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You can help Drmies retain that youth cred, lurkers.

Latest comment: 5 years ago12 comments3 people in discussion

… and you can have the kudos of doing better than I did, too, for whatever that is worth. ☺

We don't want xyr fellow youths to find Drmies editing any more articles about very dead people, especially very dead people where Doktoro has to consider the moral qualities and large muscular person (and indeed sweet voice and missing teeth) of a man that Joseph Cooper Walker had never met and credited a "friend" for knowledge thereof. Doktoro does not need such stimulation at xyr age.Doktoro's fellow youths do not rispec' knowing the teeth of very dead people, and rispec' from one's peer group is important. Doktoro is neither friend of Walker nor Dorothy.

So gently guide Dr mi estas away, and shield xyr eyes; and please find a historian who does not simply regurgitate a clearly unreliable 18th century memoir. You might observe that I have found a clearly annoyed Ulsterman that doesn't like the memoir, and quite a lot of people over the centuries that have plagiarized it without attribution. So the bar is rather higher than an off-handed Google Books search now. Those of you with High Beaming, Tex-Mex Lexus, JSTORrery, and the like might care to use your exceptional capabilities.

Uncle G (talk) 10:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

There was once a collector named Ralph, who had a Bronze horn on a shelf. —

This article is about the Army major, for his grand-nephew the major-general see Ralph Ouseley.

Ralph Ouseley (1739-05-07[1][2]–1803[2]) was an Irish antiquarian and major in the British Army.

Family

His brother was John, who was father to Gideon Ouseley and grandfather to major-general Ralph Ouseley.

Ralph himself had several children by two wives. By his first wife Elizabeth Holland of Limerick (whom he married on 1763-04-01) he had three daughters and two sons, William who became an orientalist and Gore who became a Baronet.[1][2] Elizabeth died on 1782-11-28, and he took a second wife, Mary Collins, with whom he only had 1 surviving child, Joseph Walker Jasper Ouseley who also became an orientalist.[2]

He lived in Limerick and in Dunmore, County Galway.[1]

Antiquarianism

Ralph was a member of the Royal Irish Academy and was a collector and an antiquarian.[1]

He was published several times in the Transactions of the Academy, including for example Ouseley 1788 which recounted his discovery of three Later Bronze Age horns in Carrigogunnell, County Limerick.[1] A partial account of his personal collection of antiquities was reported by Charles Etienne Coquebert de Montbret, who visited him in 1790.[1]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f Cahill 1993, p. 5.
  • ^ a b c d Foster 1881, p. 477. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFFoster1881 (help)
    • Reference bibliography
  • Foster, Joseph (1881). "Ouseley". The Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage of the British Empire. Vol. 2. Nichols and Sons. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

    • Further reading

    This submission to Articles for creation will be rejected by Doktoro for not rhyming.

    — He said to his son, "Look what we've done! —

    Joseph Walker Jasper Ouseley (1800-06-21[1]–November 1889[1]) was a British orientalist and a colonel in the British Army.

    The son of Ralph Ouseley by his second wife Mary Collins, Joseph was educated in Limerick.[1][2] He joined the British Army as an ensign in 1819, in which he reached the rank of colonel by the time that he retired.[2][1] He never saw combat.[3] After being posted to the Bengal European Regiment in India, he became a military attaché in oriental languages, having tutored himself during the sea voyage from home in 1820 and then having attended the College of Fort William in Calcutta, from which he graduated with honours in Arabic and Persian.[2][1][3]

    He became a professor of Arabic, Bengali, Maharati, and Persian at the College of Fort William in 1825, and was Superintendent of the Mysore Princes from 1838 to 1844.[1] Returning home to Britain in 1844, he became an examiner at Haileybury College until 1859, and then from 1862 to 1883 was a civil service examiner in Arabic and Persian languages.[2][1]

    The Joseph Walker Jasper Ouseley scholarships to the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London, intended to fund the studies of Arabic, Persian, Hindustani, and other languages, were endowed in his name by Mary and Louisa Ouseley.

