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--EncycloPetey (talk) 14:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
...this one, to be exact. Would redirecting to the district page be OK? I'm not saying it was a bad decision (I put it on AfD for a reason :) ), but it could go either way. J-ſtanContribsUser page 04:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I just want to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Merry Christmas! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 01:48, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Wizardman, and Happy Christmas!
I am writing to ask if you would like to review your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucy Hannah.
I am aware that there were more "keep" !votes than "deletes", but I can see nothing in any of them which justifies keeping this single sentence as an article rather than as an entry in a list. Even NelalIRC (who maintains, or used to maintain, a website on this stuff at http://www.nealirc.org) acknowledged that there is no prospect of any more substantial sources to allow the article to be expanded ... so it is destined to remain a permanent substub.
I can see a reasonable case being made to merge or redirect, but as per the AfD, I simply don't see any valid arguments to keep. Please could you reconsider? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, my view is that for GFDL reasons the history should be restored and a protected redirect to Wauseon Exempted Village Schools, where the content was merged, created. Perhaps you would look at this again, please? TerriersFan (talk) 11:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Copy and paste from the case below. ;-) Thanks! Jehochman Talk 17:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Please remember to protect the DYK image, or you're just asking for vandalism on the Main Page. See Wikipedia:Did you know#Pictures --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
You never know, if I run out of good Michigan football topics, I might just write an article on Ohio Sta-- nah!Cbl62 (talk) 18:50, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Wizardman,
I was just wondering: You denied the requests for protection for List of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air characters and for Roger Federer. It's not just looking at the last 4 days or so. It's a regular pattern of unconstructive edits or vandalisms. Sometimes it's high frequency and sometimes it's at a low frequency. But it's getting to be quite annoying. Maybe not so much for other users, because I'm the one who keeps catching these edits! If you look at the history, you see my username about every 7 edits (estimated lol).
~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 17:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
According to the subpage on your WikiPhilosophy, you are unsure of what it is. Judging by some of your actions at AfD, I believe that it may be deletionism. You can thank me at my talk page, or if you'd like to reward me monetarily, I can give you PayPal information. 65.190.89.154 (talk) 17:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for the barnstar. Luckily, I think more people have added the vandalism-prone year articles to their watchlist. --TM 18:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you with this general question but I wasn't sure where to ask. I once came across a type of proposed deletion tag for uncontroversial deletions that don't meet the criteria for speedy deletion. I can't seem to find any mention of it in the deletion policies. Do you have any idea what I'm talking about, or was I imagining this? And if it's real could you direct me to the tag or info about it or something? Thanks!
Equazcion •✗/C • 10:48, 12/25/2007
I've asked Ryan Postlethwaite, my admin coach if he thought I was ready for it. Here's the discussion, but I'm awaiting an answer. Thanks for the offer, but I want to see if Ryan thinks I'm ready, being my coach. If he doesn't think so, I don't think an RfA would be wise at this time. J-ſtanContribsUser page 19:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure if I'm ready for a 4th RfA quite yet. Let me get back to you on that once I'm a little more coherent (I overslept today so I'm kinda groggy). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Moving kindly received barnstar to awards section :) 05:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Sure will. Wasn't Ryan Postlethwaite doing admin coaching? Regards, Rt. 15:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
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Fifty references on a Did You Know?! Wow, don't see that too often... Great job! --JayHenry (talk) 03:06, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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I noticed you starting Art Houtteman, well I'm starting Gene Conley, lets see who could finish our articles to at least WP:GA first :P, and lets get User:Nishkid64 to do an article as well :p. By the way, if you need sources http://www.paperofrecord.com/default.asp (which you need to sign up) has all the Sporting News archives, which is the best sources for those old players we are doing. Thanks Secret account 21:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Very impressive work on Hotteman so far. I have access to some databases that would like turn up some good stuff on him. I may chip in a bit too, unless you prefer I don't. On the Virgil Trucks image, if I include a better fair use rationale, do you think it can remain?Cbl62 (talk) 20:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
