The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Highly advertorialized article about a band whose claims to passing WP:NMUSIC are not reliably sourced. As always, it's not the claim to passing NMUSIC that gets a band over NMUSIC, but the quality of the referencing that can be shown to properly support that the claim to passing NMUSIC is actually true -- but there are no sources being shown here at all, and the reason why notability claims have to be properly sourced to clinch an article is precisely that it's so easy to drown the notability claim in an avalanche of promotionalism exactly like this. Bearcat (talk) 01:30, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It was 'advertorial' because of the copyvio introduced in 2012. I have reverted to the pre-copyvio version and removed the speedy deletion tag - you really need to check article history before speedy deletion tagging for copyvio. There are sources out there, e.g. [1], [2], [3]. --Michig (talk) 06:28, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment : Because of the respect I happen to have for Michig's work, I checked again the sourcing, including searches for Patrice Boulianne, the lead musician and main person actually behind the band.
The subject of the contested article fails criteria #2 to #7 of WP:NBAND (single in the charts; gold recording; major award for record; work used in soundtracks or TV; heavy rotation in media; subject of substantial broladcast in mahor media). We are left with a search for sources.
WP:NBAND states the following : The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the ensemble notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. Someone simply talking about themselves does not automatically mean they have sufficient attention in the world at large to be notable. This excludes all interviews from being the main evidence for notability: Interviews can be used as sources for information, of course, but not as the sole or main evidence of notability.
Onwards to the sources then: Two of the sources provided by Michig are interviews with the frontman conducted by music websites, one here and another here. (There's another one here. More interviews are out there. All very interesting, for what it's worth, at least to my eyes.) The third source offered by Michig is a news item about the band winning the "Fan's Choice Entertainer of the Year" prize at the 2012 ECMA annual ceremony at the Casino New Brunswick, which I'm afraid does not establish the level of notability required by WP:NBAND.
I understand that the kind of music the band plays is not causing the kind of news waves that would provide the article with verifiablenotability but, then again, Wikipedia's policy about musicians' notability is shaped in a manner that excludes a great deal of musically worthy subjects. For this fan of zydeco and assorted stuff, it's an unfortunate state of affairs. Dura lex. -The Gnome (talk) 15:57, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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