    References

    1. ^ a b c d e f g Riddick 1998, p. 279.
  • ^ a b c d Foster 1881, p. 477. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFFoster1881 (help)
  • ^ a b Ouseley.
    • Reference bibliography
  • Riddick, John F. (1998). "Ouseley, Joseph Walker Jasper". Who was who in British India. Greenwood Press. ISBN 9780313292323. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Ouseley, R.G. "Notes on the verso of a portrait of Joseph W. J. Ouseley". In 1820 he sailed to Calcutta and, through various appointments, saw no military action {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

    • Further reading

    This submission to Articles for creation is not modern enough for Dr mi estas. Come in to the 20th century, dude!

    — I'll not keep the news to myself."

    Maybe someone else will have more Limericks for Doktoro. Uncle G (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

    There once was a man from Nantucket
    Whose work was so fine that he stuck it.
    He just said, counting stars,
    As he sat on his arse,
    "If it's nommed for delete, I'll say file a complaint at AN/I, thanks!"
    Martinevans123 (talk) 18:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

    An Ulsterman named Francis Bigger …

    It is because you like Limericks. So there were three Limericks for you. Uncle G (talk) 00:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

    This page is about the antiquarian from Belfast. For the Irish politician from Belfast that he is confused with, see Joseph Biggar.

    Francis Joseph Bigger (1863[1]–1926-12-09[1][2], both in Belfast[1]) was an Irish antiquarian, revivalist, solicitor, architect, author, editor, Member of the Royal Irish Academy, and Fellow of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland. His collected library, now distributed across several public institutions, comprised more than 18 thousand books, journals, letters, photographs, sketches, maps, and other materials. His house in Belfast was a gathering place for Irish nationalist politicians, artists, scholars, and others. He was a prolific sponsor and promoter of Gaelic culture, authored many works of his own, founded (or co-founded) several institutions, and revived and edited the Ulster Journal of Archaeology.

    Namesake confusion

    The Belfast politician Joseph Biggar changed the spelling of his surname from Bigger to Biggar (when he converted to Catholicism), which caused people some confusion in the spelling of Francis Joseph Bigger's surname.[2] It is spelled Bigger.[2]

    Life

    Bigger was born in 1863, in Belfast on Little Donegal Street.[2] He was educated at the Royal Belfast Academical Institution, which had been founded by his grandfather in 1810, and one of whoe governors was his father.[2]

    He joined the Belfast Naturalists' Field Club, and was later its secretary and its president.[2] He became a solicitor in 1888,[1] and was also a freemason.[3] He also helped to organize the Glens Feis, a feisatCushendall, out of a desire to promote Gaelic culture that also saw him join, and become a member of the executive committee of, the Gaelic League.[2][3]

    He revived the Ulster Journal of Archaeology, after a hiatus of 30 years, which he then edited from 1894 to 1914.[1][2] His interest in archeology remained noted by archeologists a century later, with sites that he had dug being known informally as "well and truly Biggered".[4]

    In 1911 he bought Jordan's CastleinArdglass which he restored, and bequeathed to the state.[2]

    As an architect, he wrote a complaint to the Irish Independent, published on 1907-03-02, about plans for some cottages; in response to which the Independent invited him to present his own plans, which he drew up and the Independent then published as Labourers' Cottages for Ireland (Bigger 1907).[5] Writer Jonathan Bell characterized these as the plans of an "eccentric antiquarian", as they deliberately excluded sinks from the design, Bigger claiming that "washing up is usually done in a bucket".[6]

