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Nominator's rationale: Not sure why we even have this, it seems to be an extension of the POV issues plaguing Mr. Gyurcsány here and it also seems to curiously exclude Fizdez, his primary opposition. Allan Nonymous (talk) 22:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Some of the political parties listed here have nearly 40 years of history. Some of the members were probably not even alive during Gyurcsány's term in office. Not a useful categorization for parties. Dimadick (talk) 14:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Allan Nonymous what do you think as nom? You might not have seen this. There could be a reason for having both, having neither, or having one but not the other. Technically speaking, Gyurcsány has been in "opposition" to Orbán since 2010, and since 2022 the opposition leader, so if we mean formal parliamentary opposition, the scope of the Category:Opposition to Ferenc Gyurcsány should be limited to 2004 to 2009, while Category:Opposition to Viktor Orbán could be scoped to 1998-2002 and 2010-present. Then again, maybe we should call it "Opposition to the Orban Government(s)" or something instead of『to Viktor Orbán』personally. NLeeuw (talk) 07:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is a fair point I can agree with. As I said, There could be a reason for having both, having neither, or having one but not the other. I'm not saying we should treat them equally (Orban is in a much more authoritarian position than Gyurcsány ever was), but I do think we should compare the two categories, and then make a decision. NLeeuw (talk) 20:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Native American characters in video games[edit]
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Delete as duplicative, as nom states. Nothing lost in deletion anyways, as there were many instances of the newer version being wrongly or poorly implemented anyways. (Many DEFINING violations.) Sergecross73msg me21:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But that's just it. How often is a game's non-protagonist side character's race going to be an DEFINING trait of a game on a whole? And as ferret notes, it doesn't make sense that your category is framed as about characters but was mostly applied to video game articles, not character articles. Sergecross73msg me21:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that in some games the Native American character plays a (very) minor role, while in others they are an important part of the story and gaming experience. If their role is too minor then they can be removed from the category. For example in the Red Dead Redemption games and Red Dead Revolver, the Native American characters play a significant role in the storyline, but they aren't protagonists. As in defining, well the interaction between the cowboys and Native Americans is an essential part of the main story and activities. -Artanisen (talk) 22:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The counter-argument categories are populated with characters. This one is populated with video games, except for one (Nightwolf), who is in the duplicative category already. -- ferret (talk) 23:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I put Nightwolf in "Native American characters in video games", because he's an important character in Mortal Kombat, but not a protagonist. Other characters are described in the articles of the video games. If necessary more information can be added about the characters. This game Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, the title of the game "Guardian of Light" refers to the Mayan warrior named Totec. Totec is playable in cooperative play. So Totec is one of the most important characters in this game together with Lara Croft. In Shadow Hearts: From the New World, the protagonist is Johnny Garland, while Shania is his female counterpart. Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2, each have a couple of important native American characters. Without these characters the story wouldn't work. - Artanisen (talk) 09:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - when I first read this category title, I thought it was for Native American characters who debuted in video games, not for video games with Native American characters. Maybe the category could just be redefined. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Note that Category:Fictional Native American people in video games already exists for categorizing characters (not necessarily the games they are part of), although note hatnote that this category is for A) American Indians in the United States, and B) Is not for fictional characters merely "coded" with some American Indian attributes. I suspect that this category might be a better use of what the category creator intended. SnowFire (talk) 15:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Category:Fictional Native American people in video games has a lot of overlap with this category. Usually the term "character" is used for video game characters instead of "Fictional people". Native American usually refers to indigenous people from the USA. It could also be used as a broader term for indigenous people from the Americas (North, Central and South America). - Artanisen (talk) 17:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of Indian civil awards and decorations[edit]
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Category:Recipients of the Sahitya Akademi Fellowship[edit]
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Category:People associated with identity politics[edit]
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Category:Israel Prize in translation recipients[edit]
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Category:Recipients of the Padma Shri in literature & education[edit]
