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German Wikipedia

Wikipedia dragged into German politics over Nazi images

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  • ByMichael Snow

    The German Wikipedia briefly became embroiled in a political controversy last week, with a politician seeking to have criminal charges brought over the presence of swastikas and other Nazi images. After getting widespread publicity, the request was dropped the next day amid criticism that the allegations were unjustified.

    Trial by media

    The incident came about when Katina Schubert (who did not have an article in the English Wikipedia prior to this incident) filed a criminal complaint with Berlin police, alleging that the German Wikipedia contains too much Nazi imagery, and citing in particular the article on the Hitler Youth (German version prior to the report; current German version). Schubert is a member of the party leadership for Die Linke, the primary party of the far left in Germany (roughly the opposite, on the political spectrum, of the National Democratic Party, which is considered the closest thing in Germany to a neo-Nazi party).

    It is generally illegal to display Nazi symbols in Germany, although an exception is allowed for educational purposes, which appropriate Wikipedia uses would undoubtedly rely on. The article version immediately prior to the complaint's filing included eleven assorted image files, including an organization chart and three files incorporating many different rank insignia used by the Hitler Youth. At the top was also a template, from the German equivalent of the History WikiProject, flagging the article as in need of improvement.

    Arne Klempert, CEO of the German chapter of Wikimedia, defended the Wikipedia editing process and its ability to deal with subjects of this nature, noting that other reference works in Germany include Nazi symbols when they document the period. Several party colleagues also criticized Schubert's move, saying it did not reflect their views and was not the appropriate way to combat right-wing extremists on the internet. As Klempert pointed out, Schubert failed to contact anyone involved in the Wikimedia Foundation about the matter prior to seeking legal action (she told heise online that her aides had been unable to find contact information for Wikipedia). After further discussions, Schubert backed down somewhat, asking for the complaint to be withdrawn, although she reiterated her concern that Wikipedia and other sites might be susceptible to neo-Nazi influence.

    Some changes were also brought about on the German Wikipedia in response to the complaint. The first reaction was that somebody requested deletion of the Hitler Youth article, although unsurprisingly this went nowhere. Since then, most of the images have been removed from the article, leaving only the Hitler Youth flag. The article has been protected for the next week due to edit wars, and the template tag now more specifically requests historical background and sources.

    Comparison with Brockhaus

    Meanwhile, a major weekly German magazine, Stern, ran a cover story last week asking the question, "How good is Wikipedia?" It pitted the German Wikipedia against Brockhaus, the leading commercial encyclopedia in Germany, in a comparison test across fifty subjects. The results were a victory for Wikipedia, whose entries got an average grade of 1.7 when compared with Brockhaus's 2.7 (low scores are better, 1 is the best possible).

    Criteria for the grades included whether the articles were correct, comprehensive, up-to-date, and understandable. As the Stern noted to its surprise, Wikipedia came out ahead even in terms of correctness. The one category where Wikipedia fell short was on readability. A Brockhaus spokesman complained that the test was unfair, arguing that it used the online edition of Brockhaus, which has only half as many entries as the full published version.




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    Excellent reporting, as always. A few comments:

    Regards, High on a tree (talk) 02:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the feedback. The story did actually already mention how many articles the Stern tested, but I appreciate you pointing out that chart with the test results, I hadn't seen the full details in one place.
    I had gathered that withdrawal of the complaint might not be up to her alone, and tried to account for that in the language I used. Without an expert in the niceties of German legal procedure, I didn't want to be too definitive. As a former prosecutor, though, I understand the principle that in most jurisdictions, the wishes of private parties (including the complaining witness) may be considered, but aren't normally allowed to overrule the state's interest in respect for the law.
    Gravenreuth I heard about as I was working on this. His history with Wikipedia is an interesting sidelight in a way, but I agree that a publicity stunt reacting to a publicity stunt probably didn't warrant coverage in this context.
    Finally, I'll elaborate on what I meant by contrasting Die Linke with NPD. It's not meant to suggest that they are equals, nor was it particularly to emphasize Die Linke as being extreme either (the irony you note is possible, but sometimes people overplay the notion that extremes on the political spectrum supposedly have a lot in common with each other). To me the point actually suggests how logical it is that a Left politician would go after possible neo-Nazi influence, because they're the most ideologically opposed you can be to it. Publicity stunt or not, I would be a lot more surprised if the issue had been raised by someone in the CDU, for example (which is not to suggest that the CDU are Nazi sympathizers, just that their level of concern wouldn't be as high). --Michael Snow (talk) 07:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The description of Die Linke seems wrong another count, though. Describing it as the "main socialist party" rather strongly implies that the SPD is not a socialist party. The SPD is a member of the Socialist International and the Party of European Socialists. Although in many other ways they've departed from socialism, it seems problematic to essentially say they're not socialists. Why not call it the main party of the far left, or something like that? john k (talk) 06:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The SPD, as of course its name indicates, would be described as a social democratic party. To identify it as socialist would require far too much elaboration about how broadly the label is being applied, and the whole point here is simply to provide a brief identifier for those not familiar with German political parties. I find "socialist" a much more informative term about a party's political philosophy than "far left"; for that matter, as indicated above, I was conscious of not unduly painting Die Linke as extreme.
    Also, I'm not inclined to rely on membership in umbrella organizations as particularly informative when they include a hodgepodge of social democratic and labor parties along with established socialists. By that interpretation, I'd be justified in describing Tony Blair or Gordon Brown as socialists, which strikes me as silly. --Michael Snow (talk) 19:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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