    Regular visitors to his home in Belfast, Ardrigh House number 737b on Antrim Road, were Douglas Hyde, Roger Casement, and Francis McPeake, for the latter of whom Bigger arranged lessons in Irish traditional pipe music from John O'Reilly of Galway, paying for the lodgings in Belfast of McPeake and O'Reilly, and giving additional money to O'Reilly's family.[2][4] (A description of Ardrigh House can be found in chapter 4 of Joseph Connolly's Memoirs, Connolly, J. Anthony Gaughan 1996, p. 76, listed in further reading.[4] Bigger himself spelled its name "Airdrie" in correspondence[4], and it was demolished in 1986 in order to build a block of flats.[7])

    There is a long list of such visitors, including Stephen Gwynn and Padraic Colum.[8] Bigger founded the Ulster Literary Theatre in 1902 in partnership with another such, Bulmer Hobson.[9] He financed another visitor's, Herbert Hughes's, Songs of Uladh which was published in 1904 and was a the result of a holiday to Donegal taken by Bigger, who brought along Hughes and the two brothers John Patrick Campbell and Joseph Campbell.[8] Hughes noted down the meloies of various folk songs during the holiday, which were then published in the Songs with words by Joseph and illustrative woodcuts by John.[8]

    He strove to improve the standards of public houses, founding the Ulster Public House Association (a.k.a. the Ulster Public House Trust or Ulster Public House Reform Association).[2][4]

    Works

    A strong supporter of the revival of Irish language and culture, he wrote on those and many aspects of the archaeology of Northern Ireland.[1] His best-known work is The Ulster Land War of 1770, and he also edited and contributed articles to the aforementioned Ulster Journal of Archaeology.[1]

    Other works include his booklet The Hills of Holy Ireland, a diatribe against the British rule of Ireland that was based upon a lecture that Bigger gave in the Linen Hall Library, which was on display in the Belfast Central Library from 2007 to 2008 as part of an exhibition.[2] He also wrote pamphlets entitled Irish Penal Crosses and The Northern Leaders of 98, a novel Aeneas O’Haughan, a collection of fireside stories Four Shots from Dawn.[4]

    With Herbert Hughes, Bigger also made a collection of just under 175 rubbings of the heraldic designs engraved on gravestones in County Antrim, which they published in the Ulster Journal of Archaeology in 1900 and 1901.[10]

    There is a partial list of Works by Francis Joseph BiggeratOpen Library. Others not listed there and not aforementioned include:

    John Smyth Crone edited his Articles and Sketches (Bigger 1927), a selection of just some of his work, that was published after his death.[11]

    Other people's works that they dedicated to Bigger include Cathal O'Byrne’s As I Roved Out and George A. Birmingham’s The Northern Iron.[4]

    Collections

    A catalogue of his personal collection at his death is in Hackett, Moore & Lauder 1930, which runs to 302 pages. This comprised a significant fraction of the 1956 Catalogue of Belfast Central Library[4], the Bigger Collection having been presented to the Belfast Central Library by Bigger's brother (Lietenant Colonel F.C. Bigger) a year after his death.[2][3][11] The collection in the BCL runs to 10,000 books and journals, 3,500 letters of correspondence, and 180 boxes of scrapbooks, maps, and pamphlets.[2] A further collection of 5,000 photographs is held separately at the Ulster Museum.[2]

    The bookplates that he used for his books have the motto: "Giving and Forgiving".[2]

    The curator of the 2007–2008 exhibition about him at the Belfast Central Library, Roger Dixon, described him as a "one man Irish Cultural Institute" in an accompanying pamphlet entitled Ireland's Cultural Visionary.[2]

    In the National Library of Ireland, photographs of his home, family, and associates are Ms. 21,543; and miscellaneous papers of his are Ms. 21,542. Other papers of his are held at the Linen Hall Library and at the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland.[11]

