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Hello Ss112, since you're performing a major edit on the above mentioned article, I was thinking it would be great if the lead was sourced out so that the article can be nominated for GA standard. dxneo (talk) 15:33, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dxneo: The lead of articles is a summary of the body. It doesn't need sourcing per WP:CITELEAD. That being said, I'm not interested in making it GA-standard or GA articles in general. If Cybertrip wants to, that's up to them. I just disagreed with the citation param order being changed. Ss11215:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merry Christmas, Ss112! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969TT me15:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly didn't know how far they went with their Prince edits until a few minutes ago. I feel any conversation about it with them would just be frustrating so thanks again for what you did.
@Great Mercian: Could you add a comment below my thread on Djaymiller's talk page saying that you don't agree with reclassifying the studio albums? I only just noticed your earlier thread on their talk page about the template change. It would help them maybe see, if they come online and see a revert and a rather large thread, that I'm not the only one who disagrees. Ss11219:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for cleaning up Ben Rector! I do plan on getting around to cleaning up the mess I made with that split, especially with sourcing, but these recent days have been nonstop busy for me. Panini!•🥪05:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Heads up though, the cutting of that content resulted in a citation error somewhere. By nonstop busy I mean I have to hit the hay and get up in 5 hours, so could you check that out for me? Panini!•🥪05:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AMCKen:WP:V. You didn't provide citations on the article for those chart positions (the fact that they may be sourced—if the chart links even all still work, as I note Canada's RPM chart database is moving yet again—on the individual song articles is not considered sufficient), and there are already the recommended maximum of 10 chart columns. More than 10 chart columns overloads tables according to editor consensus. I explained this in my edit summary. I also asked you close to three years ago to provide citations for Canadian chart information (User talk:AMCKen#Sources for Canadian chart information), and yet you're still adding unsourced chart positions. It appears another music editor has also warned you for adding unsourced information more recently (User talk:AMCKen#April 2022). Ss11222:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I put the cites on the individual songs so as not to clutter up the table, and said so. Only those songs that don't have an article to themselves get the cite in the table, as I have done numerous times before. AMCKen (talk) 22:58, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AMCKen: You can use more than one cite template in a ref tag. This is very common on discographies with websites that have different URLs for each song or album that charted. It doesn't matter that you've gotten away with adding unsourced information on other articles, that has nothing to do with this one. It simply would not clutter up the table if you listed them all under one citation. Sorry, but this is not the place to come and complain that I reverted you for adding unsourced information. Ss11223:03, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheChineseGroundnut: I'm not very familiar with that. You might just have to wait for a review of it. In future, you can just create these articles in mainspace if you believe them to be notable. Ss11217:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for making the page for The Pilgrim, Their God and the King of My Decrepit Mountain and for cleaning up the Tapir! article! I'm not sure if you're a fan of theirs or not, but if you are it's always nice to find another in the wild, and regardless I really appreciate your contributions :]
Thanks for your edits on this page. I don't know if you have time or chance, but would you consider doing a little read/copy edit on the intro? I also don't know if you have any experience with movie pages, but I'm thinking its about time that a page was made for the movie portion?
@Lil-unique1: I think the lead is fine; what I did when I edited it earlier as is as much as I felt needed to be done to it, honestly. As for the film, it probably should have a separate article as it's getting reviews. Ss11218:02, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Ss112. I am not sure if you saw my ping, so I wanted to drop a message here. I went ahead and removed the four Hazbin Hotel images from the “cover” parameter. So, I wanted to take you up on that offer of a withdrawal. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page)15:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that you left me messages in the discussion and have edited the article mentioned in the title of this message. Far from being angry, the truth is I thank you a lot for helping me. In fact, I apologize for any misunderstandings. Regarding the release of the single, I had no idea about that; For this reason, I have reverted your edit. Seriously, I'm sorry, I feel really bad right now. Also a thousand apologies for the transfer; I did not know that the movement I made also corresponds exclusively to an administrator; Seriously, what a shame. Believe me, I didn't want to do this because of a lack of history or bad faith, I'm just trying to do the right thing because I want to improve the article for GA.
