The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
I have done my best to make Evan Davis(actor) more of a biography instead of a resume. I have also changed one of the links. Hope this helps. I do not believe Evan Davis (actor) deserves to be deleted. He has more than enough facts to prove his existence and merit in the entertainment industry. I am not a sock puppet, I am trying to help out an acting friend that I know. I am not the same person and will give out my name if needed. Wikipedia asked the original author to re-edit the article, then he was unable to do so. I was not aware of a rule that forbids authors knowing each other. Thank you GoldenMonkey78 (talk) 11:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is in regards to Evan Davis(actor), 12 Minutes to Heaven, Sofia Mendez. I am not a sock muppet, I was asked to edit these pages for Evan Davis, since he was told by an administrator he could not do and refuse to be called a meat puppet. I a fellow artist and do not believe these people should have their pages deleted or the film, because of my mistake. This is my first time on wikipedia, I apologize. We are trying to give Wikipedia facts not promotion. This has been a misunderstanding. Everything written on these pages is true and there are links to the sources. Thank you GoldenMonkey78 (talk) 12:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
When I signed up for Wikipedia I should have read the rules in depth. I apologize for the conusion. I changes my account from Evan2001 because I did not like the name I chose. I thought I deleted it, I never meant to give the impression I had more than one account.
GoldenMonkey78 is not a Sock puppet, this person does know me, but volunteered to edit my personal page. I would have ever posted on my own page had I known it was against the rules. I am simply an actor who is trying to post facts that I believe have artistic merit.Retrojew89 (talk) 12:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete regardless of the behaviour issues the subject fails our notability and verfiability guidelines. Though the article contains lots of "references" they are primary source, trivial, and/or non-reliable. Jasynnash2 (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Before you delete at least tell me how I can give you notability and verfiability. I have seen this actor live on stage, watched their films and they do exist and will eventually end up on Wikipedia whether it's today or in the future. However, the references I posted are not trivial and are reliable, they are the same reliability as other well known or up and coming artists. GoldenMonkey78 (talk) 12:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't Delete Evan Davis (actor) has IMDB credit for an award winning film Thumb Pow, which does match Wikipedia's guildlines for notability. He may not have all his credits on there yet, but is a working commercial actor that will end up on Wikipedia eventually if not today. You say YouTube doesn't count, but that is his fan base and I supplied you with more than one video, once of which has people imitating his performance in a play. He is notable.GoldenMonkey78 (talk) 14:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Further to my comments at your talkpage. I think you need to review the policies. Youtube, IMDB, and several others you are using at the moment do not constitute reliable sources, or comply to other policies and guidelines to which you have already been pointed. Jasynnash2 (talk) 14:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there are no reliable sources. Just so you're aware, GoldenMonkey78, IMDb is not considered reliable at all, as almost anyone can contribute without having their facts checked (this synopsis of the upcoming Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen movie is pure fan-fiction, and has been there for months! -- JediLofty UserTalk14:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete with a commenttoUser:Retrojew89, User:Evan2001, User:GoldenMonkey78... Let's put aside for the moment that you may all know each other and be editing to each other's benefit (meatpuppet) or might even be the same person (sockpuppet). Let's ignore that for just a moment. There is no specific rule that authors cannot know each other or write about each other, however WP:COI states that such relationships should be declared when making those edits BLP describes how every statement in a biography must be well sourced... and there are further guidelines on how these edits must be done. All that aside.... the crux of the entire matter which brought this "relationship" to light is simply that the Evan Davis article, the 12 Minutes to Heaven article, and the Sofia Mendez article do not show notability in a manner accepted by Wikipedia. You have been unable to show even a minor notabilty per Wiki policies and guidelines. The articles as presented to AfD will likely not survive for just that reason. The various puppet cases now are a different (though related) matter and may result in these usernames being either temporarily or pemamently blocked. The place for the Evan Davis article about himself would have been his personal user page. The place for the film's article as it was being developed would have been his user sandbox. You might think about moving them there while still able. No promise that they will survive there, but if you are not blocked, you'll have them in a workspce... and if you are blocked temporarily, they'll be waiting. Schmidt,MICHAEL Q.18:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteNoreliable sources, and no evidence of anything, even in the sources given, that would satisfy WP:NorWP:ENTERTAINER. The fact that the actor has one IMDB credit is completely non-notable; I have two IMDB credits myself (for feature films I've had supporting roles in)[1], and I'm under no delusions that I'm notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article! References to YouTube, FunnyOrDie, etc., likewise non-notable. Note to User:GoldenMonkey78: You may very well be right that he "will end up on Wikipedia eventually", but he's clearly nowhere near notable to be on Wikipedia now. Articles aren't added to Wikipedia about things that people anticipate may become notable in the future. --Smeazel (talk) 21:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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