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bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
Almost none of the things I've ordered from Aliexpress et al over the last few months was available via an American manufacturer. And they were too obscure to be anything an American supplier would be interested in importing (HDMI EDID simulators?)
This is going to suck especially for anyone waiting for spare parts to come in.
Yes, the supply of cheap sprocket sets is at an end, but so is a lot of the stuff that only comes from China after the same Republican party that's gung ho about tariffs and destroying imports today destroyed our manufacturing industry in the 1980s, encouraging businesses to off shore manufacturing and celebrating the resultant destruction of unions as a result.
I am genuinely worried with this level of malignant mismanagement we'll be looking at food shortages by the end of the year. And Trump's supporters are so tribal they'll respond to this claiming I'm an alarmist, and then justify it as "necessary" when it happens, because nobody is willing to admit Trump's a problem who has any influence over the bastard.
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bytiananmen tank man ( 979067 ) writes:
stop calling it a tarriff, because maga folks have a hard on for that word. Call it what it really is, an import tax.
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byRetired Chemist ( 5039029 ) writes:
That is what a tariff is.
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bydpille ( 547949 ) writes:
Huh. Perhaps there's also no difference between an "estate tax" and a "death tax"?
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bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
That was true before too, but it was presented otherwise ofc
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byXylantiel ( 177496 ) writes:
Well you know that, but it seems like the rabidly anti-tax people in the US have forgotten that.
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bymjwx ( 966435 ) writes:
stop calling it a tarriff, because maga folks have a hard on for that word. Call it what it really is, an import tax.
Indeed, elsewhere in the anglosphere we call them duties, but it's essentially just a different word for tax.
bygeekmux ( 1040042 ) writes:
stop calling it a tarriff, because maga folks have a hard on for that word. Call it what it really is, an import tax.
You really think taxpayers are gonna care what name you give it if it costs the same? Funny how basic math can quickly make marketing irrelevant.
Trying to change and re-define established concepts and ideas is exactly why The Woke lost. Maybe stop trying to do that stupid shit already and learn why it’s pointless. We also don’t want to live in a society bred to be that stupid and gullible to marketing.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
We also donâ(TM)t want to live in a society bred to be that stupid and gullible to marketing.
toooooooo fucking late, Republicans have been successfully attacking our education systems since Reagan and now people ARE that stupid, and if you don't speak a language they understand then you cannot reach them. Stop with your thoughts and prayers bullshit, you can't HOPE people into intelligence.
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byceoyoyo ( 59147 ) writes:
They do. People are stupid and, unless you actually see the number at the cash register, it requires a minimal attention span to connect it to something that is not called a tax. That's why so many people cheered when Trump said he'd impose massive tariffs and lower prices.
People also hate taxes regardless of what they do to taxes. A good example is Canada's carbon tax. It's designed to be income neutral and CO2 emissions are skewed, so the average person gets an actual cheque for more money than it cost th
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bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
Funny enough you will still be able to buy all those things. They may just stop being priced at fantasy rates. Many countries have removed their exceptions on import duties for small packages. What it reduced was the senseless spending on commodity rubbish (seriously that $5 dress in TFS is no joke, look at the likes of Shein and what they are flooding western streets with feces tier clothing often worn once and thrown away).
Yeah every time I read a hackaday article talking about hacking a $2 Xaiomi thermos
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
False. I care about the cost of things, which is why I spend a bit extra to buy things which last rather than rubbish tier trash that lasts a week and then breaks forcing me to buy it again.
You're not saving anything. You're in a consumer death spiral of pointless spending and rubbish disposal.
bydgatwood ( 11270 ) writes:
False. I care about the cost of things, which is why I spend a bit extra to buy things which last rather than rubbish tier trash that lasts a week and then breaks forcing me to buy it again.
If there actually were options like that, it would be great, but in my experience, the same cheap trash is for sale with company names stamped on it at local stores. Good stuff is exceptionally hard to find.
Besides, the only fantasy is that this will actually result in more manufacturing in the U.S. After all, the parts still mostly come from China, and all it takes is them raising tariffs on the parts to make it infeasible to make them here.
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bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
The issue isn't whether I might be able to in the future, it's that I can't NOW. Did you read even the headline?
No, I can't buy those things. The postal service is blocking all transport of them.
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
Oh that's what you meant. Yeah that's temporary. I applaud Trump for removing that stupid exception, but like every absolutely rubbish businessman he went about it in the worst possible way. When they removed that exemption in my country they gave everyone notice.
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byserviscope_minor ( 664417 ) writes:
Almost none of the things I've ordered from Aliexpress et al over the last few months was available via an American manufacturer.
It miiiiiiight be in one of those obnoxious B2B settings where the lead time is infinite, you have to shcmooze with the vendor for ages and tell them your life story and after 5 months you find the price is about 10x what you can justify. Oh also unsearchable so unless you know a guy you'll never know where to get it from anyway.
I like with Aliexpress how they have prices and you
bysinkskinkshrieks ( 6952954 ) writes:
Yep. Same. America doesn't make anything and turning off the taps won't change that. This will just force R&D and makers to leave the US.
bysabbede ( 2678435 ) writes:
We did, and retain the ability to do so again.
bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
Not if there's a risk that it might strengthen... unions... UNIONS... U N I O N S!
No, manufacturing will not come back to the US, the investment required is huge, and the people promoting tariffs are the same assholes who destroyed manufacturing industry to begin with because of a nutcase anti-Americans ideology that if the super-rich can't get what they want, then ordinary Americans must suffer.
If the Democrats are able to regain power, they'll just turn off the tariffs, because those don't benefit anyone,
bysabbede ( 2678435 ) writes:
Except new factories are getting built all the time. Distance yourself from the dumb fatalism of the Democrats. Manufacturing can and will come back. Bad policy encouraged it to leave, good policy will encourage it to come back.
byKGIII ( 973947 ) writes:
That's actually not true, though it's a common belief.
We manufacture more than ever...
https://www.macrotrends.net/gl... [macrotrends.net]
It's no longer as much of the GDP as it once was but that's because other areas have improved - like services.
We make all sorts of stuff here in the US. It just doesn't require as many people or as many factories.
bydgatwood ( 11270 ) writes:
Almost none of the things I've ordered from Aliexpress et al over the last few months was available via an American manufacturer. And they were too obscure to be anything an American supplier would be interested in importing (HDMI EDID simulators?)
SIIG makes one (or at least imports one), so that's probably a bad example, but yeah, I know what you mean.
I am genuinely worried with this level of malignant mismanagement we'll be looking at food shortages by the end of the year.
We're already seeing an impact on farm labor in California [kget.com]. If this continues, it's not really a question of whether we'll have shortages, but rather how big the shortages will be and how many crops will be affected.
byDagger2 ( 1177377 ) writes:
I am genuinely worried with this level of malignant mismanagement we'll be looking at food shortages by the end of the year.
That would well and truly count as an emergency... which would justify declaring a state of emergency, unlocking extra powers for them to use.
Do you think they're above causing that deliberately?
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