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User talk:PA4C101

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DrowssapSMM was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

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Hello, PA4C101! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DrowssapSMM 20:55, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)

reliable

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Hello, PA4C101. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Association of Independent Colleges and Universities of Pennsylvania, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ca was:

This draft needs a major rewrite. Nearly none of the sources I see are independent from AICUP. They are all created by people affiliated with AICUP, the member univerties' news and blogs, and the AICUP's own reports. I recommend starting over, but this time, basing the draft on independent sources.

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Nearly of the citations are from independent sources (news outlets, the state senate, the Department of Education). Please see that nearly none of the citations are from the AICUP website, except to cite the names of their members.

The example the last editor suggested I follow (for a Massachusetts organization) has only 4 citations, I listed over 30.

This article meets all of Wikipedia's requirements, and meets all of the requirements from the previous editors since November.

Sad to see this continues to get sent back for no valid reason.

Thanks for considering the many merits I submitted and resubmitted multiple times.

PA4C101 (talk) 21:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)

reliable

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Please stop adding trivial information to the lede of articles e.g., [1], [2]. The lede of an article is intended to summarize the most important information about the subject, information that expanded on in the body of the article. An institution's membership in AICUP does not meet those criteria. Moreover, your edits purported to add information about the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities of Pennsylvania but instead you added links to the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts. ElKevbo (talk) 02:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that you're no longer adding this information to the lede of articles but this information doesn't appear to merit inclusion at all. It's simply too trivial and doesn't tell readers anything important about the institutions. ElKevbo (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for noticing that this information is no longer in the lede, and is instead further down and in a more relevant section. The information is relevant just as including the Middle States accreditation is relevant. Thanks. PA4C101 (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]