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March 1[edit]

  • Keep, long after our special banner is gone off our home page, someone will wonder what our one-millionth article was. This redirect should be kept and should eihter point to the "Jordanhill railway station" article, as it does now, or to the press release pertaining to hitting the milestone. Johntex\talk 05:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Johntex. KILO-LIMA 18:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:SELF Ziggurat 19:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, or if its kept, I am going to make redirects from favorite pizza toppingtoanchovi to save myself time. It doesn't matter that you find this useful or if its convenient. Millionth article isn't an alternate name for that railway station. The article doesn't even mention that it is the millionth, so why should we have a redirect for it. That will, at the least, confuse people and, worse, it violates wp:self. BrokenSegue 23:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment whether the article mentions its one-millionth status is a question of when you look at the article. Opinion is split about 60-40 against mentioning at the moment - this is likely to drift the other way as media mentions start coming in. Johntex\talk 03:51, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, concur with CesarB and BrokenSegue. An article on Wikipedia facts/stats can state this milestone and identify the one millionth article. But a redirect is useless in the long run. P199 19:29, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, no encyclopedic value. Pavel Vozenilek 19:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, same as One million articles. Add a link in Wikipedia if you think it's merited. A self-referencing redirect certainly is not. —Cryptic (talk) 15:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per self-referential --Grocer 17:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree that "One Millionth Article" is not the name of the station, but in no way is it harmful to the article itself (nor de-encyclopedifying) to have a redirect to that page. If we were to add in a notice on that page, I would object, because it is irrelevant to the railway station that it was wikipedia's 1,000,000th article. It's a way for wikinerds to refer themselves to this milestone article. By the way, I gleaned WP:SELF and I'm not sure how that applies to this case. Could someone explain briefly how that affects what we're dealing with? Clarkefreak 23:25, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for a couple of weeks , while we're in the news, in case some clueless user types it into the search box, then delete. Zocky | picture popups 13:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Cryptic. Chick Bowen 18:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep I like it.--God Ω War 22:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. I understand this policy of cross-namespace redirects, but I feel it's being applied irrationally. We all need a little common sense ... Rollback feature clearly applies only to Wikipedia:Rollback feature, and this redirect only makes it easier on new users to find information on a topic they don't understand. I feel that redirects that link one topic to another clearly related topic and that make finding information on that topic easier should be kept. AmiDaniel 08:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Ameno-KoyameAme-no-Koyane
  • Talk:Ameno-KoyameTalk:Ame-no-Koyane
    • Delete all. Unlikely occur. --Aphaia 11:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 2[edit]

