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The result was Keep. I think I can close this one early -- nom clearly didn't understand the subject's importance. Jacqui★ 20:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No indication of any notability in the article, no awards etc. Appears NN Spartaz 08:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Very well-known indie rock band, easily fulfills WP:MUSIC. See allmusic entry, Pitchfork review, etc. This band toured the country several times and was on the well-respected label Polyvinyl Records. It was Mike Kinsella's main project for several years after he left Cap'n Jazz and before he started recording as Owen (band). Please do some research before nominating obviously notable indie rock bands for deletion! Amazinglarry 18:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per larry. hateless 19:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep---What the heck? This is a well-known band! Like Amazinglarry said.Dan 07:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to add a little more info. American Football released 2 albums (an LP and an EP). Additionally, WP:MUSIC states pretty clearly that former bands containing members of later bands that are notable. Well, Owen (band) (Kinsella's solo project) has released 4 albums on Polyvinyl. Here's a reference from the Denver Westword (Source: Lexis-Nexis):
Copyright 2002 Denver Westword, LLC
Denver Westword (Colorado)
November 21, 2002 Thursday
SECTION: Music/Columns
LENGTH: 291 words
HEADLINE: Critic's Choice
Owen
BYLINE: By Jason Heller
BODY:
Nobody likes a whiner. And yet a whole troop of emo crybabies, from Dashboard Confessional's Chris
Carraba to Bright Eyes' Connor Oberst, has whimpered its way into the spotlight over the past couple
of years. Mike Kinsella, otherwise known as Owen (appearing Tuesday, November 26, at Club 156 in
Boulder), is at least partly to blame. As drummer of the mid-'90s Illinois group Cap'n Jazz, Kinsella
helped tame the wuss-rock frontier now populated by the likes of Modest Mouse and Jimmy Eat World.
The members of Cap'n Jazz, though, were always deconstructionists at heart, using feedback, caterwauls
and solipsistic wordplay to unravel their songs almost faster than they could stitch them together.
As Cap'n Jazz mutated into Joan of Arc and then OWLS, the players softened and refined their sound,
invoking the abstract groove of Tortoise and conceptual folk-blues as much as the cathartic abandon of
Rites of Spring. Kinsella himself ventured even further into the realm of accessibility with his side
project, American Football, a stunning exhibition of intricate, elegant guitar pop. With Owen,
Kinsella has switched to guitar and vocals, boiling down American Football's melodic sensibility
to its purest essence. His self-titled debut album shimmers with wispy synth backdrops, bashful
strumming and his dandelion-puff voice, a plaintive sound stuck somewhere between Rainer Maria and an
unplugged Coldplay. Songs with titles such as "Declaration of Incompetence," with lyrics like『I can't
do anything/I can't do my hair right/Or have a good time/Or fall asleep with my girl,』aren't going to
significantly distance Kinsella from the current herd of bleating emo troubadours. His finesse and
forbearance, though, already have.
LOAD-DATE: November 21, 2002
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