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Thanks for taking this on. Although I totally agree that the cttee must adhere to Wikimedia policy, and is set up to enforce, or enact policy, not make it, I do believe that the "troops in the trenches" are the best people to involve in policy development. I hope if you get elected you can add this in to the debate: that Arbitration Panel members should regularly put their heads together with policymakers to try and design the system to be better in the long run. IMHO - I feel like a fair number of my edits get reverted without just cause, but there is no obvious way to get help from Wiki, and I don't have the time to engage with the reverters, so I just let it go. This is not what we want. We need to make conflict resolution easy, and that conflict resolution must be supervised. There are too many people out there who believe they own articles, or want to re-inforce their world view or personal agenda. Tx
I’m very proud of the work my colleagues and I have done on the Signpost over the last year. I think the Signpost plays a vital and necessary role in the community . But publishing the Signpost and maintaining a high level of quality is incredibly time consuming. I don’t think readers realize the amount of work that is required behind the scenes, and given our recent personnel shortage, more and more tasks have fallen on fewer people, including myself. Publishing the Signpost has been a crash course in project and personnel management for me, and while I’m very happy with the work that we’ve done, along the way I’ve discovered that some of these tasks don’t mesh well with my skill set and have left less and less times for the tasks that do. Well before I decided to run, we started working on a reorganization plan to restructure the work behind the scenes and recruit more contributors. I think the Signpost can be more effective if I step back to focus on the tasks I excel at and give other people a chance to shine at the tasks I do not. In the short term, that means taking a leave of absence from the post of Editor in Chief. I will continue to participate in a minor way with some writing and copyediting, but major decisions and anything to do with election coverage will be left to Go Phightins! and the rest of the Editorial Board. In the long term, I plan to continue a lower level of participation while we recruit more personnel and step down entirely from the role of Editor in Chief once a suitable replacement is found.
Often free speech is invoked in defense of incivility. But one can have a strong commitment to free speech while simultaneously realizing that one needs to act in an appropriate manner towards other people in certain situations. No one thinks that it is incompatible with free speech to be unable to say whatever you want, whenever you want in the classroom or workplace. You can’t discuss your sexual exploits over Thanksgiving dinner (or perhaps you can, if you have an interesting family) and you can’t insult or sexually harass your coworkers. Wikipedia should be no different.
The fact that Wikipedia is on the Internet does not excuse it from normal human mores of behavior. Many of the Internet’s most avid users are strong proponents of free speech, and I think one of the most positive aspects of the Internet is that people can indulge in almost whatever kind of speech they want and be whatever they want to be, even if that means indulging negative aspects of themselves. But they should not be able to indulge themselves in this way on every single part of the Internet, and Wikipedia is under no obligation to provide a platform for this negative behavior.
Wikipedia is first and foremost an encyclopedia, not a maximum free speech zone. We have long recognized that you cannot say whatever you want here. We forbid offensive and libelous speech directed at living individuals. We forbid using pages as a forum for non-Wikipedia opinions and material. We forbid spamming, legal threats, and posting private information about others. It is a vital and cherished part of free speech that one can say whatever you want about politicians, for example, but if you speak your mind about those politicians here on Wikipedia, your comments will quickly be deleted. It is incomprehensible to me that one can accept all these restrictions and still argue that being terrible to other editors is somehow an important component of your personal freedom.
Civility, in fact, maximizes free speech for the most number of people and furthers Wikipedia's mission of creating an encyclopedia. The atmosphere of collaborative editing is only improved when more editors feel free to contribute without being attacked or harassed.
Dealing with the press is always problematic, especially for non-professionals for whom this is not their primary responsibility. This is compounded by the fact that the English-language press has little experience with or knowledge of the inner workings of Wikipedia, a subject I discussed at my WikiConference panel and in a recent Signpost editorial. The statement released following the GamerGate case was especially problematic and was perceived by many as a justification for the decision instead of an explanation. Despite all of this, I am in favor of a limited engagement with the press on a strictly explanatory basis when absolutely necessary, perhaps with short, targeted statements in FAQ form that favor concise, unambiguous factual points over lengthy narratives.
Thank you for stepping forward!
