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byzeeky boogy doog ( 8381659 ) writes:
Things will get even shittier in red states, because it turns out that a curriculum based on Republican Jesus is even more useless to the workforce than one based on Biblical Jesus, let alone one based on reality.
And they will keep on fucking voting for the people who keep making things worse for them, again and again, and blame literally everyone else.
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byLostMyBeaver ( 1226054 ) writes:
Religion is always a bad thing in school. My kids had 12 years of Jesus is a swell guy nonsense. They rarely had teachers who believed it though.
The real problem will be that agricultural states will be badly hurt. They reproduce the most and lack the jobs for population growth. They have to urbanize and if a child is raised in Farmville, they'll have great difficulties relocating if the other state don't respect their education.
byKokuyo ( 549451 ) writes:
So I know you already know how life works and don't need to question your own opinions anymore but....
How exactly is Jesus not a swell guy? I will absolutely grant you that his fanbase doesn't live up to his example but you sound like you disagree with the man in principle and that seems pretty weird considering his message was "Love the creator, the people around you and yourself".
Is it the "Don't take yourself too seriously" you're struggling with? Or rather the expectation to uphold some standards in con
bysg_oneill ( 159032 ) writes:
How exactly is Jesus not a swell guy?
He's been dead for 2000 years. He's not *any* sort of guy.
bycoopertempleclause ( 7262286 ) writes:
Education is supposed to teach you knowledge and skills useful/relevant for the current time.
Learing about dead people from 2,000 years ago shouldn't be anything more than a module in an religious ed. class.
bysabbede ( 2678435 ) writes:
If you think the Bible does not contain knowledge that is as useful and relevant now as it was 2000 years ago, you probably haven't read it.
bydryeo ( 100693 ) writes:
I don't know, some of those dead Greeks from well over 2,000 years ago had some interesting stuff to say. Generally a critical course of history can advance critical thinking, though you are right that focusing on one individual from 2k years back is not very constructive.
bybleedingobvious ( 6265230 ) writes:
his message was "Love the creator, the people around you and yourself".
So you're delusional and firmly believe indoctrinating future generations of kids with your personal delusion is a good thing... *and* you're asserting some sort of distorted moral superiority in this....
That's just next level messed up.
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byMightyMartian ( 840721 ) writes:
We can start with his violent behavior outside the Temple where the money changers were lawfully exercising their free right of commerce. Then we can talk about how he scapegoated the Pharisees, pouring down streams of bile on traditional observant Jews, and furthering a strain of political histrionics that had been splitting Jewish society apart since the Seleucid period, apparently to show off his reformist credentials to his followers. The "Prince of Peace" was just another agitating religious asshole.
byFirethorn ( 177587 ) writes:
I remember the money changers being inside the temple, they were blocking the court where converts were supposed to worship.
Plus, they were overcharging for their services and giving kickbacks to the priests, IE corruption.
On the whole Jesus was very liberal though when you look at his average advise and actions.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Do you also remember this was written down a few decades later and obviously edited to create a certain impression?
byBruce66423 ( 1678196 ) writes:
Good spot about the 'outside'.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
The "Prince of Peace" was just another agitating religious asshole.
Is there any other kind? All they want is power, influence, attention and admiration. None of them wants to actually improve the world, even though they usually claim they do. But you know what, the NSDAP _actually_ wanted to improve the world, even if their approach to it was rather questionable. So does that mean they are the good guys? Obviously not.
In the end, everybody that wants to sell you a certain world-view that does not very explicitly includes respecting other views is an asshole, often violent
byWebHikerOriginal ( 605852 ) writes:
Jesus also cursed a fig tree to death because didn't have figs and JC was hangry.
Like why fucking kill a tree instead magicing up a hummus burger?
It's so obviously all a bunch of horse shit only morons could believe it.
byNotEmmanuelGoldstein ( 6423622 ) writes:
... I really struggle to understand your post.
First, it's promoting magic (virgin birth, bad accounting of fishes and loaves, walking on water, good zombies and personalized rapture).
Second, it's the "Fox News" effect: What Jesus said, is in the New Testament, and then 'corrected' by all the rules the apostles made (women wear bonnets, no blood transfusions, spread the word of God) after his death, the mythology created by the Catholic Church (holy trinity, immaculate conception, etc) and its anti-intellectual rules (which the Church, itself ran afoul of) and the anti-intellectual rules of the Old Testament. How many Biblical quotes in circulation, are from the New Testament? "Love thy Neighbour" is probably one-quarter of them, and the one least practiced.
Third, While the last point wasn't Jesus' fault, it reveals that humans use the concept of an all-powerful being, as a reason to abuse others. That resulted in Oliver Cromwell, Adolf Hitler and modern-day Trump (via Project 2025).
