The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Delete Almost a CSD repost issue. MBisanztalk 04:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (possibly speedy) per nom. If anything, this is even less useful than Template:The Guestbook Barnstar, since this is intended for use by a single user only. Black Falcon(Talk) 04:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm not the only one to have their own barnstar on a sub page so I can transclude it on other users talk page. Why have you people got a problem with it? Why worry about deleting a barnstar on a page that is no harm to anyone? It is simply a pre-made barnstar that I can include on talk pages instead of typing one out on there and then. Some users have sub pages less useful than this. I find it useful, alot of other users do to! wwesockssign 05:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Go the debate I linked to, and read the reasons given by editors. You should address those reasons here --Enric Naval (talk) 05:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep. It's in the userspace and it's doubtful that it will encourage other people to use it, which was one of the big concerns from the other discussion. The main reason I'm supporting keep is for fear of a slippery slope regarding how users manage their own subpages. It's really not uncommon for users to have templates in their userspace for messages that they (and only they) use, and would be seemingly useless to any other editor. I could have a subpage that is nothing more than some letter combo because one key on my keyboard is broken, and I really doubt anyone would care. It could be for even more trivial functions. If this is deleted I'd be tempted to offer to help (with what little understanding of Javasript I have) Wwesocks make a button that will do the same thing.
It's stupid, yes, but so what? We've done a lot of stuff with MfDs and userpage guidelines and policy to help keep these pages mostly-relevant, and maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't feel the need to cram this down the throat of every user who steps into the grey line. -- Ned Scott 06:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How does this do "good"? -Halo (talk) 16:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - causes pretty severe barnstar inflation. A barnstar given out for something that would take me about 10 seconds to do is probably redeemable for one Zimbabwean dollar. By the same logic I should get one for every vandalism reversion, one for every (vanity page|unlicensed image|crappy PDF) I tag for deletion, 30 for each spam bust and about 1800 for that piece I wrote in this week's Signpost. MER-C 12:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's also a barnstar that is not reusable for other guestbooks. Imagine having a different template barnstar for every guestbook. And making a customizable barnstar with a parameter for the guestbook page would just make us go to the same problem as the other barnstar: too easy to copy and use and encourages behaviour we don't want to have encouraged. --Enric Naval (talk) 12:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete - I fundamentally dislike barnstars as it is, let alone ones that are given for activities without any merit and that encourage spamming and WP:MYSPACE-like activities. -Halo (talk) 16:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because some of us don't get many barnstars. Ever. And this makes people feel good.DarkestMoonlight (talk) 13:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