In general, I do not believe that a small number of editors should be able to carve out a separate consensus in a corner of Wikipedia on an issue that affects a wide number of articles. This only encourages proxy battles on obscure articles over issues that should be decided on more widely read articles, and those decisions should be governed by the consensus of the wider community. There should be an infobox in all opera articles or an infobox in none, or clear rules describing when they are and are not acceptable. Until then, we are left with half-measures and bitter conflicts on obscure articles.
I do not understand why the issue of infoboxes has sparked such contentious debates. I studied metadata in graduate school and I recall it being a pretty dry subject. The fact that this issue has caused such fervor among a small minority means the larger community needs to resolve this matter. The Committee cannot compel them to do this, but editors who are involved in these battles should feel some obligation to direct their energies towards RFCs and other methods of gauging widespread consensus and hammering out potential policies.
In this particular discussion, I see mostly squabbling, proxy warring, and lashing out based on pre-existing grudges and little discussion based on policy, style guidelines, or reasoning. As a result, I would trout some editors and close it “no consensus”.
If you are topic banned from something, you generally had to do a lot of work to get there. So if you make an innocuous comment in violation of that ban, there were many more not so innocuous comments that came before that. Let’s not forget the context of such incidents or the disruptions that forced a topic ban in the first place. I am not opposed to ignoring a minor, harmless violation, but neither do I generally object to enforcing a valid ban when that ban is violated. What is the alternative? Do we have a long discussion about every violation and debate whether or not this particular comment is harmless? Would this not encourage people to violate their bans and cause this kind of disruption? What about the people who have topic bans but do not have a vocal contingent of supporters? I cannot muster outrage over a popular editor blocked for such a comment while the same people are not outraged over less popular editors blocked in exactly the same circumstances.
No outcome is inevitable and Arbitrators have an obligation to review the evidence without a preordained outcome in mind. But for a case to get to the Committee, generally a lot has to happen - noticeboard discussions, administrative involvement, etc. - and if the conflict has gone through that and still has to go before the Committee, it seems likely that the conflict is so intractable or the behavior so egregious that sanctions will be the result.
As I discussed in response to Gerda Arendt's question #2, single comments do not occur in a vacuum. Context is important and necessary to fully understanding the situation, so I would have to examine the entire conversation and know who the editors in question were and whether or not they had prior contact to be able to judge this particular situation. In general, I think that editors throw around "involvement" far too much and in ways that are not consistent with the actual policy. For example, I was recently called an "involved" party for asking editors to provide diffs to support their arguments in a noticeboard discussion. A single comment usually does not constitute involvement or indicate partiality.
Reasonable concessions and accommodations should be made to editors whenever possible, but an Arbitration case is a long-running matter that involves multiple parties and is scheduled in advance. All of this can't come to a halt at a moment's notice because all of those other people involved also have their own schedules and obligations and vacations to deal with as well. Such concessions also run the risk of parties using absences as a tactic to avoid sanctions, as has frequently happened on Wikipedia. Arbitration cases usually involve editors who have a long tenure on Wikipedia, so in most cases finding time to write out a thousand words about something they are intimately familiar with is not an unreasonable thing to expect of them. Conflicts encourage verbosity and grandstanding, and the word limits are necessary to counteract that. I don't think it's unreasonable to grant extensions on a case by case basis, and responding to evidence from multiple parties seems like a reasonable scenario for granting such an extension, depending on the nature of the response and whether someone intends to post just diffs or a lengthy narrative rebuttal.
The Terms of Use have the force of policy and can be enforced accordingly.
Unfortunately, I would bring a wealth of experience with this to the Committee. I have lost track of the number of times I’ve been the victim of these sorts of behaviors, on and offsite. After I blocked a minor political operative for his abominable behavior on the article of some obscure officeholder, he conducted a multi-year campaign of sometimes daily abuse and vandalism, cheered on by Wikipedia Review. (They did delete his death threat, so that was nice.) One of the achievements I’m proudest of is rewriting the article Lee Harvey Oswald from scratch many years ago. For this, I have earned the lifelong ire of the JFK conspiracy crowd as The Guy Who Is Keeping The Truth Out of Wikipedia, and I’ve been the subject of many blog posts, web pages (one of which has my face next to a Nazi flag) and even radio shows from the conspiracy press. A prominent conspiracy author even alleged that I had connections to the conspirators. And more recently, there was GamerGate. I even had a Brietbart article written about me for merely suggesting that one (apparently well-connected, as it turns out) GG troll be blocked, for once again Keeping The Truth Out of Wikipedia. So you might say I’m overqualified in this respect. If nothing else, it’s strengthened my resolve to do what I can to prevent other editors from being the victims of this kind of harassment.
