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byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
It is out of your hands now, and the domains mean nothing anymore.
It was good while it lasted, but it is gone.
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byOrangeTide ( 124937 ) writes:
You can run your own shit on top of the existing network. But it will be a struggle to get anyone to visit because while incessant advertisement, marketing data collection, and social media content-tuning has ruined the Internet those things are also why the masses keep coming back.
It's like building a gingerbread house and then telling obese german children not to visit.
bySumDog ( 466607 ) writes:
That's why the Fediverse (Pleroma, Mastodon, etc.) is so interesting. It's a backwater filled with lots of people in the way the old school Internet was. Domains don't matter there, as you'll see some of the craziest instance names ever. Unfortunately, there is a ton of cross-instance censorship, leading to a really broken communication system.
https://battlepenguin.com/tech... [battlepenguin.com]
Nostr is way less fragile, but has no where near as many people on it, and way more difficult to understand and use.
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byPaul Fernhout ( 109597 ) writes:
Ass I suggested earlier today: https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... [slashdot.org]
byPaul Fernhout ( 109597 ) writes:
Relevant excerpt: "I am not saying that project would succeed in attracting a lot of interest any time soon -- but Mozilla could fund such a project indefinitely at a low level (~100 international developers at ~US$70K each) on the investment returns of that 1.4 billion (that it is sadly otherwise probably about to piss away on Firefox AI). That endowment would give the project a lot of staying power credibility, beyond previous smaller attempts like Viewpoints Research, Interval Research, Internet Archive'
byffkom ( 3519199 ) writes:
Unfortunately, there is a ton of cross-instance censorship, leading to a really broken communication system.
https://battlepenguin.com/tech... [battlepenguin.com]
Thanks for this informative link, it pretty much confirms what I had less systematically observed.
It's clearly not a technical problem that so many people have decided they want to stay within a bubble and not be confronted with opposing opinions, and I doubt there can be any technical solution to this. Even if a protocol like Nostr allows everyone to do their own censoring as they please, too many will still demand for censorship to happen centrally or else they don't want to be part of a communication ne
byallo ( 1728082 ) writes:
Domain names are not even the problem anymore. Grab the next consumer product in reach and look at its references to social media. Chances are good you won't see any URL, but just a company logo and an account name. People don't type domains anymore, they one of the popular 10 apps to read your posts.
bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
Also "AI remains a force for good" suggests he's seriously out of touch at this point. And didn't he bless the DRM proposal that effectively destroyed cross platform video?
byffkom ( 3519199 ) writes:
Also "AI remains a force for good" suggests he's seriously out of touch at this point. And didn't he bless the DRM proposal that effectively destroyed cross platform video?
Yes and yes. And "Solid" was a commercial endeavor from the start. Just because he was among the founders of a very successful publication protocol does not make him a prophet or even an agreeable person. And while HTTP and HTML certainly addressed some relevant requirements, both are far from being a stroke of genius.
byWolfgangVL ( 3494585 ) writes:
That's not true. A lot of us are still running the same hobby bullshit out of the same little closet on the same rickety consumer hardware that we did in the 90s. I know I've been hosting services online for over a decade, and there's never been a profit motive for me. It's fun, and in the beginning that was enough.
It's more than that now. Every single personal site on the internet is a fly in big techs beer. Every hobby service out there is endless ad impressions denied. A lot of young people are looking for something they can do to take a stand against the monolithic capitalism that constantly put itself between us and what we're trying to do, and taking back technology is the answer. META can't fuck with your local political races if they're broke. Close your account and host your own site instead. Every hobby site is an act of defiance in the face of the massive corporations insisting they're the only option.
Every time a teenagers personal webserver answers it's first public request the whole world leans just a tiny bit back towards what we were all told the internet was in the 90s. Make a difference. Spin up a website. Host a service.... Take back control.
The old internet is still there- happily routing around failures, with or without you.
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byStormReaver ( 59959 ) writes:
And none of that matters as long as static IP addresses aren't being given out as standard operating procedure. That means IPv4 needs to go, NAT needs to go, and IPv6 needs to be the new standard. Until that happens, there is zero chance any hobby services will be in any way disruptive to big tech.
byctilsie242 ( 4841247 ) writes:
There are ways to fix that. On a private basis, I have machines on completely different networks. However, with TailScale, they appear to be on the same subnet, with all the NAT traversal virtualized out.
If we could find a way to allow for cloud-brokered connections so people can connect to a website sitting behind a firewall... all the while making sure that this is a standard path so it doesn't become a tool for shadow IT or an attack vector, we could have a P2P web again, a true P2P web.
However, I don'
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
It is still there. Just need to look beyond the great slop seas.
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