@Ss112: I already completed the article. Do you think it's ready for GAN yet? Just answer yes or no, because any observations must be made in the peer review that I have opened. I ask to know if it is appropriate to close the review or wait. Santi (talk) 22:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pollosito: Yes, looks fine to me. In future, please reply on your talk page, as that's where I opened a thread concerning this article first. It's best not to split conversations between two talk pages. Ss11222:05, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, hope all is well. I had a quick question regarding the Japanese charts you added on Visions. Wouldn't the "Japanese Digital Albums" be a component to the "Japanese Albums" chart per WP:CHARTMATH? I wasn't sure if it’s only for Billboard charts as that's all that’s listed as examples. I originally removed the digital album chart until realizing that you had added it — but then quickly reverted it and reached out to you and ask. Pillowdelight (talk) 20:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pillowdelight: No, the main Japanese chart published by Oricon as linked to in the album chart template is physical sales only. They have a combined chart that is published a few days later, but Oricon for some intents and purposes still considers the physical chart its main chart as Japan, unlike the majority of the rest of the world, is still a physical sales-dominated market. Ss11223:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I noticed you removed "torch song" from We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love). Since the song is a song about heartbreak and longing, shouldn't that warrant the inclusion of the "torch song" tag since torch songs revolved around the theme of longing, lost love and unrequited love? 2403:5801:98D4:0:CC8:4344:4F0A:80CF (talk) 05:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok well there are so many songs there listed as torch songs without a single source. I've noticed Work From Home by Fifth Harmony is labelled as a torch song and nobody's done anything about that, same with The Joker and the Queen. 2403:5801:98D4:0:CC8:4344:4F0A:80CF (talk) 07:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You do alot of excellent work on contributing to Wikipedia's coverage of music and hip-hop related topics and it motivates me! Thank you. @T.C.G.[talk]11:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. That's fine! I will remember that for when R&B/Hip Hop charts and Dance charts are added to the chart box even though the album has charted on the main chart! That's right, right?? -_- :/ Thurlow0391 (talk) 16:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thurlow0391: Genre charts are fine; component charts like physical sales, including vinyl sales, and digital consumption (streaming and downloads) should not be added when an album has charted on the main chart of a country per WP:CHARTMATH because those main charts take physical and digital consumption into account already. Ss11223:16, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Ss112, firstly I want to thank you for all the contributions you're doing on music side on the encyclopedia, none can compare. With that being said, I'm back citing this discussion, GA nom requires non-article creator to have extensively contributed to the article before they can nominate for it GA and I am not sure if I qualify or not, so as the creator of "Water" I was wondering if you've changed your mind. I was also thinking of nominating Tyla after its hype.
Another thing, I was wondering if you could teach me how to follow charts peak/data and certifications like how you do please. Truly, you're amazing. I'll be on the lookout for your response. dxneo (talk) 19:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dxneo: Thanks for the compliments but I really don't think I contribute anything that special that nobody else can. I have never had the view that anybody here is irreplaceable or anything like that. As for "Water", if you mean have I changed my mind about wanting to nominate it for GA—no, I'm not the sort of editor who pursues GA/FA and I never will be. You'd have more luck asking Cybertrip, as they contributed most of the content, if they want to nominate it for GA. I merely created it and added half the charts. I'm not a big contributor of certification data. As for charts, I'm not sure if I can "teach" someone how to follow them. Obviously it's about knowing when they update, but even then, if you do want to add charts, I always try to tell editors: find a chart nobody else regularly adds. There are plenty out there. Even still, different editors have different things they're adept at doing. Ss11216:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response, I thought you had some sort of special way of finding the charts in one place, I'll try to follow the charts also as I noticed the Nigerian TurnTable charts are also missing on the Tyla album. Cybertrip, do you mind bro? The GA? dxneo (talk) 17:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there! I was going through the albums list to do my usual credit additions and saw the {{in use}} template at the top of Love in Constant Spectacle, but it looks like you haven't edited it for about six hours. No worries at all if you're still going in on a big edit, but could you give me a heads up when you're finished so I can add those credits in?