It can and it should. The Committee cannot set policy, but it can affirm that certain policies and principles should be enforced, setting an example for the rest of the community and empowering administrators and editors who are attacked for attempting to enforce such policies.
Thank you for running for the hardest and most thankless job on the project. Many of these questions are sourced from actual cases, discussions, and problems over the past year. Enjoy!
It appears that the issue here isn't who can come up with the best idea to deal with this, but getting consensus for an appropriate solution among either the committee or the community. Transferring it to the functionaries themselves doesn't seem like the right idea for reasons of transparency - functionaries investigating themselves seems like an idea designed to generate conspiracy theories - and if they aren't on board with the idea, it will only be dumping the responsibility for solving it on someone else.
I guess this is a moot point now that BASC is no more. Whatever the merits and drawbacks of specific subcommittees like BASC and AUSC, the subcommittee model is probably going to be the future of the Committee. There is always - and probably should be - resistance to more bureaucracy, but the workload has long been too large for an unstructured approach.
The key difference is whether an editor's violations affect the encyclopedia as a whole or they are limited to a particular topic, interactions with a particular editor or editors, or something else of smaller scope. The seriousness of the offence must be taken into consideration as well. For example, it would have been absurd to merely topic ban Wifione from articles about higher education in India. Many editors are perfectly capable of acting appropriately in most topic areas, but everyone has their bête noire, their bugbear, a topic or personality type that affects them to the point where they can't help but act inappropriately. I'm a firm believer in wikibreaks and walking away from overheated editing conflicts, and if people can't figure out when to do that on their own, in those situations it is in the best interests of those editors and the encyclopedia that we keep them away from those topics while allowing them to work productively on others.
I'm open to new approaches to this, but what we really need here is a commitment to the rules and principles that we have, from both the Committee and administrators, instead of constantly excusing and dismissing long-term problems in this area.
Yes, it probably does. Even if it does not, we should guard against it. The key is to view the roles of editor and administrator separately and judge a party's conduct by the standards of each.
Yes, I do, and I've logged several myself as Discretionary Sanctions. They can be useful to document cases of boundary pushing and other behavior that is part of a long-term pattern when the individual act isn't something that requires a ban or block. However, they should not be used to merely express the Committee's disagreement with actions taken by parties before them.
Yes. It's always useful to hash out potential solutions before they are formally voted on and doing it publicly is good for transparency. There should be clearer rules about participation and clerks should keep a lid on the worst of it; the workshop of the GamerGate case was a circus.
Yes. Can't say how successful I've been at it in the aggregate over the years, but I always try to resolve them in the best interests of the encyclopedia and all parties involved, even if those parties are determined to be unhappy about the situation. I also have a number of years of experience as a classroom teacher, so that sometimes helps.
Instead of providing a laundry list of disagreements, I will just say that I think most of the missteps that the Committee have made appear to come from a myopic focus on the suboptimal behavior of individual editors and an unwillingness to deal with systemic issues and to place those behaviors in a larger context. I also believe there is too much of a focus on procedure and legalistic policy hairsplitting, which is why you get decisions which seem reasonable when looking at them from strictly a policy perspective, but are viewed by non-Wikipedians as bizarre and inconsistent with normal human expectations.
I think we have a perfect example with the "question" below by Snowflakw and sundry. A legitimate inquiry into the background of a suspicious editor can be brought to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations or to a noticeboard. Hounding these users around the encyclopedia, plotting against them in off-wiki forums, and attempting to hijack a prominent on-wiki forum to attack them is harassment.
I am a straight male Hispanic able-bodied middle class citizen and resident of the United States.
The Committee, or any group, benefits from a variety of perspectives, and the perspective of a non-administrator would be valuable. Most Arbitrators and potential Arbitrators are long-term administrators like myself, and it's easy for us to forget what it's like to be a editor without the tools. For all its many, many flaws, RFA is an incredibly thorough vetting, so candidates who are not administrators have not been vetted as well as administrators have been.
Hi, and thank you for running for Arbcom. These questions focus on WP:OUTING. For the purposes of these questions please assume the editors' usernames are far more distinct and unique than the ones I have given.
