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Merge per nom. The by interest category covers the ideological content of the propaganda. This could be easily covered as its topic. Dimadick (talk) 10:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Providence Public School District superintendents[edit]
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Category:WikiProject Christianity user boxes[edit]
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The result of the discussion was:keep all except for Lakewood Township and Matawan, which will be upmerged as nominated due to size. bibliomaniac1519:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- @BrownHairedGirl:Where is it stated that the maximum size for WP:SMALLCAT is 5? Also, none of these are likely to be expanded as the trend has been to delete articles about mayors that are not otherwise notable. I put a few of the articles in these categories up for deletion at AFD.--Rusf10 (talk) 16:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That number isn't codified, but it is the threshold usually applied by editors in CGD discussions. As to possible deletions, CFD is not the place to discuss notability. WP:AFD is thataway. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 20:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not arguing notability here. My point is that given the trend with these type of articles, the categories are more likely to shrink than expand.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Question: @BrownHairedGirl: and @Djflem:, would you be opposed to an upmerge of Ridgefield and Verona, each with three articles? Or is it worth keeping them for the sake of potentially meeting the threshold of WP:SMALLCAT and not losing the histories of those categories? bibliomaniac1519:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would oppose, tho not strongly. Both are towns of over 10,000 people, and in the US that sort of size of place tends to be well-covered, so there is a reasonable expectation of expansion. My concerns is not the history of the categories (which is trivial), but rather that the more stuff that is dumped into the 200-strong list at Category:Mayors of places in New Jersey, the harder it is to find anything there, and the harder it is to subcat it. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 01:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American schoolteachers by location[edit]
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The issue which Rathfelder raises is common to all of the US-topics-by-location categories, and it is inconsistently resolved. My preferred solution would be to create a by-location category in each case, with by state as a subcat. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 17:21, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keeporalt rename to Category:American schoolteachers by state or territory. Until categories for Washington D.C., Puerto Rico etc. are not immediately reverted when they are placed (even with a distinct sortkey such as +) in a geographic diffusion category called by state, we should not use this problematic terminology. (example of such a revert) I don't know if the problem is the reverts or the name of these categories, but there is a problem. Place Clichy (talk) 18:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, the problem with "by state or territory" is that if read pedantically it excludes Washington DC, just as『by state』excludes DC. So sometimes DC is included in such a category for navigational convenience, and other times it is removed by a pedant. Both the pedantic and convenience approaches have reasonable justifications, so we need a solution which bypasses that debate. So far,『by location』seems to me to be the only clearly inclusive solution. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 10:41, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In this discussion I am definitely in favor of convenience and I think it would be sad to create "by state" categories and remove territories from these "by state" categories if in practice they are of the same level. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I also favour convenience, but if other editors don't share that view, then we just find the pages being removed from the category, which is the least convenient outcome of all. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 14:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The pedantic approach is not reasonable. The principle at stake here is diffusion of categories. When this diffusion is justified (you probably wouldn't want all the state categories at the root of American schoolteachers) and the principle of this diffusion is geography, there is simply no good reason to leave out Washington D.C., Guam etc. "DC is not a state" is no good reason, and e.g. a + sortkey is a perfect way to show for it. If we want to fight pedantism with pedantism, we should name such categories ...by state or territory or insular area or Washington D.C. or else ...by first-level subdivision. The trouble imho with by location is that it also applies to by city, by county, by region... categories when they exist. Place Clichy (talk) 07:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Victorian-era submarines of the United States[edit]
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Perhaps RenametoCategory:19th century submarines of the United States, etc. The use of Victorian is inappropriate. The relevant period for America is pre-Civil War / Civil War to WWI; for Germany Confederation / Empire. No objection to merging but I thought an alternative target might be offered. The difference between my target and the subject is the odd year after 1900, which is hardly significant. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to 19th-century per Peterkingiron (but hyphenate the century adjective). If not, Double merge for the first one at least, to Category:Victorian-era submarines, which already contains non-British Empire members directly, and should probably be nominated for renaming to 19th-century. – FayenaticLondon21:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Miami-Dade County Public Schools teachers[edit]
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Delete an "about" category, without an object view of how much "about" the subject must be and what reliable sources tell us it's at least that much. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 04:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That might be a reason to delete all "about" categories, however it is not a reason to remove content from those trees at random just because they happen to be discussed at CFD. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Documentaries about same-sex marriage[edit]
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Delete an "about" category, without an object view of how much "about" the subject must be and what reliable sources tell us it's at least that much. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 04:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That might be a reason to delete all "about" categories, however it is not a reason to remove content from those trees at random just because they happen to be discussed at CFD. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete an "about" category, without an object view of how much "about" the subject must be and what reliable sources tell us it's at least that much. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 04:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That might be a reason to delete all "about" categories, however it is not a reason to remove content from those trees at random just because they happen to be discussed at CFD. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Marcocapelle's suggestions make sense; economical in my mind means "thrifty" or "low priced", not anything having to do with the "economics" as a subject but that may be different on the other side of the pond. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Things named after Nursultan Nazarbayev[edit]
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The result of the discussion was:delete. The category contents will be posted on the talk page in case anyone wants to listify. bibliomaniac1502:33, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was about to defend the JFK category for containing actual purpose built memorials not just random things named after him ... but then I clicked on the category. All the street names and high schools in that category are not fine. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all Being named after these people is often the only reason the subjects are remotly notable. Many things such as the titles named after Julius Caesar have long histories and interesting emtologies.★Trekker (talk) 16:38, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all (and if something does not belong, just fix it). I don't see WP:SHAREDNAME to be about these types of categories but as UnitedStatesian pointed above, a random name, such as "Chris". Having an easy to search and navigate category system is beneficial for the project. --Gonnym (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
SHAREDNAME includes "Avoid categorising ... by characteristics of the name rather than the subject itself." and includes the example of Churches named for St. Dunstan. Many such categories have been deleted (example). Name-based characteristics are also non-defining in all/most cases. Categorizing things by their name would open up all sorts of issues such as things that are renamed or have multiple names. DexDor(talk)18:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Germany's Sports Hall of Fame inductees[edit]
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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 18#Category:Urban animals
