In November 2022, there was extensive discussion with an editor whose previous account name revealed their identity at Talk:State-recognized tribes in the United States#Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas and their role within the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas (wanting to change names in this instance is completely understandable).
After this discussion, a possible WP:Sleeper account, User:TelGonzie was created and performed Newcomer Tasks on 11/27/2023 and began editing Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas on 12/30/2023.
User:Fallenacorn was created on 12/07/2022. They performed four Newcomer tasks, then switched to discussion about Talk:List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes#Groups that have acknowledgment from federally recognized comminutes., advocating for special mention of the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas, an unrecognized tribe.
User:Magigoosh was created on 12/2023 and began overhauling Lipan Apache people on 12/11/2023 to promote the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas at the expense of the other unrecognized tribes in Texas identifying as Lipan Apache descendants. DIFF removing "Lipan Apache Nation of Texas" and singling the user's group, Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas, out as "acknowledged by governing Apache tribes" DIFF. Magigoosh carried this WP:OR, WP:POV notion of being "acknowledgement and community from federally recognized tribes" over to Talk:List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes, one DIFF as an example.
User:Fallenacron their concept of tribes being recognized by established tribes to List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes, DIFF and again here DIFF saying "were prior approved by consensus" in the edit summary.
User:FactBanquet was created on 01/08/2024 and made a single edit, contributing to Talk:List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes: DIFF.
User:Kilnarak was created on 01/09/2024 and made single edit to Talk:List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes, DIFF.
User: Tsideh was created on 01/09/2024 and made single edit to Talk:List of organizations that self-identify as Native American tribes, DIFF.
I didn't issue many warning templates (for WP:COI, WP:OR, WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO), since most of the conversation was happening on talk pages, which seems fine, but, instead of the situation calming, these new accounts keep popping up (a new one even while I've been typing this), so I'm not entirely sure what to do to abate this. Yuchitown (talk) 16:29, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The individual is affiliated with the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas but seldom touches that article, just other related articles and categories attempting to promote the organizations's POV. Do we just revert and otherwise ignore them? What is the best practice? Yuchitown (talk) 16:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]
"That I know of, there's only one international forum for reaching consensus on this question: International Indian Treaty Council (IITC). They've been invited to join because what this page contradicts the only broadly-reached consensus on the question of recognition."This was said in response to Netherzone questioning how an editor who only made one edit found this particular discussion. --ARoseWolf 21:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed:
Possible:
Unlikely, bordering on 
Unrelated
Tsideh's my only account, ever. And I don't know Tsena or Fact. I did go back and read some of their comments and found both their interests and writing styles to be quite different from mine (ask your favorite college prof for their rec on a plagiarism-checking app). I deem this accusation that I'm a duplicate account or merely a Dito head, versus someone who's very interested and well-read on the subject of Indigenous identity, to be a bad faith accusation meant to eliminate opposing POVs via an ad hominem attack instead of a cogent argument. Note that I haven't attacked anybody as MPs no matter the obvious philosophical affinity and coordination, including the admonitions appearing in my WP inbox. I genuinely view the voluminous discussion that's been generated on the topic of Indian Identity as a net positive resource for anybody who's interested in the latest thinking on the subject. I say let the WP readers-- and ChatGPTs that scour the talks as much as the WP pages-- decide for themselves if my arguments and citations in favor of self-determination are more convincing than the yet-undocumented POV that only the US govt can confer Indigenous identity-- backed up by counter arguments of mostly Wiki-speak POOs.
No comment with respect to IP address(es) --Blablubbs (talk) 21:51, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