    Question: Can you show me where this was decided? Sorry if I have restarted this issue. --Fang Aili
    Where what was decided? No-self reference? That has been policy for as long as I can remember. See WP:SELF. Also, Wikipedia:Redirect says that a redirect should be deleted if "It is a cross-space redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace." This issue has never been controversial there is nothing to start. The policy is pritty cut and dry (at least, I hope you don't start some thing, it'd annoy me if yet another policy that I agree came under attack). BrokenSegue 01:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Wow, ok. I was just asking. I was not familiar with that policy. --Fang Aili 14:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Strong Keep and Strongest Objection. That redirect does no harm in anyway that I can see. I don´t think that any article is going to be written with that title. It is quite usefull and easy to use (a official goal of Wikipedia) for new and old users. I also object how the whole matter is being dealt by over-eager users. You listed that re-direct in this list, that is true (see below), but as two users showed that they did not agree, you simply ignored their view and deleted the re-direct anyway. This is not a shootinglist where someone announces that he going to kill a wild animal and then does it regardless of everything. This is place where someone asks for the opinion of other users and tries to reach a agreement. Therefore I must most strongly object the deletion of this redirect and also your behaviour. Flamarande 18:30, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Strong Keep and Strong Objection. What that guy said. ^^^^^^^ Recon0 20:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    See above ^^^ Dtm142 01:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment. This might be an instance of WP:IAR. There's at least one precedent for it: List of admins redirects to Wikipedia:List of administrators. --Fang Aili 19:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I'm afraid its an instance of people not understanding the rules. (The List of admins link is wrong as well) In Wikipedia:Redirect ona t the top of this page it is made clear that such redirects (no matter how convenient) are to be deleted. The users who are voting here don't understand this policy. As to Flamarande's comments I say AGF. I did nothing of the sort. I didn't even delete this template (and I deleted nothing after listing them here as you suggested). So I have no idea what you are talking about. Also note that two other respected admins (Tony Sidaway and Pathoschild) speedied this redirect (they were right to do so), but to clear it for users who don't understand the policy on inter-namespace redirects I listed them here. I am not here to destroy your userboxes *sheesh* this isn't a conspiracy. Cross-namespace redirect = bad and have always been that way. We're only having this conversation because it's about userboxes. I fear mentioning this, but a few clicks down the page you will find the uncontrovertial nomination of Rollback feature. If you want a quick way to acess the userboxes page use the WP shortcuts (WP:UB). BrokenSegue 21:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    First I have to apolagize to Broken. I confused him with the administrator who deleted the redirects whithout following proper channels and also imediatly put a deletedpages on it (see the talpages). I am sorry. But there a lawfull exceptions to rule mentioned above which (in my opinion) also apply to these case. Flamarande 18:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    You seem to think that it falls under: "*5. It is a cross-space redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace."
    I can certainly understand that, but fact is that these redirects also fall under: However, avoid deleting such redirects if:"*3. They aid searches on certain terms." and "*5. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful — this is not because the other person is a liar, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways."
  • Strong Keep the policy on no self-references does not mean that no search term or redirect can point to an article about Wikipedia. The policy is meant to prevent *useless* self-references, such as "This Wikipedia article is about Cats" at the top of the Cat article. Johntex\talk 03:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep I can see no wrong with this redirect. I helps the WikiUser and does no harm. I can only ask you to explain us what harm is done by that redirect. Flamarande 18:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Those who voted keep, see BrokenSegue's rationale at Talk:Userboxes. This isn't a move against userboxes. All such inter-namespace redirects should be deleted. --Fang Aili 21:53, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and second what Fang Aili said. Mackensen (talk) 21:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, or if not deleted, at least make it a real redirect. "Soft redirects" are the most useless thing since decaffeinated coffee. — Mar. 4, '06 [00:57] <freakofnurxture|talk>
  • Delete all cross-namespace redirects. -- JLaTondre 01:19, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all cross-namespace redirects. —Cryptic (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, redirects are cheap. Matt Yeager (Talk?) 03:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Look at the alternative: a user who wants to find out how to use userboxes types it in the searchbox, only to get an ugly page with a "this page has been deleted" notice on it. What kind of impression does that give to a newbie about the usability of Wikipedia? To whose benefit is that? The user isn't looking for an encyclopedia article on it, and certainly not an ugly dead end -- they just want to add userboxes to their userpage, or take a look at the gallery of them. Without a deleted notice page nor a redirection, the result is a search list with Wikipedia:Userboxes right at the top. Your solution has users seeing a "deleted" notice page, forcing them to backtrack to hit the search button. Why not cut the steps down to one: hit the go button and go straight to the desired page? IT MAKES NO SENSE TO HAMPER THE USABILITY OF WIKIPEDIA FOR THE SAKE OF A PEDANTIC RULE. Please don't break the search box: I typed in "userboxes" and got an ugly page with a notice leading me here. This is NOT what I was looking for! Think of the user and what he or she wants to find when typing in the term. Make Wikipedia work better, make it intuitive. Empathize with the user, for that's who we are serving. --Go for it! 05:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep per what I said above. AmiDaniel 06:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep see above. Clarkefreak 23:17, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. This is a cross-namespace link, which is not allowed. Deleting this has nothing to do with userboxes per se, other publishers may mirror the contents of Wikipedia, and cross-namespace links break. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)(Talk) 11:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
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  • Delete Can't be anything other than pure speculation, and as such is not encyclopedic even as a redirect. Not relevant, unnecessary. --DanielCD 14:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Does his sexuality have to do anyting with his abuse charges? KILO-LIMA 18:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete --Grocer 19:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep, long after our special banner is gone off our home page, someone will wonder what our one-millionth article was. This redirect should be kept and should eihter point to the "Jordanhill railway station" article, as it does now, or to the press release pertaining to hitting the milestone. Johntex\talk 19:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note also the poll below on One millionth article, which currently has 3 opinions to keep compared the the one opinion listing it for consideration here. Thank you, Johntex\talk 19:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Duly noted, but please notice this article was created under different circumstances, deleted a few times, then recreated as a redirect. And while "One millionth article" is a somewhat likely search string, "one million articles" is hard to make sense of. --Grocer 19:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 3[edit]