    References

    1. ^ a b c d e f g Cleeve & Brady 1985.
  • ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q Clements 2007.
  • ^ a b c Bardon 1992, p. 420.
  • ^ a b c d e f g h Stewart.
  • ^ Gailey 1984, p. 274.
  • ^ Bell 2002, p. 50.
  • ^ Bardon 1992, p. 419.
  • ^ a b c Dibble 2013, p. 60.
  • ^ Bardon 1992, p. 421.
  • ^ Patterson 2012, p. 136.
  • ^ a b c McCorley.
    • Reference bibliography
  • Clements, Paul (2007-12-08). "An Irishman's Diary". Irish Times. {{cite news}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Bardon, Jonathan (1992). A History of Ulster (2nd ed.). Blackstaff Press. ISBN 9780856407031. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Stewart, Bruce (ed.). "F. J. Bigger (1863-1926)". RICORSO: A Knowledge of Irish Literature. Retrieved 2019-06-09. {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Roddy McCorley Society. "Francis Joseph Bigger". Retrieved 2019-06-09.
  • Dibble, Jeremy (2013). Hamilton Harty: Musical Polymath. Music in Britain, 1600–2000. Vol. 9. Boydell & Brewer Ltd. ISBN 9781843838586. ISSN 1752-1904. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Patterson, Daniel W. (2012). "Reading Scotch Irish Emblems". The True Image: Gravestone Art and the Culture of Scotch Irish Settlers in the Pennsylvania and Carolina Backcountry. Richard Hampton Jenrette Series in Architecture and the Decorative Arts. UNC Press Books. ISBN 9780807837535. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Bell, Jonathan (2002). Conor: Drawing from Life. Appletree Press. ISBN 9780862818470. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Gailey, Alan (1984). Rural Houses of the North of Ireland. J. Donald. ISBN 9780859760980. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

    • Further reading

    In dictionaries of biography
    See also the ones in the reference bibliography.
    Contemporary obituaries in scholarly and professional journals
    Other biographies
    On Bigger's collection, house, and his individual works
    This submission to Articles for creation is not a Limerick. He was an Ulsterman.

    {{Irish-bio-stub}}

    This one is huge. The lurkers might want to chip in here. I've given you a good substub. But there's no mention of Roddy McCorley, the granite block of St Patrick, the Gaelic football club, the Irish Folk Song Society, the Irish Peasant Home Industries, the Belfast Art Society, or the Irish Decorative Art Association. Uncle G (talk) 00:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

    … once went to school, and had a granddad.

    David Bigger, Ulster merchant and grandfather of Francis Joseph Bigger, founded the Carnmoney Cotton Printing Mill, was one of the original governors of the Royal Belfast Academical Institution in 1910, and was one of the founders of the Linen Hall Library in Belfast.[1][2]

    References

    1. ^ Phoenix 2005, p. 66. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFPhoenix2005 (help)
  • ^ Young 1892, p. 323. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFYoung1892 (help)
    • Reference bibliography
  • Corporation of Belfast (1892). Young, Robert Magill (ed.). The Town Book of the Corporation of Belfast, 1613–1816, edited from the original, with chronological list of events, and notes. Belfast: Marcus Ward. (The Town Book of the Corporation of Belfast at the Internet Archive)

    • Further reading

    {{Irish-very-dead-person-bio-stub}}

    This submission to Articles for creation is a bit thin. Perhaps what we want is the biographer, instead.

    Robert Magill Young (1851[1]–1925[1]) was an Irish architect, historian, author, antiquarian, justice of the peace, member of the Royal Irish Academy, and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland.[1] He co-edited the Ulster Journal of Archaeology with Francis Joseph Bigger from 1895.[1]

    His father was Robert Young, one of the partners in Ulster architectural firm Young and Mackenzie, a firm that Robert Magill later joined.[2]

    Works

    References

    1. ^ a b c d Newmann.
  • ^ Curl 2006, p. 872.
    • Reference bibliography
  • Curl, James Stevens (2006). "Young and Mackenzie". A Dictionary of Architecture. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780198606789. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

    • Further reading

    In dictionaries of biography
    See also the ones in the reference bibliography.
    Other biographies

    {{Irish-very-dead-person-bio-stub}}

    This submission to Articles for creation is a bit thin, too. But at least the trail of dangling hyperlinks finally peters out at Arthur Deane, Kate Newmann, and James Stevens Curl, ne?

