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request links: main • edit • links • history • watch Filed: 21:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC) |
I do not know if any of you speaks french, but this text is a death threat directed to me and my family. This is most probably linked to fr:WP:MS, a long term vandalism on WP:fr. Besides vandalising, the vandal steals identities (I had some difficulty getting back the "Bradipus" identity, also here), and posts defamation on WP:fr admins all over internet (here in the serbian WP, a text accusing various admins of serious crimes such as pedophilia!!).
But what brings me here is this text of which I will translate the beginning: "I will cut you into pieces. I was unfairly blocked (not by me, as far as I know), I will do justice myself. I will cut you into pieces and eat your brain and your willie. I will kill all french speaking bourgeois (...). I will take care myself of your two little pieces of trash (that refers to my two children who are mentionned on my user page) that I will drown after crushing them against a wall. We will have your wife raped by hobos. No flemish would want to have that latin bitch (...)".
Death treats againts me and againt my family, this is getting quite serious. And according to what I know, this guy may well live a couple of kilometers away. I would like to get the IP of that guy if possible. Bradipus (talk) 21:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk note: I am sorry for your difficulty but you will not be able to gain the ip of the accounts. Such is considered private and cannot be divulged through checkuser. Please post your concern at WP:ANI. -JodyB talk 23:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk note: I have posted it at ANI for the user. I am not sure if I am supposed to post it here or in the declined section. Are checkusers supposed to make that decision? -JodyB talk 23:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would appreciate very much that a check user be accepted on this account. I am aware of the extreme badwill showed by the english community to defend our editors to stalkers and cyber-criminals, but I think there is a limit to what is acceptable. It is not okay to answer to one of our most precious editors that no checkuser action is needed, when he is threatened to be cut in pieces and eaten, his wife raped and his kids crushed on a wall. I am absolutely amazed that you routinely agree to do checks of potential sockpuppets merely criticizing another editor, whilst rejecting requests to help an editor threatened with high degree of violence. I think common sense should be guiding your actions. Merely blocking a user is not a sufficient action in face of such violence. Answering that cu action is not needed is uselessly offending. I think that checkusers should also provide help good community members to protect their lives. If you can not provide the IP information directly to the user, a good idea would be possibly to discuss the issue with the other checkusers or to contact Mike Godwin for further help. I also think, Bradipus, that you should go to the police and have a request being delivered to provide the ip address to the police team. This type of discourse is not something we should accept on internet, and certainly not a discourse we should accept on Wikipedia. Ever. Anthere (talk) 01:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I commented more in length in my talk page, but let me summarize here that I am sorry if my tone hurted some people. I apology as well if my comments were unclear and confusing; The issue was not "to give the data to Bradipus". The issue was that I felt what he was reporting was dismissed. I am aware there are increasingly threats of violence here and there, and I would like so much that we do not stand and let it become somehow... the norm that people can issue threats at others. But again, my apologies. I hope I was clearer. Anthere (talk) 13:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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