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Support. Sometimes it is reasonable for subcat's name to include a parent-cat's name, since cat-names are often displayed by themselves rather than in a hierarchy or bread-crumb chain. But the word "chemical" is redundant or implicit/obvious here, since that's the only kind of "reactions of ethers" we seem to have. No need to be too verbose. DMacks (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional elementary school students[edit]
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I honestly do not consider it a particularly notable trait, with the exception of works which have a specific school setting. I have come across several child characters who are nearly always depicted during their free time for school or during their vacations. Nearly all of The Famous Five series takes place while the nominal school children are vacationing. Dimadick (talk) 10:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Faculty by university or college in North America[edit]
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Support North America rename, as long the faculty stays the term for the US (per localization or whatever the term is for using the local term). Mason (talk) 01:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Extremely small category. In theory upmerge for now, but the only page is already in Characters in Greek mythology Mason (talk) 04:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But this category is broader than Ancient Greece, it says "Category:Mythological nurses", not "Category:Mythological nurses in Ancient Greece". If it stays, it should be renamed to nursemaids or wetnurses or something to that effect. Mason (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be in favour of renaming the category to "Nurses in Greek mythology" (or similar), and recategorising it accordingly, but I still think "nurses" is preferable to "nursemaids" or "wet-nurses", per my comment below. – Michael Aurel (talk) 03:27, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we keep this category then I suppose that would be a better name, although I do think the term "nurse' would probably apply in any ancient context. Paul August☎01:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are numerous examples of such figures in Greek mythology, and "nurse" seems to be the term sources use most frequently to describe them. For instance, see Gantz's Early Greek Myth, Hard's Routledge Handbook of Greek Mythology, or Grimal's Dictionary of Classical Mythology, which all use "nurse" much more than they do "wet-nurse" or "nursemaid". – Michael Aurel (talk) 02:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a valid category with value to readers. As Paul August and Michael Aurel have already pointed out, these persons are usually referred to simply as "nurses". The modern distinction is not generally applied to mythological occurrences, and there is little reason to suppose there would be confusion over that. P Aculeius (talk) 11:31, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tajikistani people by occupation and location[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining use of "king" per category description: "A category of Silla monarchs who used "king" as the regnal title." The category creator has made a lot of these kinds of category, despite warnings. Mason (talk) 05:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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At least delete the students category. Students categories are mainly useful if most of the subjects are only known as someone's student without notable works of their own. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep Useful category for one of the founders of modern Southeast Asian linguistic studies. Helps with navigation and is useful for readers browsing through linguistics categories and articles. Lingnanhua (talk) 22:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For browsing through linguistics categories and articles we have the tree of Category:Linguistics so that is not a good argument. Category:James Matisoff is supposed to be about James Matisoff's life but it seems that the article suffices for that. Support whole nomination now that I am looking into this in more detail. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Only has one category layer which, in turn, has people already listed as descended from constitutent countries within the Soviet Union. Delete both. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:31, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete people of Soviet descent. Keep Israeli people of Soviet descent. As we've recently said elsewhere regarding Ukraine, regime is not usually defining, while nationality is. However, in the particular case of the Soviet Union and Israel, the intersection was culturally significant and has remained so in the descendents of those who escaped from the USSR to Israel. Jahaza (talk) 04:25, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Israeli people of Soviet descent? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk16:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Jewish/Israeli is hardly a major issue here, as there will be few Arabs/Palestinians who would qualify. However there has been a large exodus of Jews from the ex-USSR. Saying they were of Russian descent (or other split) might give us difficulties. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Parent categories are Category:Jewish names and Category:Jewish families. Main article is Jewish surnames. There is no such thing as a surname of Jewish origin. These are names adopted by Jewish people via assimilation or which they were forced to adopt in exchange for freedom and, hence, have a VERY diverse origin. The previous form "Jewish surnames" is a better description of the contents of this category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:04, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Qwerfjkl, I don't remember commenting on that one but I have and I completely forgot about it! Is opening a Cfd on a previously discussed category is not allowed/frowned upon? Asking so I can be more careful in the future. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Omnis Scientia It depends. In this case the previous discussion was closed as no consensus, so it could be okay, just make sure to avoid a rehash of the previous discussion e.g. by including counterpoints. Qwerfjkltalk17:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"of Jewish origin" is a lot more informative. For illustration, I think that Adler (surname) should be purged because while this surname may have been used by some Jews it is not an original Jewish name. On the other hand names rooted in the Hebrew Bible may surely be kept. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping/non-defining category. These are all school-related things, but it's unclear to me how they really differ. Full disclosure, this category was original just in Category:educational buildings, but it contained lots of non-buildings, so I moved it up a level. Mason (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was actually originally in Category:Education, though it's been 16 years so I don't remember exactly what pages were put into it at the time. I imagine I intended it to include pages for educational areas or units that were not in themselves buildings.
As such, being moved to Category:Educational buildings was probably not a good idea. I'm also not sure what "Educational environment" designates. Why not just put it up in Category:Education where it was originally?
Merge per nom and no objection to include the target in the nomination for further upmerge. It is very unclear what these categories are about. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Uzbekistani people by occupation and location[edit]
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Support Merge/Delete per Seawolf35. (If that doesn't have consensus support original nom.) Either way, the category doesn't add value with the current contents. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment some of these are buildings instead of rooms. The category is non-def because it contains both rooms and buildings, but as such, cannot be directly merged into ‹The templateCat is being considered for merging.›Category:Rooms, as there are buildings in the category. It will need to be a selective merge, and some will need to be merged into the buildings category tree instead -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marine fauna researchers of the Gulf of California[edit]
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Yes, feel free to ping for an explanation of any of them. I cast a broad net for any Crisman topics. I did not post here because I have no strong opinions about retaining or deleting the category. Crisman is 1/3 of the "three tramps" in JKF conspiracies, he made the first "men in black" report, and he's mentioned in that Twin Peaks book 70+ times as a semi-fictional antagonist. Rjjiii (talk) 02:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I basically agree with Rjjiii -- Crisman is deeply associated with the articles that are currently in the category. I tend to think the category has utility, but I'm not an expert in our standards for category inclusion and will yield to wiser minds. Feoffer (talk) 03:08, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then the articles need improvement. Men in Black needs to mention more about Maury Island, for example. Crisman IS a major character in the both books in the category. Sturgis and Hunt need to justify inclusion or be removed from Cat. Feoffer (talk) 07:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, he was widely accused of being the tramp. There's no good reason to think he was the Tramp, of course, but it's a historical fact that he was accused of it. Feoffer (talk) 07:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:20th-century Soviet television series debuts[edit]
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Category:Microscopic discoveries by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: This category is being used incorrectly. This is for when the discovery was, not what the period from which the discovery was found Mason (talk) 05:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in each of these categories, and it's unhelpful for navigation at this time. For each category, I tried to find additional members. Mason (talk) 01:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional support per nom. This only works properly if older categories are nominated too, e.g. [[:Category:16th-century Vietnamese historians}}. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Single-article Malacologists by nationality categories[edit]
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Support merge for now. I'd be happy to see these categories grow enough to become needed, but until then upmerge for now. Mason (talk) 02:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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