    The Ulster Literary Theatre has bypassed Articles for creation, because it was about plays and writing and history and stuff, and no-one is interested in that here. I argued that Doktoro might be tricked into it if it were misrepresented as popular culture … of 1909, having xem think that it would help that youth cred, but failed to make the case. Uncle G (talk) 03:46, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

    Course correction

    No, no, no, Doktoro! If you want the youth cred then you need to focus upon finding sources for Jada Facer (AfD discussion) not very dead priests. Do not even let the fact that those of us without all of that High Beaming, Tex-Mex Lexus, and JSTORrery cannot read the likes of doi:10.2307/29740597, whereas you can, distract you. Nor http://allhallows.ie/cms/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/The-Missionary.pdf . Nor even David Bigger and Robert Magill Young. Uncle G (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

    Mass edits by SwoopSwing

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    Special:Contributions/SwoopSwing just changed something like 600 "infobox Hollywood cartoon" to "infobox film" with no edit summaries. Was there an RfC I missed? otherwise, I'm kinda wishing I had mass rollback rights now :). Please take a look.Hydromania (talk) 03:05, 24 June 2019 (UTC) And I found it. Was eight months ago so I'm surprised it's just getting implemented now. Sorry to bother. Hydromania (talk) 03:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

    Congratulations!

    Latest comment: 5 years ago18 comments8 people in discussion

    Mr. Reputable.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

    I don't mean to stir the drama pot, but can someone point me to whatever silencing of unwelcome voices WMF is meant to have done? I've been out-of-the-loop,and my curiosity is perhaps getting the better of me now. LadyofShalott 02:33, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

     
    There is none of thisinthe Netherlands' paper proposing a United Nations Rapid Deployment Brigade. Not a sausage.

    As I have been supporting Doktoro's quest for youth cred for — Hmmm! … it is probably self-defeating to say — many years, including even a recent course correction here at AFC above, at #Course correction, I must oppose Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb's attempt to out Doktoro's age. A Time Lady does not care to be asked.

    On that subject: Onion Lady, EngVar's Daughter, and others, if writing articles is more to your taste, I hope to present a quite interesting one to AFC shortly. It's next in line after I make some more improvements to I Monetary Advisory, mentioned in a fairly big news story quite recently that has been linked to R. Roshan Baig#Decline in Indian National Congress and that we at Wikipedia were going to inappropriately call IMA scam.

    If in the meantime you want a stub to turn into a featured article, just to prove that it can be done but without touching stuff that you might be saving up, we've been discussing entire books with respect to International Legion (Proposed) (AfD discussion). Don't let the involvement of UN secretary generals in the history of the subject fool you; this one is written about by professors, English Professors and Australian ones. Doktoro, do not get excited by the 1995 involvement of Gallifey in that subject.

    Uncle G (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

    Oh dear. There actually is Bacon. Uncle G (talk) 22:57, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

    A kitten for you!

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
     

    You are most welcome sir.

    Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:48, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

    There is an encyclopaedia around here, somewhere.

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    I could have sworn that I had it here, just a moment ago.

    As you might have already seen, I am having to draft my next submission to Articles for creation in a holding area. It is rather long. This is one of the elephants in the room mentioned at User:Uncle G/Missing encyclopaedic articles, that I bumped into from doing AFD Patrol.

    I have not found a connection to Gallifrey but, as I mentioned earlier here at AFC, I am dismayed to discover the involvement of Bacon when checking out the |author1-link= possibilities. Alas, there are no free-content images of said Bacon that I could use in a sidebar here to entice you, the nearest being non-free CC-BY-NC-ND licensed.