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byPascoea ( 968200 ) writes:
you sound like you disagree with the man in principle
I've never met the guy, only know what 1000s of years of re-told and cherry picked stories tell me about him. Overall, I have no problem with the guy, or his messaging. I generally don't have a problem with his followers.
I will absolutely grant you that his fanbase doesn't live up to his example
Ding ding ding ding. You've came to your own answer. I don't like others attempting to impose their will over me because THEIR book tells THEM that I shouldn't be doing something.
"Love the creator, the people around you and yourself".
And, to OP's concern, if that were what was being taught to children in school, alongside of other messaging fr
byQuailRider ( 853479 ) writes:
Jesus is a fairy tale created more than hundred years after the real man lived, invented and manipulated by the politically powerful, incorporating and conflating the mythology and oral traditions of the times, in order to control a superstitious and mostly illiterate populace. The fact that these lies continue to be perpetuated and accepted wholesale 2000 years later speaks to the power of 'core beliefs' over facts and reason.
bysabbede ( 2678435 ) writes:
I think part of the point is that nobody can truly live up to his example, only strive to do so and apologize when we don't.
byceoyoyo ( 59147 ) writes:
My kids had 12 years of Jesus is a swell guy nonsense. They rarely had teachers who believed it though.
Jesus might have been a swell guy. OP doesn't say he wasn't. The kicker is the second sentence. Jesus is reported to have said some stuff like "don't judge people," "those shitty old rules are kinda shitty," and "how about you butt out and let the boss make the decisions?" but many of his apparent adherents like to ignore those bits and really like (some of) those shitty old rules, especially when they get
bysabbede ( 2678435 ) writes:
Is it? It was in the schools until what, 1968? Since then, have education outcomes gotten better or worse? What about social outcomes? Are families more or less stable? Has drug use, depression and anxiety gone up or down? Has happiness gone up or down? Is there more or less violence in our schools?
byCreepy ( 93888 ) writes:
Jesus isn't even real.
OK, deep dive, Jesus exists because Joshua (Yeshua) wasn't translatable into Greek. Nobody named Jesus ever existed. I'm waiting for the savior to show up and nobody identifies him because he isn't actually called Jesus.
bymigos ( 10321981 ) writes:
Not to mention that red state high schools will have such bad reputations that colleges in other states will never admit them.
bygtall ( 79522 ) writes:
There are already reports of colleges and unis falling over for the Maggots:
https://www.politico.com/news/... [politico.com]
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byzawarski ( 1381571 ) writes:
And if spineless democrats somehow ever get the presidency again, will not have the balls to play by the new rulez of fuck-you-stop-me.
bynarcc ( 412956 ) writes:
That's a good thing. We don't want that kind of chaos. What we need is stability. That is what made us strong and what maintained that strength. In just a few months, our erratic and unpredictable behavior has done seemingly irreparable damage to our reputation on the world stage. We were the world's best hope for nuclear disarmament, but no one will every be foolish enough to give up their status as a nuclear power again because of promises made by the US, an unstable and untrustworthy fair-weather 'a
byceoyoyo ( 59147 ) writes:
"We're seen as weak and incompetent"
No. If that were the case your allies would be lining up to help you. You're seen as dangerous, unpredictable and undependable.
byuohcicds ( 472888 ) writes:
"Make America Stupid Again"
Seems like a fairly transparent plan. You can't work out the shit these fundamentalist throwbacks are pulling if you can't understand it. The emphasis is firmly on the 'mentalist' there
bysabbede ( 2678435 ) writes:
Education outcomes have been on a steady decline for decades. The system has already made us stupid, so perhaps it needs some reform.
bymeekrab ( 4680249 ) writes:
"Reform" in this manner being a bit like finding an ant colony in your kitchen so you napalm the house.
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bymjwx ( 966435 ) writes:
Things will get even shittier in red states, because it turns out that a curriculum based on Republican Jesus is even more useless to the workforce than one based on Biblical Jesus, let alone one based on reality.
And they will keep on fucking voting for the people who keep making things worse for them, again and again, and blame literally everyone else.
You're seeing that as a bug and not a feature.
The Republicans know they'll never win another election on policies and promises... So they've gone all in on lies and misinformation. Keeping people stupid and afraid is key to ensuring they continue to swallow the bullshit.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
There is a lot of truth to that.
bychiefcrash ( 1315009 ) writes:
Given that Congress specified that no provision of a program administered by the DOE shall be construed to authorize the Secretary or any such officer to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, over the selection or content of library resources, textbooks, or other instructional materials by any educational institution or school system... what exactly has been stopping red states from doing it already?
bymr100percent ( 57156 ) writes:
This.
Remember when Kansas banned the teaching of evolution in public schools? Medical schools and biology companies treated all applicants from Kansas with deep suspicion for years. That was just one state. Imagine what will happen when all the Red states do the same. It will be havoc.
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