the 2002-2006 NFL Drafts that you nominated for featured list have been listed at WP:FLRC to be de-listed from featured list. Gman124 (talk) 01:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
[1] Cheers. WjBscribe 04:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
If you you would like to co-nom, than you are welcome to. Would you be co-noming with Useight? STORMTRACKER 94 12:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
In response to your question at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Jeepday: In January 2008 the user Thetreesonmars made a series of contributions with the attempt to include WP:OR that are summed up in this edit Diff that proposes that NASA images provide a case for the existence of plant life on Mars. All of the user edits to the main space have been reverted by the community. The two images you mention Here and here are remains of that attempt. The descriptions, titles, and sources of the images are suspect and their source as NASA Mars images has not been confirmed. I marked the images with {{OR}} pending verification of source and, validation of description or deletion of images. The Images are now pending deletion. If the images are NASA they could of some intrest to Wikipedia but currently I am at a loss on how to validate the source as the descriptions and titles do not appear to be NASA derived the search would be extremely challenging. Jeepday (talk) 19:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the consideration. However, at this point in time there's things I'd need to get some experience on that would likely come up as issues in an RFA. E.g., my participation in xFD debates is a handful at this point, and I don't really participate in Wiki maintenance beyond mainspace edits. There's also the question of time spent; Wikipedia at times keeps me busy enough without admin duties to handle, and I'm not at the point yet where I could comfortably spend enough time on here as an admin without compromising what I have to do in real life. When I think I'm ready I'll change the userbox about not wanting to be an admin to wanting to be one someday. I think that I'd rather be a good user first rather than a bad admin second. BrokenSphereMsg me 19:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a great new year, --Elonka 04:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello, you closed the debate on this school with the comment that multiple sources had been found. I'm a little lost; I thought that middle schools and primary schools had to establish notability to be included; my AfD was not on WP:V, it was about WP:N. Notability was never established, only verifiability. I'm not contesting the closure, I'm just looking for a little more explanation in case I come across another middle school on New Page Patrol...--CastAStone//(talk) 04:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've just made another submission. Could you double check this for length please? DurovaCharge! 05:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Yikes, that was out of the blue. Not what I expected logging in Monday morning. I've forwarded your very flattering message to another admin, user:JodyB, for a second opinion before I say Yay or Nay. He and I have been doing the "adoption" process for a month or two (see this) . Thanks for the consideration, I'll let you know! Keeper | 76 16:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Wizardman. Would you mind elaborating on this edit of yours, please? The nominator wants to know what happened, and another editor re-posted the hook on DYKNU. I thought it's best that the three of you can discuss it. Perhaps a short note on T:TDYK would do. I've moved the hook to a 'holding area' on DYKNU for now. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 17:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Thx for prompt reply ... I was expecting to fimd it still there if short. However ... we are all fallible. Victuallers (talk) 23:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I've created Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Stormtracker94 3 because I wanted a place to get my thoughts together for nominating him. The page won't be transcluded until the 23rd, but if you want a place to write up your co-nomination, it's available. Useight (talk) 00:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Congrats, Wizardman! Looks like you got an "Amazing Admining" commendation on VigilancePrime's What Were They Thinking? page, which highlights some of the worst AND the best moments in the use of admin tools in perhaps the most polite and civil way possible. This then led me to read the AfD for which you were commended, and I must admit, it was a stellar piece of admin-work. Good job, and keep up the good work - if only more admins were more like you, working to clean up and maintain this great project rather than squabbling over policy. DEVS EX MACINA pray 06:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It is January 8, 11:07 p.m. (UTC). That's almost January 9th. Ideally, we should be putting the last of the January 3rd hooks, possibly even starting January 4th.
Rather than waiting 53 minutes and placing the January 8th hooks in the "expired noms" section, I've just placed the January 2nd hooks there.
Some people reach for expired noms for the next update. I think a slightly expired nom is not ideal but sometimes necessary due to the DYK lateness in updating. However, this worsens the next day's problem.
The next update only had 5 hooks and was already more than an hour late. I added two more to try to reduce the number of hooks that are rejected because of DYK lateness. Actually, I favor 8 but some don't like it when the main page is not evenly divided between DYK/FA and today's birthdays/in the news.