    There are no very dead people involved, so this will definitely help with Doktoro's quest for youth cred. There are a pop singer and a kid off the TV involved. It is hep and in the now, man! Protestors at Berkeley and everything. On the streets! How much more street cred can one get, dude?

    Doing the reading inspires a series of questions that are perhaps, this time, addressed to people other than readers of Wikipedia's main page, perhaps to its writers this time; a whole week's worth of thoughts for the day to muse upon.

    Did you know …
    Sunday
    … that a Foundation's tactics, during a crisis that involved firing an administrator, were "secrecy, central directives, gag orders, firings and lockouts of staff, and a covert contract with a union-busting organization"? (Hackett & Carroll 2006, p. 102)
    Monday
    … that the chairpersonofa Foundation's initial public reaction to a crisis coming to a head was to frame it as racism? (Coburn 1999)
    Tuesday
    … that the initial onset of a crisis provoked volunteers to create other projects on the Internet? (Opel 2004, p. 36)
    Wednesday
    … that one of the statements made by the (first) public relations person, employed by a Foundation during a crisis that involved firing an administrator, was that the charges being levelled at the person who took the action were unfair, but "The problem [is] we're so limited in what we can say, by our own lawyers."? (Conciatore 1999)
    Thursday
    … that the crisis brought to a head by a Foundation firing an administrator drew messages of solidarity from projects in other languages?(Lasar 2004, p. 1059 Meikle 2014, p. 199)
    Friday
    … that the person who fired the administrator, bringing a crisis to a head, set out, in her "My First 100 Days" report to the Board of the Foundation her goal to "stop the rudeness, the bullying, the you-can't-tell-me-what-to-do attitude"? (Lasar 2006, p. 202)
    Saturday
    … that the person who fired the administrator, bringing a crisis to a head, had no way to distinguish the people who wanted to engage in peaceful dialogue from the people who fired shots into her work office, physically assaulted her on the way into work, and paraded around posters of her as a monster; and protesters did not appreciate the level of personal distress and sense of danger this was engendering? (Dinges 2000 Thompson 2002)
    Sunday
    … that in response to the initial onset of a crisis contributors called for a strike of current events coverage but there was not enough consensus for it to be effective? (Dinges 2000)
    Monday
    … that a Foundation's infamous gag rule that was at the centre of a crisis was aimed at preventing the project from being used for attack pieces and from embroiling it in legal disputes amongst volunteers? (Lasar 2006, p. 37–39)
    Tuesday
    … that part of what underpinned a crisis was a fundamental discord between a Foundation that legally owned everything and its volunteers who thought that they were in charge, whose elected local governing bodies had been cut out of the loop by a rule change? (Lasar 2006, p. 88 et al.)
    Wednesday
    … that the administrator whose firing by a Foundation brought a crisis to a head, went on, the following decade, to be the Executive Director of that Foundation? (Phillips 2013)
  • Phillips, Andrew Leslie (2013-08-06). Lasar, Matthew (ed.). "Riding the waves at Pacifica radio". Radio Survivor. {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Lasar, Matthew (2004). "Pacifica Foundation". In Sterling, Christopher H.; Keith, Michael C. (eds.). The Museum of Broadcast Communications encyclopedia of radio. Vol. 3. Fitzroy Dearborn. ISBN 9781579584528. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

    • Would that there were an encyclopaedia around here with history that everyone could learn from! ☺

    I am in the process of writing a tiny part of it.

