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Hi. I can't tag the above image because I can't remember where I got it from on the net! I think it might have been from sxc.hu, with its licence at first glance resembling public domain (but on closer inspection actually imposing usage limitations in the wording of the terms of use). Maybe it's best to just delete it. What do you think? - Mark 06:55, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I have posted talk on the unknown flowers page. More information to come, when i get it. thx! BTW: I am also a louisvillian who at least is a big fan and supporter of both buddhists and quakers, though i prefer to remain affiliatless. --65.60.216.79 18:15, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi there, All images by the US government are released into the public domain and can be used in the Wikipedia. But are images lower government structures, such as individual states, counties, and cities/towns released into the public domain as well? It would seem to make sense, but I don't want to tag any images wrongly, and make a copyright problem here.
Actually, the image is question is Image:Allapattah Library.jpg. I marked as a imagevio, since I saw the website is was taken from was copyrighted by Miami-Dade County in Florida. Is that correct, or not? Thanks. Bratsche(talk) 22:58, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)
I noticed you edited the CE pages pictures to reflect fair use only. For the sake of putting this long running issues to rest, would the fairuse clause also extend to ships in the different universes, or is this because all pictures originate from the same sorce? I ask because user 132.whatever-the-rest-of-it-was made mention that he hadn't gotten to the UC ships yet, and I definatly do not want a repeat of the CE ship fiasco. TomStar81 21:02, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Please consider finding a way, any way to restore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image%3AColeo1(s).jpg
And seriously consider making public apologies for deleting images without asking their author first, even though you know perfectly their author since you come on their own personal pages to remove the links to the iamges as well.
And yet, when I deleted two images that you had uploaded, I was chastised.
Even though the images were not used on any articles in Wikipedia. Even though the only reason they existed on Wikipedia, apparently, was that you like them.
Even though you had been asked multiple times by several different users to tag your images, but have so far declined, expecting someone else to "run a bot" and do your work for you.
Even though the images themselves clearly indicated that you did not take the photos and presumably did not own the copyright, and there was no indication that the copyright holder approved of their use on Wikipedia.
If you want your images kept, please tag them. If you're unwilling to tag them, then don't expect others to care for your images more than you do. I am available for mediation if you think it appropriate.
But it is this focus on the negative – this tendency to chastise rather than thank – that gets good, hard-working people to leave Wikipedia.
There are a handful of users on Wikipedia where, should you find yourself in conflict with them, it is almost certain that you have done something wrong. Anthere is one of them. I say this because, from what I can tell, you have upset Anthere. Also, from what I can tell, this was avoidable. When deleting an image uploaded by a respected and longtime contributor, you don't delete without asking questions first. Had you asked Anthere, she could have explained. But you didn't. And you offended a good contributor with it.
I hope you'll take this as a lesson in the future. Snowspinner 20:15, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
An untagged, orphan image—and the uploader ignored a request for tagging or license clarification for over a month—I think Quadell's actions were perfectly justified. Now I can understand Anthere being upset over her image being deleted, especially since when she uploaded it this tagging process was apparently not in place. And she might be justified in complaining about Wikipedia policy, or (better) working to change it. However, I feel it is highly inappropriate to place the blame on Quadell, who is carrying out an important function (and one not many are willing to do) in trying to clean Wikipedia of image copyright violations.
And it's certainly unfair to chastise Quadell for "offending a good contributor"; "good users" must follow policy like everyone else—image copyright violations are no more acceptable from longtime contributors than from new ones.
IThey may deserve a little more leeway, but a month without a response is plenty of time I feel. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:12, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Anyway, how to say... I do not deny Quadell all his good work and I totally recognise it is a difficult work to do. My only wish is that editors are warned before deletion. It could be a simple quick tag to add to their user talk page one week before doing it before. It just happen to be Quadell having the problem, because only Quadell happens to delete my images :-) I suppose it could be anyone else. So, I apologies to Quadell for my harshness really. And ask him to forgive me about this and not talk about it anymore.
This said, sorry, but should someone go on doubting that I am the author of my pictures, and should someone go on claiming that I am uploading copyright violations, I think I would have to call that defaming. There is absolutely no argument to say I stole my pictures anywhere. I am deeply serious about that. And feel very upset to see such comments. It is bad enough that my images are deleted for not being fit to stay here, that on top, there is no public accusation of doing illegal things at all. That might be a slip of word, but that does not make it less problematic to my eyes. It is not because an image is not tag that we are not the author, and it is not because an image is not tag that it is mandatorily a copyright violation. It is a a fallacious argument to say they are. Ant
Your welcome. I'm hoping some others will help too.