I always write them out in an external notepad so it doesn't get eaten if any of my stuff crashes or I close a page accidentally, so I can add it in whenever. Just don't want to cause you to lose any work! Sock(tock talk)18:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@Livelikemusic: I agree that the persistence in readding the stylisation notes is annoying, but from what I see it's not just Swift's fans at it. It's just much too rampant in pop music on this website. Editors see the notes in one place and think they need to be put everywhere else. Any lower-case or upper-case lettering anywhere—cover artwork, in press releases, on streaming websites—is apparently worthy of note to some people even when it's reduced to just one parenthetical note and they know we can't mimic it elsewhere. Ss11203:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of the ones made by Factcheckworld212 on May 17th. He wiped the entirety of Jimmie Allen's sexual assault allegations, claiming it as false information despite it all being properly sourced and highly relevant. CloversMallRat (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CloversMallRat I've reverted all of their edits and page blocked the user from that page and the related discography page. Apologies to @Ss112 for jumping in on this but vandalism is something that should be handled as expeditiously as possible. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CloversMallRat: For future reference, an easier way is sometimes to just click on the revision preceding the first vandal edit, edit it and save that. But yes, I would have also informed an admin about this. Ss11205:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the fix you made with this edit. I'd been building out the credits on an external notes app for awhile and completely missed that the small text had been removed in the interim. Total oversight on my part, so I appreciate the catch!
I also appreciate the refresher for WP:ACCESS. I could've sworn small text wasn't preferred in article text, but I've also been reluctant to change credit styles since I tend to get reverted when I do. Good looking out all around! Sock(tock talk)12:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I see a lot of songs have charted on this Romanian charts' Kiss Top 40 and Top 40 Kiss'N'Dance. I've never seen it before but it is used on "Bad Guy", can you please tell me how to go about it. Another thing, I always hit an error when trying to access the Czech Republic and Slovakia charts forcing me to lean on Billboard Hits of the World Songs charts, ever happened to you or it's just my region or device? For Russia, there's All Media chart, I've never seen cited anywhere, I only see radio chart even at {{single chart}}, any reason?
So sorry for bothering you, thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. dxneo (talk) 11:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dxneo: I'm not sure about the Romanian Kiss FM chart. I'd lean towards saying it's a WP:SINGLENETWORK chart, but there was previously some consensus about a Romanian radio chart that was an exception to SINGLENETWORK. Not sure if it was Kiss FM or Media Forest. As for the Czech and Slovak charts, AFAIK there are sometimes errors accessing those. I don't regularly add any of the charts you're asking about though. Might be best to ask at Wikipedia talk:Record charts. Ss11212:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification there. I've been given "citation needed" edits on other album pages in the past when I didn't say the info came from the liner notes, which never made sense to me, so I appreciate your explanation that I'm actually not crazy on that. :) CaptHayfever (talk) 05:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I saw your edits on Joker Xue's album pages and I'm confused by your notes "we don't list music videos like this" and "rm gratuitous overlinking to the music videos, which can be seen as promotional. Any more than one link to YouTube should be questioned" because I got the template to include music videos in the infobox from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:External_music_video, where the example for album pages included multiple links to music videos. I don't disagree that music videos, by nature, at promotional as they are there to promote the song but they are also visual/artistic representations of the songs and the album as a whole so they should be included. Would it be better to link to them in the track list? Or is it better to skip them altogether? NotNowAndYet (talk) 05:07, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@NotNowAndYet: I wasn't aware of that, but I wholeheartedly disagree with that example on the template page. It's never like that in practice, and the editor who added that is almost solely an editor involved with the technical and coding templates side of Wikipedia. Anyway, I'm talking about the fact that linking to them gratuitously like that is promotional in and of itself—it's like, "here's all the videos, go and give them a view!" It's akin to linking to Apple Music, Spotify, Tidal, or some other page listing the album for sale or streaming, which is discouraged per WP:AFFILIATE. Linking to the music videos for the songs from the album on the album page is not common practice on Western music albums, so I don't think it should be like that for Asian pop articles either. In external links sections or the track listing included. Ss11207:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification re: how the infobox is in practice and what you meant by promotional. I understand your point a lot better now and agree with your perspective. NotNowAndYet (talk) 07:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Ss112, could I please get your assistance with an edit I made at Nublues. I added a Metacritic rating and added a track listing template, however the original creator of the article reverted my edit. The original creator cited that Metacritic only has 4 reviews on the album, and that its not enough for critical consensus. To my understanding, Metacritic is reliable enough with 4 or more reviews, and the tracklisting template makes the article stand out better. Is this correct or not?