So my rule of thumb is 1. allow slightly expired noms, 2. don't change the expired noms date until it's really past 5 days, 3. fill up the next update and not just have 5-6 hooks (unless they are long), and 4. try to get DYK on time. Archtransit (talk) 23:14, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused. Why was the hook for Ali Williams added as a DYK now when it was only expanded on 8 January? Especially considering there are still valid noms from 2 January? Another note, I've placed the GA nom for Luis Castillo (baseball) on hold. You can see my comments here. - Shudde talk 23:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the DYK for the Altenberg bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton track. I really appreciate it. I wasn't expecting this until later this week given all of the other nominations out now, but thanks anyway. Chris (talk) 00:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Can you explain why you restored the unsourced information about a living person to this article and removed my comments from the talk page? Toddst1 (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I originally had thought about waiting a month or so before nominating myself, but what the hell, why not. I would gladly accept your offer for a nomination. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! athinaios | Talk 08:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Wizard, I just commented out the DYK banner you posted on my talk page. The credit for creation/expansion goes to Jimmy Pitt (talk · contribs). My only part in it was nominating an alternate hook that was eventually used instead of the original nomination. (I had put it up as a full nomination, but pulled it after seeing that it was hiding in the blizzard of prior nominations, and then proposed my hook as an alternate.) AFAIK, the DYK process doesn't give credit to those who propose alternate hooks that get used... or does it? — Dale Arnett (talk) 21:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Just for easier reference :P --slakr\ talk / 22:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer Wizardman. It would be amusing to watch the potential bloodbath that my RfA would become, but ultimately it would just be a waste of the community's time. I've opposed too many RfAs, argued to keep too many AFDs, overturn too many DRVs and -- the greatest sin of all! -- been critical of too many of the wrong people. I think if you looked through my contribs you'd start to see where all the opposers would come from ;) It's okay though. T:DYK/N is where things get backlogged anyways, and I can continue to help there. Thanks again for the offer and I do appreciate your faith in me. --JayHenry (talk) 03:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for the nice surprise! Next stop - world domination. ... discospinster talk 14:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I am attempting my first move to the main page. Let me know if there are any errors. The change is due in 30 minutes but it may take time for me to do it. I already protected the image. Archtransit (talk) 19:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your RFA support. Although I didn't save any effort this time because you had to supervise the DYK move, I think I'll be able to help myself next time. Archtransit (talk) 19:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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...My guinea pigs and the "A"s through "S"s having felt this message was OK to go forward with (or at least not complained bitterly to me about it :) ), today it's the turn of the "T"s through "Z"s (and beyond, apparently)! I'm hoping that more of you chaps/chapettes will point to their own criteria instead of mine :)... it's flattering but a bit scary! :) Also, you may want to check back to the table periodically, someone later than you in the alphabet may have come up with a nifty new idea. ++Lar: t/c 20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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--Excellent work here. Good luck getting it through FAC :)GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 10:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Because you are a member of WikiProject Categories, your input is invited on some proposed changes to the design of the {{Category redirect}} template. Please feel free to view the proposals and comment on the template talk page. --Russ (talk) 21:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
In case you don't notice, this has been recreated. I've changed the target from FBI to my proposed List of Internet slang specific to thread-based communication. Before you speedy delete as recreation, please consider whether consensus is really delete. The first three people did not seem to realize the alternative, and the last "obscure inside joke" comment seems only to refer to FBI as the target. I mean, if V& is actually explained somewhere, a search for it should lead there. –Pomte 06:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
You have a typo on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Stormtracker94 3, you have "i" instead of "I". Not a big deal, just trying to make the page look as good as possible. Useight (talk) 04:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for voting in my RfA, which I withdrew with 5 support, 14 oppose, and 9 neutral. Thank you for your comments! Whether it was a support, oppose, or neutral, I likely got some good feedback from you. I will probably do another RfA in the future, but not until I work out the issues brought up. |
Soxπed Ninety Three | tcdb 17:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Would you please reconsider your closure of the RfD discussion of this redirect? Several of the early "delete" comments were factually wrong and should have been discounted in the closure. Specifically:
Several editors further argued that "No one will ever search for this." The facts raised during the discussion did not support that claim. If you saw the phrase and wanted to look it up, you are very likely to copy-paste it into the search engine (which, by the way, is the most common way that people easily type in the æ character - but it's not that hard to enter by hand either). It might not be the way you would conduct your research but WP:R admonishes us not to make assumptions that everyone uses the encyclopedia the same way.
I appreciate your consideration of the issue. Rossami (talk) 04:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that, yes, I'd like to try for adminship. Thanks for thinking of me. As for co-noms, User:Stormtracker94 asked me about a month ago if I would like him to nom me. I turned it down. NF24(radio me!) 20:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC) Sorry, we weren't able to suggest any articles for you. Something is probably wrong on our end.
My request for adminship was successful at 64/1/2! Many thanks for your participation and I will endeavor to meet your expectations. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I will co-mom. I'll write it up later today STORMTRACKER 94 12:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for removing the hook with no new articles. Would you add a few more to the template while I credit the ones already added? Note that there's a large difference between today and tomorrow, so don't load it up too much. Royalbroil 22:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
When unprotecting a template, you should remember to check the number of transclusions. This one has a few thousand, which means that any edit to it will add to the job queue. So a sandbox is a better way for editors to test changes. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for thinking of me. Let me think about it and make sure that I can devote enough time to it, classes just started for me so I want to get into my schedule and see how much time I have. I will let you know probably in a week or so. But thanks for thinking of nominating me, I would love to be nominated by you! :-)
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