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bydevslash0 ( 4203435 ) writes:
This should apply to anyone LOCATED in the EU, not just those who have a EU Apple account. You shouldn't be recording and processing the voice and visuals of anyone in that space because you'd still be processing European data.
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byZak3056 ( 69287 ) writes:
Presumably, Apple thinks that "I went to another country and my expensive translator stopped working" has a higher risk of a lawsuit than "someone with airpods may have heard me regurgitate private information in a public space" does. Knowing how the EU has been operating over the last decade or so, I don't know that I agree with that assessment.
byMikeMo ( 521697 ) writes:
Apple said it won't work for EU residents or those with an EU Apple ID. I interpret that to mean it will work if you are in the EU visiting and are neither a resident or have an EU ID.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
That would be illegal. In fact, even possession of the US version while in some EU countries would be illegal, unless these clearly and visibly signal when they are recording. Worst case, you may have these seized when entering the EU.
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
I interpret that to mean it will work if you are in the EU visiting and are neither a resident or have an EU ID.
And if you interpreted it like that you wouldn't be in compliance with not just the GDPR but data export laws as well. Visitors to the EU are subject to EU law.
bydevslash0 ( 4203435 ) writes:
No, I cry about people pretentious enough to think that recording others with their expensive toys, without respect for privacy, is acceptable.
byregistrations_suck ( 1075251 ) writes:
That's a lot of crying.
byISayWeOnlyToBePolite ( 721679 ) writes:
This should apply to anyone LOCATED in the EU, not just those who have a EU Apple account. You shouldn't be recording and processing the voice and visuals of anyone in that space because you'd still be processing European data.
If it concerns GDPR seemingly they'd be under the exception: https://commission.europa.eu/l... [europa.eu]
When the regulation does not apply
Your company is service provider based outside the EU. It provides services to customers outside the EU. Its clients can use its services when they travel to other countries, including within the EU. Provided your company doesn't specifically target its services at individuals in the EU, it is not subject to the rules of the GDPR.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Not really. If PID from EU citizens gets recorded, the exception does not apply. It just applies to the violation of the privacy of the device/software owner under the stated conditions when they travel to the EU. So Apple is allowed to continue to violate the privacy of an US iPhone owner when they travel to the EU, but not that of others there.
byISayWeOnlyToBePolite ( 721679 ) writes:
Source?
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Your link. Maybe read the claims made there? Yes, it is a bit subtle. But if you, as the service user, record others, then these others become (involuntary) users of the service and that is not covered. You cannot simply go to the EU and violate the rights of the citizens there because your recording device is from outside the EU and you are too.
Also, obviously: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/lega... [europa.eu]
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Actually, for people where Apple does not block this in the EU, the person activating the device is doing something illegal. And unless these things clearly signal they are recoding, even possession is illegal in some EU countries, for example in Germany. In others you are not allowed to activate them unless everybody has given informed consent and that means all processing, storage, selling, etc. has been explained to them first. Pretty impossible.
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