Thanks --Majash2020 (talk) 06:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Majash2020: Yes, some users feel strongly about not using the track listing template, so I wouldn't convert numbered lists to the template in future. If you think using the template would have a benefit, propose it on the talk page and ping the creating editor. As for the Metacritic score being removed, I haven't come across that opinion before. I would propose your edit that it be introduced on the talk page. If you want to start a talk page thread about it being included, I would weigh in and support it. While I've just edited the article and made some style fixes, I can't reintroduce the prose for you. That would be basically edit warring, but I don't see an issue with the score being in the template. Ss11206:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help on the chart section. I just saw the Spanish and Australian and charts on the B. Inspired page and added them, didn't realise they weren't legit so thanks for sorting that. As for the references/citations, I'm still not 100% on how they work in regards to charts and stuff so apologises for that! Many Thanks. MoonknightPP34 (talk) 15:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any evidence other than that this editor is from Taiwan? Not saying you 're wrong, but there are close to 24 million people who live there. I'm not sure I'm comfortable assuming anyone editing music charts from Taiwan is Tim96144 absent some other evidence. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ad Orientem: The same range, combined with the fact that Tim96144 used to "wait" for me to edit charts (and complain when I was late, like it's my responsibility or duty to do them) before coming in to do anything I'd missed indicates to me that it's him. In the 10+ years I've been adding charts, I've yet to see another Taiwan-based IP editor bother with US charts a couple of hours after they update. Ss11219:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I did a little cross checking and looked at the very thin editing record for such a wide range and am satisfied they are likely the only one editing in it. I have reblocked the /16 range x 6 months. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, just so you know, the times I entered for the album were from Apple Music. These are very different to what you have entered. Tobyjamesaus (talk) 10:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tobyjamesaus: Toby, I think you're confused. This is the normal version of the album. You did not enter track times from that at all. There isn't a single track on Rise that is over 4 minutes long. Your revision had tracks with runtimes all over 4 minutes. What version of the album are you apparently looking at? There's no "extended version" that I'm aware of. Ss11210:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I could screen shot what I have here, I would. The times are exact as per the Apple Music that I am looking at right now. I didn't think it is an extended version or anything. I entered the information as per what I saw. Tobyjamesaus (talk) 10:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interestingly enough, when I typed the address into send the URL, the times were the shorter ones (which is what you entered) yet, on Apple Music on my desktop, it is showing the longer ones. That is odd Tobyjamesaus (talk) 10:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tobyjamesaus: It appears there may be "original mixes", but these aren't the most widely available versions—not on Apple Music, Spotify or Qobuz anymore. Discogs is showing these original mixes were distributed physically (on vinyl) and perhaps digitally at one point [5]. Even still, I believe the times on the article should reflect the most widely available versions. If you can find a source explaining that Fodera edited all the tracks down, then we could include them all. Ss11210:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Totally fair enough and I agree, we should go with what is the most widely available version. I apologise, I was going by what is on my Apple Music - which I assumed - was widely available. Thanks for fixing anyway. It's very strange that my Apple Music has longer version! haha Tobyjamesaus (talk) 10:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've met 112.207.8.152 as the latest IP of a long-term problem. They tend to hit a same/similar pool of pages each time, many times. Please report them to AIV ASAP, more efficient than simply reverting them. DMacks (talk) 10:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. Well, they're blocked now, so I guess we're all set until a few days from now when they find a new IP. DMacks (talk) 10:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]