    Uncle G (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

    The user Parveen raaj Hiranwal

    Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    He is also a sock-check out the report I put Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Parveen raaj hisampur (I'm sure there are others) Wgolf (talk) 02:19, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

    About Rilke's clothings

    Latest comment: 5 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

    Hello Drmies, can you please find a citation to one of the "every other book". Washington Post is not an authoritative source about Rilke's life. And once again there was no "dressing as a girl" in the 19th century among young children. Rilke's mother may have treated him "like a girl" or believed he's a girl but it wasn't about clothing. Please find a historically correct source. Cheers, The Terrible Mutant Hamster (talk) 02:04, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

    David Yates

    Latest comment: 5 years ago16 comments4 people in discussion

    Wikipedia is a rotten place to edit. I trimmed significant material from this article, which has clearly been written by fans. I should have trimmed more, but I got tired. It was full of excessive detail and tangential material. It even had a table for all of of his own appearances (I removed that entirely). The Directorial style section is principally a self-aggrandizing quote farm. I should have removed all three quotations but I only did the last as it was unsourced. At the same time, I corrected a plethora of formatting errors. I also deadlinked a Daily Mail cite in the Personal life section supposedly supporting that Yvonne Walcott is Yates's partner. Even if the DM cite were live, we should have better sourcing for that sort of material (then there's the trivia about Walcott). At the same time, I corrected the infobox so it doesn't say that Walcott is his spouse.

    An editor came along and undid a lot of my changes, as a result of which there are now factual errors, unsourced material, and the list goes on. I undid their changes, but that was quickly reverted telling me to go to the Talk page. Not me. This post here is the only thing I'm willing to do, and if no one's interested, which I can completely understand, that'll be an end to it. In this area and in so many others lately I don't know why I bother.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:02, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

    • I'd really like to go for a walk, but I still have this lingering nasty cough from my recent (and sort of ongoing) illness. BTW, our friend Sebastian still believes it's okay to call Walcott a spouse in the infobox. Other than warning him about 3RR, I'm not touching the article myself. MarnetteD: applause.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) Can you confirm that you are taking responsibilities for edits like theseonarticle's talk page here. I am not obliged to check every edit and remove the bad things, so instead of starting an edit war, you could have corrected and discussed it. No wonder why you are working hard on this article and haven't seen the other edits, such as HPDEATHLYHALLOWS4's frequent edits, and suddenly decided to take action. As for Drmies, I don't remember asking you to share an opinion about something that is irrelevant to you. Also, I am not your friend. Sebastian James what's the T? 17:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
    Oh, Sebastian James, you don't remember that? Maybe you didn't ask me. But maybe this is a collaborative project, and whatever you do can become part of the public discourse. And maybe I have an opinion anyway, especially since I'm an administrator and you made a totally assholish comment. If you wish to avoid being criticized for such comments, don't make them. Drmies (talk) 18:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
    Maybe especially when no one cares about your opinion, "the less said, the better" should come to mind. Congrats for being an administrator. Sebastian James what's the T? 10:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
    Are you "semi-retired", Sebastian James? Enjoy your new hobby. I hope for your sake it requires less knowledge of guidelines and fewer interactions with human beings. Any time you want to stop this you can stop this by stopping this. Drmies (talk) 13:39, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
    Oh, what are you talking about? As you can see, I am not as active as I was before, and I have definitely no time for you, so I am "stopping this" now.Sebastian James what's the T? 15:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

    The irony is that it is so easy to find an alternative to The Daily Mirror that is even 8 years more up-to-date, to boot. The only slight problem is that people at the St Helens Star ridiculously don't put datelines on their work, so this is the dateline according to Bing. Uncle G (talk) 18:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

    Bbb23, I need your help for a moment. Plz check your email in a minute, if you can. Drmies (talk) 19:43, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

    Administrators' newsletter – July 2019

    Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

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    User: War Operation Plan Response

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    The block should be amended. If they allowed to edit their own talk page they will just restore the libellous material and they are clearly an associate of the banned user User:Option 16. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 02:40, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

    Wikimania 2020 Bangkok

    Latest comment: 5 years ago9 comments5 people in discussion

    Hi Klomp (that was actually the family name of my girlfriend when I was living in Amsterdam inn 1967). I won't be going to Stockholm most unfortunately, because I really can't afford $3,000 just for 5 days in the far north of Europe. I'll leave that trip to the Europeans and the 70-strong WMF junket. But next year Wikimania is right on my doorstep. I hope you will be able to come. I will be making absolutely sure that my friends who are able to come will have a great time. Regards, Chris. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