  • Delete — Not a very likely incorrect spelling. Better to fall through to the search feature. — RJH 18:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete Unless I'm missing something, typing a misplaced cap at the end of a word should still go to the correctly capitalized article, and not the search page. For fun, I tried 'CommunisM' and was sent right to Communism with no redirect. The only time I can see this being useful is if the typo is in an inline link, in which case the red link would make it stand out enough that it would be found and corrected quickly anyway. -- Vary | Talk 22:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. pointless redirecT. Eivind 00:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, obsolete CamelCase. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 01:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, the usual CamelCase with old edit history. -- User:Docu
    • Question: could you say something to the benefit of keeping the edit history on this and similar items? User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:33, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, #4 above. —Cryptic (talk) 15:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per User:Docu and Cryptic. -- JLaTondre 18:01, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete. It's true that redirects are cheap, but its a really unlikely spelling. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 20:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep: thanks to JLaTondre's reference; I see that the camelcase version existed long before the normalcase version and that there is a history discontinuity between the two; therefore, the redirect up for deletion must be kept in order to satisfy GFDL licensing requirements. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep per above. Kappa 02:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, redirects are cheap. Matt Yeager
  • Delete. Redirects are cheap, but this one is completely unnecessary -- are we going to create a page for every possible spelling of every word? AmiDaniel 23:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. Sorry, I see your point now. AmiDaniel 03:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep because of its edit history. Incidentally, I took the liberty of replacing the {{afd1}} on the redirect with {{rfd1}}. Hairy Dude 05:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC) (Talk?) 03:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep: CamelCase redirects are historically significant and sometimes act as targets for external links. What did you think the huge great notice was telling you? HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 18:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • There is another (Shadows (Spy Glass Blue album)), but both are linked from Shadow (disambiguation), and as stated nothing links to Shadows (album) any more. Dan, the CowMan 17:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • As Dan says, Gordon Lightfoot's album was originally the only album called Shadows with a page. But subsequently another one has been created so Shadows (album) was moved to Shadows (Gordon Lightfoot album). Both Shadows albums have a link on the Shadow (disambiguation) page and so the redirect is pointless. Although I note that someone turned the redirect into a disambig page I think this is pointless. I still believe it should be deleted. Shadow007 00:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Shadow (disambiguation) has many links. Shadows (album) as a disambig specifically for the albums makes sense, causes no harm, and could actually help. -- JLaTondre 02:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • In my opinion, as a disambig page it is unlikely to be helpful. People will simply search "Shadows" and be redireted to Shadow, then to the Shadow (disambiguation) page from which they will get to one of the two Shadows albums. I think it extremely unlikey that without any pages linking to Shadows (album) anyone will actually go there. Shadow007 07:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • For general users, true. However, for those familiar with Wikipedia's naming convention, not necessarily. The existence of Shadows (album) as a disambig page would ensure a duplicate article or an article on another album with the same name is not created at Shadows (album) by mistake. -- JLaTondre 17:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Keep as dab page. Agreed, if you delete Shadows (album) someone will recreate it in error next time they write an article about an album called Shadows, then people who know the wiki will link to it from the wrong album without checking and they'll see their link go blue on the preview and think 'oh clever of me I guessed it right', and it'll be a mess. At least if it's a dab page when people link to it in error we'll pick it up on WP:DPL and be able to clean it up ~ VeledanTalk 18:22, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Support Keep as dab, and I have learned from this experience. Dan, the CowMan 05:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • March 4[edit]

    SUX should redirect to the Sioux Gateway Airport in Sioux City, Iowa. SUX is the three-letter IATA code.