Oh, I have a question; I mistakenly deleted a few image pages instead of the image itself. Is there anything I need to to fix this? thanks- Duk 19:42, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Image:IndiaBowlingCricket.jpg: the german wiki had no soure either. Support deletion. Thanks for cleaning up -- Chris 73 Talk 22:56, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
Surely you're joking, Mr. Quadell? GeorgeStepanek\talk 00:05, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I suppose it is perhaps a foolhardy thing to do. But then again, I wouldn't want people to vote for my adminship based on a few weeks of "model" behavior and then find that I was really nothing like that. I'll just keep contributing the way I have been contributing, and I hope that people will approve of my style.
Besides, I couldn't just let people deride you on your talk page, especially when I didn't feel all the facts were being presented. As is often the case, the real issue is more complicated than a simple right/wrong matter. There were many things that could have been done differently, although not all should necessarily be expected. I don't consider this a "you vs. Anthere" issue, espeically as she seems to indicate that her dissatisfaction is with the current policy more than with your specific actions. In any case, I wanted to stick up for someone whom I thought was being portrayed unfairly. I didn't like the way the blame was being placed on you (especially when you're doing a vital but rather unpopular task), and wanted to help people see that this issue was not as clear-cut as they might have thought. But I also think it's a relatively minor issue, one that has been resolved as far as I can see. And as always, we've all learned a little; hopefully something good will come out of it. Thanks for all your hard work on this, and please don't leave. I would hate to see you or Anthere leave over this or anything else; I hope her Wikibreak is a short one. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:03, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I wanted to send you an email today, but there is no mail in your preferences. Could you write to me at anthere at wikimedia.org ? Anthere
Thanks! Yep, already sent in a comment (the license tracking mess affects my work too). If you mention this to anyone who isn't comfortable with the intermediate site, there is a direct (but slightly more complicated) way of commenting directly to the LoC. http://www.copyright.gov/orphan/index.html --iMb~Mw 15:45, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
So, you're taking a break. I hope it isn't permanent! You're a wonderful contributor here; WP:IRR won't be the same without you. So, have a good break, but come back eventually! dbenbenn | talk 16:21, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words to me Quadell. I just wanted to say I was feeling bad to see how I jumped on you. I felt picked on, really at a moment where I was not emotionally able to handle it. I really did not intend to be rude on purpose, and I would hope you forgive me and go on doing good job. I am really glad you say you will be careful in the future. Also meant to say that while I was already thinking this yesterday morning and wondering how to say it, brian and I talked a bit on irc yesterday evening... So... you might consider that helpful as well in the future. Sorry again. Anthere
No, it comes from [2], so {{fairuse}}. Perhaps some kind soul at WP:IRR will redraw it and GFDL it; it doesn't look too difficult. I uploaded that in my early days here, when I didn't fully understand copyright law (or, apparently, the proper file format). Warmest regards --Neutralitytalk 05:31, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)
Sure! I'm playing with some ideas, should have something in a few days. --iMb~Mw 10:04, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for asking. I've responded on the relevant talk page. Jayjg (talk) 17:53, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I need to know some information regarding image tags.
Thanks, Nichalp 20:39, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you removed the list of Latin proverbs (and replaced with a link to the wikiquote page). Might I ask why? I know that usually duplication of content serves no purpose, but did you consider that a lot of the Latin proverbs have their own fully fledged wikipedia articles and that while all the "written content" was kept, the "linking content", as it were, has now been lost. I will link the quotes back to wikipedia is possible, or produce a limited list of the ones we have articles on.
