Talk:Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology

RMIT University would read Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology University, this seems pleonastic. Not unlike if MIT was MIT University. Came across some difficulty moving the page, could somebody help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikijokr (talk • contribs) 05:15, 15 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

It is pleonastic. It is also their name, so please don't try to move it. The Drover's Wife (talk) 05:17, 15 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Concur with The Drover's Wife on this one. --Coolcaesar (talk) 06:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus, WP:TITLECON. – robertsky (talk) 23:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

RMIT University → Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology – Use the official legal name per the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology 2010 (No. 3 of 2010) passed by the Parliament of Victoria. We also have WP:TITLECON policy. As a prior discussion said, we use Massachusetts Institute of Technology instead of "MIT" for the Wikipedia article title, even if the name "MIT" may be used often. This is also true for having California Institute of Technology instead of "Caltech" for article title. Cfls (talk) 05:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Oppose. WP:COMMONNAME is a policy. WP:TITLECON is a mere essay, not a policy. Google Ngram Viewer shows that RMIT is more common than Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology in the published English corpus and has been since 1992.--Coolcaesar (talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
• Support. It is better to use the full name. People in Melbourne, like me, know what RMIT is, but for those outside Melbourne it is better to have the full name. Bduke (talk) 06:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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• Support per nom and Bduke. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
• Support. Aside from universities with Theintheir legal name, this seems to be the only Australian university article title that is under a brand name. A similar example would be CQUniversity which is under the article title of Central Queensland University despite that institution also rarely using the long form outside of degree parchments. While brand names such as CQUniversity and QUT may be more recognisable in the states where they are being used, it may be less recognisable for others. The Google Ngram Viewer rationale may not be useful since it shows similar graphs for MIT and Caltech and doesn't take into account why the abbreviations are being used. It's only a metric. My opinion does assume that place names matter in article titles, but WP:COMMONNAME doesn't seem to be used consistently on article titles about universities and WP:TITLECON seems more relevant. I am from WA. The Education Auditor (talk) 05:27, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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