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  • Change Redirecttotruth. Science3456 15:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change to point to To Tell the Truth. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change TargetTo Tell the Truth ... thanks for suggesting that one as a "mechanics" path; should then be tagged with R-from-related-word perhaps. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: in the absence of an article on the march itself I can see at least two places that the redirect might point, the composer (it's current target) or a list of the composer's pieces (such as List of works by Josef Wagner), which in many cases is in fact part of the composer's biographical article. I can see, though, the point of deleting it if one wishes to discourage a trend of creating redirects for every one of every artist's works. I waffle back and forth on that particular notion. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 5[edit]

  • Delete. Makes sense to me.Herostratus 14:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Looks like a simple newbie error. Page was created by an anon editor simply pasting in the text of the bible chapter and a later editor changed it to a redir instead of deleting the page. ~ VeledanTalk 21:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete While there is considerable debate over the meaning of the chapter, it is best covered in articles on the doctrines involved and on the gospel itself. --CTSWyneken 02:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • Keep: "n" vs. "nn" is a relatively common misspelling error when typing. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As per above. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 03:39, 6 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
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  • Delete unless keyboards with IPA symbols become suddenly widespread. ;) — TKD::Talk 13:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • March 6[edit]

  • Speedy delete? Do you mean the redir page is blocking the move of Academic dress of the University of DurhamtoAcademic dress of Durham University, i.e. preventing you changing the direction of the redirect? If that's the case, you can simply tag it for CSD under reason G9 — non-controversial page move — instead of voting here ~ VeledanTalk 21:31, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. Royboycrashfan 02:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep as stub per Salix. --Allen 00:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as stub per the above. Royboycrashfan 02:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 7[edit]

  • Comment it's not a misspelling, it's jargon. ॐ Metta Bubble puff 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • Keep, delete Field Remote Expedionary Device instead. Royboycrashfan 01:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: I often accidently capitilize that word when looking up episode lists, it's a legitimate redirect. --lightdarkness (talk) 21:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, plausible search term. Royboycrashfan 00:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • Delete per above. --Allen 06:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • Delete, unnecessary. Royboycrashfan 00:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change redirect to point to Delete, which is a disambig page that links to both the policy page and a couple articles. --Allen 06:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 8[edit]

  • Delete, not a useful redirect per nom. --Kinu t/c 07:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - as per nom and above comment -Localzuk (talk) 15:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nom and Royboycrashfan. —LrdChaos 16:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reredirecttoholiday, as I have just done. Kappa 00:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No redirect, page is going to be used for the 2006 film. Crumbsucker 00:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - serves no purpose. -Localzuk (talk) 15:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep this format is frequently the first link I attempt if I refer to a singer. Not doing any harm is it? ~ VeledanTalk 00:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - serves even less than no purpose. -Localzuk (talk) 15:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
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    March 9[edit]

  • Comment. I removed this PROD. The user who created the page, and then redirected it to Jophiel, stated in the PROD summary, "There's no reason to keep this article since it links to Jophiel now." I interpreted this to mean that the user didn't quite understand how redirects work, and maybe didn't realize that if the article was deleted, the redirect would vanish and stop working. No biggie; delete it if it seems reasonable to do so. -ikkyu2 (talk) 06:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 10[edit]

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  • pointless cross-namespace redirects; the category name is also an error, but that goes to CfD. Septentrionalis 21:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both. Not necessary and possibly confusing. — TKD::Talk 02:37, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per Kinu. — TKD::Talk 13:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 11[edit]

  • Keep. I concur. It seems fairly common. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 12:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep but redirect should point to an article like Game demo, instead of to a disambig page. AmiDaniel 01:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • The term "demo version" is also used for other things such as songs, so the redirect to disambig is fine. — sjorford (talk) 20:39, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Neutral vote. I had created the original article (Gold (Cat Stevens album)) and mysteriously, someone (a registered user, yet), had moved the article to the "Universal record album" space, whatever the hell that was supposed to be. This move apparently sat for a week without my knowledge until another gentleman reverted it back. So, basically, what I guess I'm trying to say is I don't care whether the dumb-ass "Universal record album" redirect remains or not. LOL. Cjmarsicano 06:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd call that reason to delete myself ~ VeledanTalk 19:19, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 12[edit]