The appropriate way to handle this would be to email the Committee; the Committee already regularly receives private and sensitive evidence that shouldn't be posted on Wikipedia. We should not allow outing on the encyclopedia, but we should also not encourage trolling by pretending these accounts aren't exactly what they are.
Why pretend this isn't about Lightbreather?
Outing is not appropriate. There needs to be a bright line here, to protect all Wikipedia editors. Outing is frequently presented with a high-minded justification, but there is seldom an appropriate justification for personalizing a dispute and bringing potential harm to a person in this matter, and condoning justifications for violating this policy only encourages others to violate it.
That said, this may be one of the few times. Usually outing is part of a campaign of harassment, but here a harassment victim was seeking assistance against her harasser. A harassment victim is, in most cases, completely on their own. It is shameful that in the last fifteen years neither Wikipedia nor the Wikimedia Foundation has developed any systematic means of dealing with this issue. The Committee can't help you, the Foundation won't help you, the police will ignore you, and getting a lawyer presents a significant financial obstacle. Given these circumstances, I could not in good conscience sanction an editor for seeking assistance against her harasser.
None of this, of course, has any bearing on whether or not this editor's other behavior justified a site ban.
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia, brand new user.
I have redacted your question because you used it to level a serious accusation against another editor, and I will not allow you to use this well-trafficked space to cast aspersions in this manner. If anyone thinks an editor is a sockpuppet of a banned user, the proper approach is to file a report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations.
As for the rest, here are some responses to the various questions you posed:
*I have no knowledge of what other users may have or have not said to one another about me or anything else, so I cannot attest to the accuracy of those statements. I doubt their accuracy because I hope that other administrators do not divulge what was said in private conversations with editors; certainly I will not do so, here or elsewhere.
*WP:WRONGVERSION
*I have no idea what Super Hero Taisen is, but I believe it may be some sort of "film", which is a series of images when shown rapidly in sequence creates the illusion of movement.
The banned user in question is Ryulong. I think it is in the best interests of both himself and the encyclopedia that he no longer concern himself with what happens on Wikipedia. I think Ryulong is a well-intentioned editor, but he has acted in very disruptive ways and should not be editing Wikipedia. If there are any editors who are proxy editing on his behalf, they should not do so, because they should adhere to policy and because they do Ryulong no favors by allowing him to remain attached to Wikipedia, when he really needs to make a clean break.
The real disruption currently is not some edit war on an obscure article. It's the sickening display of schadenfreude from Gamergate forums, which purposely and openly target articles that Ryulong is thought to have an attachment to. Not satisfied with him being banned for nearly a year, they seek to hound him until the end of his days, like the Furies tormenting Orestes. Since your account is part of that effort, I've blocked it as WP:NOTHERE.
I don't think there should be a rule against it. Voters are capable of judging a block log or past disciplinary action for themselves.
Obviously, I disagree. I believe that voters who have the best interests of Wikipedia in mind will know that whatever I do while serving on the Committee will also be with those best interests in mind, even if they disagree with my positions or choices. However people vote and for whatever reason they do so is on their conscience, not mine.
Well done on putting your name forward. My questions are on your election statement. I like the ideas, but the necessity of keeping election statements short means that your priorities are expressed perhaps more as vote-seeking sound bites than the detailed thoughts of a candidate for the subtle and demanding role of a Committee member. This is your opportunity to expand. SilkTork ✔Tea time 19:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Committee makes high-profile decisions that affect the entire encyclopedia, the Committee oversees the appropriate standards of behavior for administrators, and the Committee leads (or should lead) by example. We do not yet have a workable way to scale harassment training for 1,332 administrators. We can certainly manage it for fifteen people. It's all about using your resources where they will have the most impact.
Because the solutions of 2004 are not the solutions we need to deal with the problems of 2016. We have millions more articles and thousands more editors; the old way does not scale. Reducing the workload and shifting responsibilities elsewhere - noticeboards, administrators, etc. - is a good idea, but we shouldn't pretend the workload won't keep increasing as the encyclopedia and the community gets larger and larger.
Thank you for stepping forward; your commitment to serving the community is greatly appreciated.
Please accept my apologies for the lateness of these questions.
Many thanks in advance for any answers. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 15:30, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]