I'm not convinced, however, that the list wouldn't serve a purpose on Wikipedia too. It's plausable that many of the quotes on that page only became articles because they were listed there and/or red-linked. I'd like to hear your opinion before I bring back the list though. nsh 21:29, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
-update-
Ok, I've left all the quotes where I've judged there to be information above the purely literal meaning of the quote and added a short brief at the top of the article. Feedback appreciated. nsh 22:08, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
I hereby award you the Tireless Contributer Barnstar as an Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence. :) --Neutralitytalk 04:08, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)
I'd like it to stay, personally, and was going to create a stub tonight and expand on it throughout the week. Perhaps if it is removed from the Deletion list, I could do this? Many thanks --PopUpPirate 23:12, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for voting for me for adminship. I appreciate the confidence you showed in me. — Knowledge Seeker দ 08:20, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
(William M. Connolley 22:21, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)) For what its worth, JG has probably left wiki, ever since it became clear that the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/JonGwynne would go against him.
Why exactly did you mark some of those Jasenovac images as fair use [3] [4] [5] and one unused one for deletion [6]? I don't see any difference between their origin (let alone license information) so they should either all be kept or all removed. --Joy [shallot] 21:51, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi Quadell, if you have any time, I'd appreciate your advice regarding a map that I'd like to use in an article. I e-mailed the copyright owners for permission, and they've sent me an agreement they want me to return. I'm unsure as to whether I'd be allowed to agree to this, or what the implications would be. As you seem to be knowledgeable in this area, would you mind casting an eye over it, and let me know what you think? I've posted it at User:SlimVirgin/map. Best, SlimVirgin 00:12, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
Hey I've just added the {{gfdl}} template. Thanks for you attention. Cheers! Meursault2004 07:19, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for stopping by my talk page, I've never actually conducted a conversation via talk before, so I'm hoping this is the correct method of response. I was happy to be able to clean up the Recon page, and I hope I'll be able to continue some work on the page... you hit the nail on the head as far as the glut of acronyms and jargon are concerned, and that's one of the main things I tried to address, and hope to improve. The previous contributors, especially to the equipment section, were almost too knowledgable, I think. I'd like to turn the focus back to a more entry-level description, and lose some of the really technophilic stuff.
As far as where I was stationed... I worked in a somewhat rarefied technical field within the US military, so I ended up in some atypical places. Spent a lot of time in California, was discharged in Texas.... with some stops in between. Fox1 07:50, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In response to your message, no problem. Thanks for the kind comments!
The FAQ can be found here meta:Rechtsfragen März 2005 (in German. But the text is GFDL, so everybody is welcome to translate it). -- akl 22:49, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I drew these illustrations myself, based on my memories of my former service in the ATC.
Expatkiwi 20:52, 22 Mar 2005 (PST)
I think it could be in Yugi Mutou, but there is a better image showing the same character. Should I withdraw this claim? WhisperToMe 00:21, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
When you add new templates please add them to the appropriate subpage of Wikipedia:Template messages. Template:Idw, etc. must be added to Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. I'll add a few that I know of. -- Paddu 15:16, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Your removal of the copyvio notice was accompanied by no explanation, and was marked as a minor edit. It certainly isn't minor; moreover, although there was a comment posted to the Copyvio page, it offered as evidence a dead link. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:30, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Greetings, Sam. I was counting up the votes to see where we currently stand on the vote. I'm having trouble interpreting your vote. You said: "Delete if it's a copyvio. Otherwise, keep until a better illustration can be found." The trouble is, that's a highly contested question. Some claim that the image is absolutely a copyvio; others claim it's not. Images of the same actor performing the same act have been found on pay-sites. But that exact image has not been found. How should I count your vote? As keep or delete? Thanks, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 19:11, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
You changed this image from unverified to fairuse, do you know it's source? AlistairMcMillan 04:52, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
See Image:Khalidbinmahfouz.jpg uploaded by you (your first image) on 7 April 2004. You uploaded without tags/sources (as did most others during that time). Later on 30 September 2004 you tagged it fairuse (it still doesn't cite the source). When someone so involved in image-tagging had an image untagged until Sep. 2004, I would guess there would be a lot of other well-intentioned images from the early half of 2004 that are untagged (probably some already deleted :( ), with the uploader having left wikipedia since. Some of these wouldn't be orphans, but some (those that are more appropriate for commons than for an encyclopaedia) would be. -- Paddu 05:01, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I just found your {{idw}} tag at User talk:Perl. As that talk page says, Perl has since moved to wikibooks and you could only contact him/her at b:User talk:Perl. Leaving messages here when there's little chance of the user reading it here is pointless. Also note that his/her talk page is protected, probably with the intention that nobody leaves messages here & instead leaves them at wikibooks. I've intimated Perl at his/her wikibooks talk page, but beware of these issues in future. Thanks! -- Paddu 05:41, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If it's questionable, then delete. -- BRIAN0918 16:44, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Out of the millions that live in Chennai only a few thousands living along the coast were affected. I live > 2 km away from the coast and personally don't know anyone who has been affected. Fisherfolk were supposedly given (a lot of aid|no aid) to resume their business (depending on which political party makes the claim). But I don't know any fisherfolks, nor any of the people playing/exercising/etc. in the beach, so I really have no idea about the "ground reality" but I don't hear much about the tsunami (that could be because I'm introverted) so probably we could guess the general shock of the public has gone. In the rest of Tamil Nadu though, still there are some complaints about inadequate/incomplete relief measures (at least I heard a few in news channels about a week ago).