Category:16th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Africa[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: There's not enough content to justify this level of diffusion. Please be aware that the IP making all of these requests is being extremely disruptive on CFD. And is evading their blockMason (talk) 15:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Define what's "not enough content". There are many churches in the oldest former colonies which date back to the 17th or 16th century. Meanwhile @Samasongarrison please clarify your point about IP being disruptive. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 12:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Portuguese Macau[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: This seems anachronistic. These forts were not "in the United States" when they were built and only became so later on. User:Namiba02:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment if these forts still existed at the time that the USA took over the territory, then they are correct. Such as many forts acquired in the Louisiana Purchase. Or any ruins/museums that still exist today -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not only a proposed renaming but also an extension of scope; forts in New France that were not in provinces which became the United States will be covered as a result. 61.244.93.97 (talk) 09:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mild oppose. Try as I might, I just don't see the issue with the status quo. Categories don't need to be rigidly synchronic. Classifying by present-day geography adds value for readers and editors, and the proposed rename/consolidation would lose information. No particular objection to renaming to Category:Former French forts in the United States etc. as suggested above, but I would note that this would not work for the North America cat since one of these sites is still in France. If the issue is that "French forts" could be genuinely confusing to some readers who would expect the category to contain modern-day French military facilities, maybe something like Category:Sites of French forts in the United States could work. But again, I don't really see a need to disturb the status quo. -- Visviva (talk) 01:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose. Sint Maarten and Curaçao are not part of the Netherlands. For the BES islands merge the categories to one named Caribbean Netherlands instead so that they are subcategorized under both the Netherlands and the Caribbean categories. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 08:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When you use terms that may not be common knowledge, please link them, e.g. BES islands and CAS islands.
Sorry if IYHO it doesn't sound nice to use Dutch Caribbean, but setting up a separate sub-hierarchy for Caribbean Netherlands would require many perpetually small categories. The best hierarchy we have is Dutch Caribbean. – FayenaticLondon17:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm no expert on the history or current politics, I'm just looking at how our categories are structured at the moment. Would you support a split of the whole Dutch Caribbean hierarchy? If so, I suggest you make a nomination to split some representative categories at the top levels. But until that has happened, the tiny sub-topic of medical schools should follow the existing hierarchy. – FayenaticLondon21:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Category:Medical schools in Sint Maarten and keep it under Category:Medical schools in the Caribbean and Category:Medical schools by country (along with Category:Medical schools in Curaçao and Category:Medical schools in Aruba). Group medical schools of the BES islands under Caribbean Netherlands and keep them under both Category:Medical schools in the Caribbean and Category:Medical schools in the Netherlands. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 16:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Fix the spelling and Caribbean Netherlands (mnemonic: it's named after the Carib people) comprises the BES islands.
Just as obiter dictum, should Category:Dutch Caribbean be kept just to hold a small number of subcategories and topics that are common to both BES and CAS (or ABC and SSS)? 46.229.243.187 (talk) 12:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's "non-existence" yet it's a good collective term to refer to these special municipalities altogether. It's somehow like referring to an additional province although they aren't. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 12:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A category for medical schools in the Caribbean Netherlands would be too small, as there are only 2 members in the current cats for Bonaire and Saba. If there is no consensus to merging to the intermediate level Dutch Caribbean, then revert to my original merge proposal, but omit the Netherlands category in the case of Sint Maarten. – FayenaticLondon15:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as amended. This will avoid unhelpful small cats with minimal information loss. The points raised above about the Category:Dutch Caribbean nomenclature are important, but those issues aren't going to be resolved here. As long as that category hierarchy is in use it should be used consistently. -- Visviva (talk) 01:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Citizens of Hungary through descent[edit]
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Category:Taxa named by Baron Cajetan von Felder[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: Merge to Transgender and medicine. This category is a based on the ICD-11 equivalent of Gender dysphoria, and is a odd carve out of the parent category. If not merged, I think it should be renamed to Gender dysphoria because the bulk of the actual contents are about dysphoria, not incongruence. Mason (talk) 00:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge for now per nom. It is indeed an odd mixture. As nom says, gender incongruence is a redirect to a section in ICD-11, where it is called a synonymofgender dysphoria, but the article causes of gender incongruence claims it is the cause of gender dysphoria. At any rate, it's irregular to have a "causes of X" article if there is no main article of the same name. It also supports upmerging to a category where at least the article gender dysphoria itself can be found. NLeeuw (talk) 06:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 16#Category:Recipients of Indian civil awards and decorations
NLeeuw (talk) 14:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