  • Delete. Not funny. Innapropriate. Offensive. Not helpful. Etc. --TantalumTelluride 03:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change target to some page for ill advised redirects (perhaps a new page like WP:List of ill-advised redirects), and protect it from being edited. Otherwise it will be created anew and pointed somewhere else. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nomination, at least change the target as per Ceyockey. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 08:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Mild keep It's doing no harm, and could help the occasional insomniac who's hearing the jingle in his/her head. Chris the speller 16:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Chris. Although the target article needs to be cleaned up and expanded to cover that. — TKD::Talk 21:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Chris .. and yes that target article needs some cleaning, definitely. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    Sounds reasonable. I've removed my redirect suggestion & concur with delete. -- JLaTondre 13:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Transwiki→Wiktionary: yes, it is associated with the show, but it has entered the popular vernacular and has a meaning that transcends the show. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. Though the title would seem to be the stuff of WP:BJAODN. — TKD::Talk 21:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 13[edit]

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    March 14[edit]

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  • Nuclear should really become a disambiguation page to pages such as Nuclear power and Nuclear bomb. Nucleus has no info on either. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 15:57, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Up until recently, this was a disambiguation page. It should be so again. Ziggurat 01:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I reverted the page to the linked version. - EurekaLott 23:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. — TKD::Talk 17:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 15[edit]

  • If anything, it's more likely that someone typing in this phrase might be looking for the article on Anakin SkywalkerorStar Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. But it's too generic a phrase to redirect there, so delete. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 03:50, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Definitely unnecessary. — TKD::Talk 00:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete , per above. PJM 19:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • is a 90-degree design, not a 60-degree design.
  • pre-dates GM's use of rounded-off cc designations such as 3300, 3800, etc., in lieu of liter-designations such as 3.0, 4.1 by about 9 to 10 years. GM didn't start the cc designations until 1988.
  • That's my take on it, anyway. I might grudgingly concede that the redirect should be left in, and redirect to the LC9 entry on the 3800's page, but given my third point listed above, I don't really think that would be such a good idea, either. --King V 22:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep, of course it is likely to be capitalized. After all, this redirect results from a move from the capitalized version, which had apparently stood for nearly a year before the recent move. Gene Nygaard 21:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    • Speedy Delete per nom, hoax. Speedy as recreation of deleted material under slightly different spelling. Weregerbil 10:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete. I seriously doubt anyone who would type in Tropical Storm Jason would want the Perfect Storm. Hurricanehink 02:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep and make this redirect a disambiguation page to Portsmouth F.C. and Southampton F.C. --As hL 04:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 16[edit]

  • keep: Common mis-spelling. Perhaps a soft dab page may eventually be needed, if an article on MedAl is started some day. Ombudsman 00:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete Clear misleading mistake. Xoloz 21:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 17[edit]

  • Keep. It seems feasible. PJM 01:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep That was its original name. kotepho 19:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Mentioned in the lead. — TKD::Talk 01:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 18[edit]

    • There are already many many articles of a country's performance at a particular games. For example, all the competing countries at the 2006 Commonwealth Games have their own article about their results. Similar articles exist for the Summer and Winter Olympics. Remy B 09:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 19[edit]

  • Just a note: no disambig or any other pages link to it at all--except for this one, obviously. --Hriped 22:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep the Spanish wiki has the same redirect http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_nacional Whilst "rock nacional" does just mean "national rock" it may be that the term is specifically and widely used in Argentina, and not in other Spanish speaking coutries. -- Beardo 09:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. --Rory096 23:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep but ... remove the wikilink brackets for all of the .(state).us links at .us as they don't really add to the article substantially; subsequently add the tag {{R to list entry}} to the .il.us and .co.us redirects. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • That would be fine as well. -- JLaTondre 13:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    Redirects are cheap; create one at rice table, too (if there is more general usage, someone can always replace redirect with an article later). Gene Nygaard 16:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.[reply]
  • Delete all cross-namespace links. The different namespaces serve different purposes and we shouldn't confuse readers with such redirects. As for the self-reference, Superm401 is refering to policy / guideline (can't remember which and can't find it quickly) of not writing articles about Wikipedia itself. I don't think that really applies to redirects. -- JLaTondre 13:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - this one in particular could be conceivably tried in search for information found at pump. It's not an obvious Wikipedia-exclusive term. BigBlueFish 15:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all cross-namespace redirs. BrokenSegue 23:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 20[edit]

