Category:Church buildings established in the 19th century[edit]
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Comment. Buildings is not redundant since church is also used for congregations. If there is consensus to rename this without buildings, then prior to the rename all of the congregation subcategories and articles will need to be removed to minimize the ambiguity. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support The point is that these cannot be seperated, as building and congregation share the same articles. As often pointed out before, the American examples typically have lots on the contregation, whereas eg French & Italian ones deal mainly with the buildings; the UK is variable. For European ones, especially the older examples, "established" is often plain wrong, as an older building was replaced. So this is a move in the right direction. Johnbod (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Television series shot in High Definition[edit]
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Unnecessary, because eventually nearly all television shows will be shot in high definition within the next year or few and the category will overfill.
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Category:When a Stranger Calls (film series)[edit]
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Further comment: I listed these seven discussions separately on the off chance that some editors may feel that the categories for different franchises may have different issues so as to avoid possibly bogging down a mass nomination in "keep these three, delete those two, merge this one" types of !votes. If the community feels that these can all be discussed as a mass nomination then I have no objection to merging all of these nominations into one. Harley Hudson (talk) 17:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Query – why does the nom not suggest an upmerge to the parents rather than 'delete'? Are these films not 'Slasher films' or 'Serial killer films'? Occuli (talk) 20:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:I Know What You Did Last Summer series[edit]
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Support. Some recategorisation & changes in head categories would have to follow, but this would be an improvement in clarity. (As there is already a category:Arab World, I have added a merger of this into your nomination.) - Fayenatic(talk)20:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, suggest new name to possibly be Category:Arabs if need be, since there is really nothing grammatically wrong with the name of this category, and since if the nominator were truly concerned with "grammatical correctness" he should have maybe suggested that this category be fixed and renamed as Category:Arabs, because "Arab people" is redundant and bad English, since nobody calls them that, they are known simply as "Arabs" (in the plural, or "Arab" in the singular and also in the grand singular as in Arab language) and Arab world refers to modern-day countries connected to politics. IZAK (talk) 07:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This issue was discussed very extensively over Category:African American, & this is how we decided to do it; there are many similar name forms. There is nothing in the least "ungrammatical" about it. Category:Arabs or "A people" should be the head biographical category. Johnbod (talk) 10:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I now see that this has precedents like Category:African American and Category:Slavic, both in using an adjective as the category name, and in being an "ethnic group of X continent/region" category. Given that understanding, I am inclined to change my mind to "keep and repurpose". The existing stated purpose is not appropriate, as it relates instead to Category:Arab people (orCategory:Arabs if that redirect should get reversed -- but let's leave that out of the scope of this CFD). What should replace that purpose as an explanation of the scope of this category? And should Category:Arab be a head cat or sub-cat of Category:Arab World? - Fayenatic(talk)18:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It should keep its current contents that do not belong within one of those, but also any categories that go wider than the Arab world (even if, in some cases, they might also belong within category:Arab world) e.g. Arab culture, Arab diaspora, Arabic language, Arabic studies (that's a new one). Have a look at the links above for Slavic and African American. There is scope for someone to make a project of tidying it up, e.g. proposing a merger of Category:Arab communities outside of Arab League into Category:Arab diaspora. - Fayenatic(talk)19:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Another category that would probably exist as a seperate sub-section is Category:Arab groups. I would also question the redirect of Category:Arab tribestoCategory:Tribes of Arabia. Arabia is a specific geographical area roughly equivalent to the peninsula between the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, but maybe stretching northward into the Syrian Desert. There are Arab tribes that have lived for over a thousand years in parts of North Africa. Should Category:Arabic be another sub-category of this?John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: As creator, I have no problem with this. I used this name simply because there was no reason to disambiguate. Unless someone beats me to it (I have sleep, then work, approaching) I'll switch everything over when I have some time. — Huntster (t@c)07:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Businesses named after Edward Lloyd[edit]
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Keep too, interesting stuff, not found anywhere else on wp. If you were suggesting listify it may be a different issue. Bienfuxia (talk) 04:04, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Many things are "interesting" but nonetheless are not appropriate for categories per the guidelines. You haven't really provided a reason why the guideline should be ignored in this specific case. The information could easily be listifed and added to Edward Lloyd (coffeehouse owner), and I would not object to such a close. Good Ol’factory(talk)05:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Christ the effing "guidelines" again. I wouldn't object to it being listified, added to the main article, of course, as have said above. Let's leave it at that. Bienfuxia (talk) 11:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete at least in regard to the German companies listed. Per Duden: Lloyd in German is a name for maritime insurance and shipping companies originating from Lloyd's coffee house. Therefore „businesses named after ...“ is incorrect, however „businesses named Lloyd“ would be correct. See: Duden online (German)Traveletti (talk) 07:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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