topic. --Gibnews (talk) 17:38, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I started the copyedit of Joshua Hassan last night but never got round to finishing it. I'll carry on in a while. --Gibmetal 77talk 19:27, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. You called me Gibnews... : )
I remember you asking me if El Faro de Gibraltar was still in print... From this I assume it still is. Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 23:35, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is a particularly sensitive issue as there are strong POV's about the incident, not necessarily based on logic. Its also confusing as the key part of the contentious judgement contains a double negative. For the avoidance of doubt, I've included the actual words, and changed the reference to one with the FULL text rather than that nasty shortened one on the leeds site. Ideally the reference should be on the ECHR site itself, but last time I looked there it was not to be found. Its also important to include the view of the dissenting justices, as that forms part of the record of the inquiry. The ECHR review is the only reliable source of information about the event, as the inquest transcript was priced in a way to prevent people seeing it. I know someone with a copy and one day will scan it and publish. I also corrected your typo which was amusing as both HMG and the IRA were involved in covering up the facts before and after, with more than bleach. Indeed almost everyone connected with the affair covered things up including the Spanish security services, who did an excellent job and kept a very low profile. --Gibnews (talk) 10:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm currently re-translating Moguer, which seems to have been a terrible machine translation from es:Moguer. Mostly I'm doing fine, but one sentence has me thrown: "Cortando las capas superiores y en los interfluvios aparecen formas onduladas o “cabezos”." I'm confused especially by capas here; I'm not sure I understand cabezos in this context; and I'm also a bit confused by what the formas onduladas (wavy forms) are composed of (I guess the local clay soil)? If you have any insights, they'd be appreciated. - Jmabel | Talk 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Two more:
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Also, would you agree that in the context of this article, arciprestazgo must mean "archpriesthood", not "archbishopric"? I wish these ecclesiastical matters had a citation.- Jmabel | Talk 19:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I created this category to replace the one you previously created as it had a typo. Just thought I'd let you know! --Gibmetal 77talk 18:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm currently copyediting and adding a bit to this article (I've found his book The Fortress Came First on a dusty shelf and it has a little section on the author). Any particular reason why you named it by his initials rather than his full name? There's already an article on another Thomas Finlayson so I think we should move it to his full name or Tommy Finlayson (this is the name by which he is commonly known as - including the biographical section in the book). Either way will be tidier than his initials or Thomas Finlayson (historian), for example. Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 21:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks. You may have noticed I've slowly started uploading Nathan's images to Commons. They're all going to take a while to upload though!
Any news on whether I can upload the IWM inages from Finlayson's book? --Gibmetal 77talk 22:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Para esta ocasión todo el recorrido de la procesión se viste de juncias y romeros y se llena de altares para recibir al Santísimo sobre un paso de plata. Mostly clear, but I'm not at all sure what paso can mean in this context, and my confusion is no doubt compounded by uncertainty whether el Santísimo refers to a holy statue or to the Eucharist or to something else entirely. So I have "On this occasion the entire route of the procession is dressed out in sedges and is filled with pilgrims and altars para recibir al Santísimo sobre un paso de plata."
Also, did you ever get any clue what alota might mean?
I hope you are doing well. - Jmabel | Talk 18:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No idea when you'll be back? Let me know when you do as I was going to ask you if you wanted to work together on a few things : ). Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 04:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, Ecemaml, how's that going? I am really glad to read that everything has gone well and that your family is bigger now. Congratulations!
I am not really active as an editor lately, neither are you for what I can see. However, I'll link here two interesting references I've found:
Take care, mate. Espero volver a verte pronto por estos lares! And, again, congratulations! Cremallera (talk) 13:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If your suspicion is that Gibnews is Paul Tunbridge, spokesperson for the Voice of Gibraltar Group, then you're barking up the wrong tree and this is beginning to look like a witch hunt. A pretty nasty one at that. Justin talk 12:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Gibnews isn't Julio Pons either.... Justin talk 13:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. EyeSerenetalk 17:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]I read your earlier unblock request which you've now removed while you rework it. Before you get another request up, I think a fuller explanation from me might be helpful for you in deciding how you address the issue I blocked you for. This post to Justin A Kuntz's talk page, although not actually naming anyone, does everything else but. In his next post to you Justin warned you that this was a dangerous route to go down and gave you a further two warnings before raising it an ANI. It seems to me that you were indirectly looking for confirmation of your suspicions, and then casting about for other possibilities when you were told you were wrong. This is attempted outing according to WP:OUTING. As for the one week block, I wanted something that makes it clear how serious outing is, but doesn't exclude you from contributing to the article for too long. Many might see one week as lenient; another recent case on ANI involving one editor attempting to find out another's identity resulted in an indefbock. If you'd just emailed your concerns to an admin or asked for advice without being specific, that would have been different, but the public and persistent way you posted to a number of pages was a deciding factor. For what it's worth, your concerns about a possible COI are being taken seriously and will be a factor in what happens with the article. EyeSerenetalk 11:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi EyeSerene, thank you for your explanation (now I have the issue clearer). May I contact you privately? --Ecemaml (talk) 12:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I was planning to contact you yesterday, but having a one month old baby does not allow to meet any planning. As I'm much more interested in clarifying this issue that in the block in itself, I don't think it's a problem. I'll try to contact you today. Best retards and thank you for your time --Ecemaml (talk) 09:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
{{unblock|I'd like to ask the lift of my block: # I didn't intend to break any wikipedia policy related to WP:OUTING. If I did it, I deeply regret it and apologize and compromise not to do it again. # It's also fair to say that as far as I know I haven't disclosed any information about the identity of Gibnews that weren't been previously released voluntarily by him. Of course that I won't provide further details (I've also contacted privately with EyeSerene, showing that anyway all the information I have has been voluntarily posted to the wikimedia projects). In fact, I didn't disclose any information until I was "warned" by Justin (I had simply contacted Atama, although using a not proper way, something I regret). I dully recognize that I was very stupid there and, when asked by Justin, I should have just shut up and wait for Atama's directions. # In case I decide to pursue the COI issue, I won't do it unless it can be guaranteed that WP:OUTING is not infringed. I'm look for advice from admins related to COI assessment (privately, of course) and only with their permission I'll release the information I will be allowed to do. If their assessment is "no way", I'll drop the issue, since I'm not really interested in it. Best regards and thank you for your understanding --Ecemaml (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)}}
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Promise not compromise. May I suggest you drop by AN/I, read EyeSerene's comments and modify your unblock request accordingly. I doubt you'll be unblocked if you're going to continue to pursue your search for information on Gibnews. Justin the Evil Scotman talk 19:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Ecemaml. Unfortunately I only saw your emails a little while ago. Sorry it's taken me this long, I'm terrible at checking my emails! I added the text to the article but was notified of an edit conflict as you had just added it yourself. I'll give it a copy edit now... --Gibmetal 77talk 21:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]