BTW I am a Tamil (though a lot less proficient in Tamil than in English). -- Paddu 18:28, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I have very mixed views on this. A rough count of the votes gives about 75%. If you discount voters with less than 1000 edits (not that I'd recommend anyone do that), the total is still under 80%. I know some people, including myself, have deleted on 66% support, but, in this case, a lot of people voting delete are giving reasons such as "vandalism target", which is not a valid reason for deletion under current policy. This has been brought up on the voting page, mainly by Oldak, but not really refuted. It's this which would make me more inclined to want a higher percentage of delete votes before deleting. The image isn't currently inline in the article anyway, which seems to make a decision about this less urgent. Then again, if it's not decided now, people will just try relisting it, and the issue will never be solved. Personally, I wouldn't delete it, but I wouldn't object if it was deleted. Sorry I can't be of more help. Angela. 01:16, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
This article isn't copyvio. Notice the public domain source under the heading "Sources". The majority of Civil War battle articles are from this one source. -- BRIAN0918 03:03, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Are you ready to talk about your crazy idea to make Wikiquote more useful? I'm curious. ☺ — Jeff Q (talk) 03:27, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Greetings, Christiaan. I was counting up the votes to see where we currently stand on the autofellatio vote. I'm having trouble interpreting your vote. You said: "Keep if it isn't a copyvio." The trouble is, that's a highly contested question. Some claim that the image is absolutely a copyvio; others claim it's not. Images of the same actor performing the same act have been found on pay-sites. But that exact image has not been found. How should I count your vote? As keep or delete? Thanks, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 17:59, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
Hi once again. I have some additional queries on image copyrights that I need to know.
Thanks Nichalp 21:07, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
Quadell, I see you're inundated with queries here, so address mine only if you have some spare time, and if not, don't worry about it. I'm trying to find a working definition/description of "fair use," so that I can make an educated judgment as to when I may use a two-dimensional image in Wikipedia under the fair-use provision. Any information or pointer in the right direction would be most helpful. Best, SlimVirgin 01:04, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
I'd said it shouldn't be kept if the copyright was questionable, which it always was. BTW, in the future, please don't forget to put the : before Image:, so I don't get greeted with that image on my talk page. Thanks. :) BRIAN0918 02:32, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I have something to ask for. It is about a picture that was located in the article about Lima, Perú. Where did you obtain that this image was copyrighted? Did you try to inform the person who uploaded to state the image's source before you got rid of the image? feel free to respond at my talk page. Thanks ! Messhermit 08:14, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Regarding the image you left me a note on on my user page, has any progress been made at contacting the site owner? If we can confirm that it is indeed a copyvio, then the vote on IfD is irrelevant -- regardless of votes, copyvios need to be removed. --Improv 14:43, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi Quadell, I noticed you came up with a copyrighted site that this image is on. Is there any reason why you haven't tagged it copyvio? I will myself, after the current round of revert warring on the image page is done. Unless there is a reason not to. Duk 20:08, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you were the first admin I came to on S:RC. Could you block user Fuck off netoholic (talk · contribs) please. Autofellatio & clear from the name. Ta Smoddy (tgeck) 23:55, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Quadell, thank you, that's extremely helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Best, SlimVirgin 06:59, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
I thought you'd want to know. . . it appears someone has vandalised your user page. ;)
While I appreciate your efforts in updating this page, I'd like to ask you to to take the items you add from the bottom of The archive section at Template talk:Did you know to avoid a number of items being skipped (which your edit did). Happy editing! 131.211.210.16 11:16, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)