    Comment People may put part of a name in quotes, but are unlikely to search for a name with the whole thing in quotes. I can understand using quotes:
    • Delete bad precedent , highly unlikely search term. Ziggurat 04:22, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete Agreed Bad precedent. Do we then put all of the redirects in quotes as well?--Looper5920 09:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Speedy Delete as implausible typo. Most quotation mark redirects seem to fit that criteria, although I could be mistaken. Highly unlikely that someone will search that way, in either case. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) | (contribs) 00:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • weak delete while it does set a bad precedent, some newbies not familiar with the wikipedia search engine might put things in quotations since that is how one would search with many other engines (such as google and yahoo). JoshuaZ 04:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 21[edit]

  • Keep. Per Allen's comments. Remy B 07:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep same as above--Looper5920 08:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep although there should be a minimal level of english assumed for people searching. It seems like in this case it clearly is in the keep zone, but it may make sense to establish some general consensus about what sort of errors are reasonable for redirects. JoshuaZ 04:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. --Hyphen5 09:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep for the page history. The article was merged, not deleted. If deleted, this needs to have its history merged, which will probably result in a mess. Kusma (討論) 21:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, per kusma BrokenSegue 23:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep per above users. Page history and so on. — Deckiller 02:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom (although I'm not particularly afraid of the weird parentheses :) ). Joe 05:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 23[edit]

  • Delete per above. --Allen 00:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom≈ jossi ≈ t@ 22:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete, pretty far out there. --Allen 00:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom≈ jossi ≈ t@ 22:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Neutral. "Hueg Xbox" does get a lot of Google hits... far more than for other game consoles, but far fewer than for "Hueg [X]" where X is any of various body parts. --Allen 00:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete XBox is hueg and XBox is hueg is a decently spread meme, nevertheless this redirect is not needed. kotepho 02:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom≈ jossi ≈ t@ 22:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 24[edit]

    The only Khader I know if is Naser Khader. It should redirect to him. DanielDemaret 12:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep and consider reverting to the disambiguation page, which could be used to point readers to the correct article faster than the longer pages Catholic and Catholicism. Kusma (討論) 21:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • But, again, nothing uses Catholicism (disambiguation) as a disambiguation! There is no reason to keep it. --Hyphen5 13:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep, and tag as {{R from alternate language}}. Redirects are cheap, and those from alternate languages can be useful. Kusma (討論) 21:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep revert and cleanup ≈ jossi ≈ t@ 22:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 25[edit]

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    March 26[edit]

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  • Keep. Deletion request is pointless. -- RHaworth 13:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per RHaworth. Hoort 21:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 27[edit]

  • Aye, keep the page but switch off the redirect ~ VeledanTalk 20:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry for the confusion. No I don't want the Talk:PMI (music) page deleted. I would like to see the redirect from Talk:PMI switched off because if the redirect stays, that means there is no Talk page for PMI.--Emana 18:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    • Weak keep due to usefulness in AfD debates, especially for newbies who might not otherwise know what one is talking about when the word is used. JoshuaZ 02:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • We have Wikipedia:Neologism already for just that purpose. That page should be edited if necessary, but we should not clutter the encyclopedia with such things out of what really amounts to laziness: the inner workings of things, by long, very intelligent practise, have no place appearing in article space. We make some exceptions, but really this isn't one of them since, as indicated by the Whatlinkshere list, it is only ever referred to in AfD. Make a WP: shortcut to Wikipedia:Neologism, by all means, but don't pollute article space. -Splashtalk 02:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. I have to agree with JoshuaZ. The word is used in debates and the redirect helps people find some sort of sense of what it means. -- JJay 02:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • That would seem to work. So why not just redirect to that page? The important thing is that a user can type protologism into the search page and get to an explanation, because that's how people find info here. I don't think you are suggesting that new users would know a shortcut.-- JJay 12:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not a big fan of cross-namespace redirects but I think it would be ok in this case. That being said, redirecting to WP:NEO isn't really that helpful as it uses the term but never defines it. kotepho 00:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • That can be fixed easily enough by adding a mention. -Splashtalk 17:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete per WP:SELF. This relates directly to the process of making this encyclopedia, and is not an encyclopedic topic (or even a word!) outside of Wikipedia. Ziggurat 02:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete per Splash and Ziggurat. Henning Makholm 16:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete it might be useful but help using Wikipedia doesn't belong in the main article space. It doesn't exist in Webster, Chambers, or The American Heritage® Dictionary so having it in our main space is misinformative ~ VeledanTalk 20:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Make soft redirecttowikt:protologism. Stifle 11:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete per Splash. Term is now mentioned at WP:NEO. Doesn't belong in main article space since it's not a real word. People using it in debates should simply add a link to WP:NEO, e.g.: protologism. Phr 03:43, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete. "Protologism" is a protologism. 64.12.116.10 21:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Make a soft redirect to Wiktionary, could be useful, and term has some use. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • RedirecttoWikipedia:Neologism, the redirect already has almost a hundred uses on discussion pages. Petri Krohn 08:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    • Speedy Delete Reading the history of the redirect, it must be either a joke redirect or an attack redirect. JoshuaZ 03:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete, useless. I have just nominated the target page for deletion at WP:MFD. Kusma (討論) 03:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    March 28[edit]

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  • Delete per nom. AmiDaniel (Talk) 08:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not worth keeping. Royboycrashfan 20:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. Royboycrashfan 20:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Hoort 21:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 29[edit]

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    • week-Keep since a new user found it usefull. I changed it to a redirect since the topic was already covered. I'm not sure how can a redirect be POV? The phrase is real afterall... If there is a better article to point it at, then feel free. ---J.Smith 02:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete. Highly unnecessary redirect. AmiDaniel (Talk) 08:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete Highly unnecessary, no one is going to search for that term. JoshuaZ 14:48, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete per above. Royboycrashfan 20:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    This WP:Rfd seems to be an artifact of a political dispute between various factions within the Cherokee nation, and is a recurring focus of the edit wars currently taking place on Chad_"Corntassel"_Smith between User:Johnc1, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Johnc1, and others.
    User:Johnc1 seems to promote the Cherokee_Nation_of_Oklahoma (visit "Cherokee Website of Truth"); conversely, it is opposed (in this instance) by User:PeyoteMan/User:Waya sahoni/User:Gadugi, who seemingly prefers Cherokee_Nation.
    Just an observation... -- talks_to_birds 08:02, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    • Delete, seems like a POV redirect. Royboycrashfan 20:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    I've written a stub on the topic, the issue's now fixed. Natgoo 18:04, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 30[edit]

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  • Redirect per above. Royboycrashfan 06:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    March 31[edit]

  • Stanislas LeszinskiStanisław Leszczyński -- unusual misspelling - Appleseed (Talk) 21:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep, reasonable English renderings of his name.Kusma (討論) 22:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think a reasonable English version would be simply missing the diacritics, but this one is a gross misspelling--"i" instead of "y", and missing "cz". Appleseed (Talk) 22:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    As I mentioned on Kusma's talk page, the misspellings are so flagrant and bizarre that there's no way someone would be able to reproduce them. There are many easy ways to find the page if you don't know how to spell the article name or the name of a dozen of its more valid redirects: the Polish monarchs template, categories, and other articles. Appleseed (Talk) 16:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    I think a reasonable English version would be simply missing the diacritics, but this, too, is a gross misspelling; it adds an "i" and is missing an "e". Appleseed (Talk) 22:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete. Google seems to agree with you; this misspelling is only found on Wikipedia mirrors. Kusma (討論) 23:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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    There is already a redirect from "August the Strong". Appleseed (Talk) 22:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Almost a textbook case for {{R from other capitalisation}}, see Wikipedia:Redirect. Kusma (討論) 23:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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