    This is the way it works at Wikimania, Bbb23: Back in 2012 in D.C. after the welcome party at the Library of Congress, the bus drove past the door of the ramshackle backpacker hostel were were forced to stay in (12-man rooms with bunk beds and a toilet down the corridor and a dysfunctional elevator), the WMF refused to let it stop, and it dropped us 14 blocks away at the WMF's luxury hotel. We had to walk back, and with 2m tall Mike Peel striding out in front, with the arthritis in my knees it was agony keeping up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
    Good thing I never go.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
    Things change, it seems. This report from someone who attended both the 2012 D.C. Wikimania and the 2015 Mexico City Wikimania, had as one of their concerns, the issue that housing 2015 scholarship attendees in the Hilton was perhaps more expensive than would be appropriate. Presumably the toilet was closer and the elevators more amenable. MPS1992 (talk) 22:33, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
    Hiltons have neither toilets nor elevators. They do, however, have tacky decor.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:35, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
    We all know it's only the Ritz for you, Bbb. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:46, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
    I spent one night in that hostel, Kudpung, one single night. I'm too old for that shit. Drmies (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

    Your closure of the AN thread

    Latest comment: 5 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

    AtWikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Abusive_behavior_and_controversial_edits_by_an_IP. While this started as my question on the applicability of talk page guidelines, I have grown increasingly concerned about Bbb23's behavior (i.e. lack of response to the question I and other have raised), and his refusal to discuss this on his talk page ([1]). I am sure acted 'to protect the project', but there are limits to such protection, particularly given the potential for admin abuse of power. I would not be pursuing this IF Bbb23 did not use the veiled thread 'this is an administrative action'. But he did. This all could have ended if Bbb23 said 'ok, I made a mistake, won't do it again', with a simple 'sorry' being nice but not necessary (my ego will survive without it). But given Bbb23 refusal to address this issue outside saying that Cirt socket, it seems to me that they have not demonstrated any remorse, or anything to demonstrate they made a mistake. This is worrisome. Admin abuse, where admins believe they are near perfect, have no need to explain themselves or apologize is a problem on Wikipedia. As an OP, I don't believe this issue is closed until Bbb23 explains themselves, apologizes, OR the community decided it is not necessary. Your closure of this thread, as a fellow admin, is sending a wrong message - that admins are beyond critique, and if critiqued, well, such threads will be closed by their fellow admin, no need for them to be stressed out and subject to such a terrifying thing as critique... Again, I am not seeking anything else but a simple statement from Bbb23 that they made a mistake and they won't do it again. If you are not going to reopen that thread, and in light of Bbb23 removing my posts from their talk pages, I'd appreciate if you would tell me which forum is applicable to pursue this matter further. Because while this started as a small matter, Bbb23 refusal to back down even a little bit suggest to me this may need to be investigated further, because this community does not need admins who are unwilling to accept that they can make an occasional errors. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:49, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

    You've got mail

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

     
    Hello, Drmies. Please check your email; you've got mail!
    It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}}or{{ygm}} template.Barkeep49 (talk) 16:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

    Deep state in the United States

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    You feel like taking a look at this? Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

    Special:Contributions/Stupid_Rules

    Latest comment: 5 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion

    You might want to take another look at this. Besides [2] this, basically all their contribs are pursuing this fool vendetta from Talk:Romford. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

    For what it's worth, I don't see much different in the (poor) level of contributions between the talk page jeering by MickGriff (talk · contribs) and the edit summarries of the other account. My personal view is that Wikipedia would be better off without both of them. 86.29.117.62 (talk · contribs) geolocates to the next town along. 31.127.146.196 (talk · contribs) is plainly from the edit summaries MickGriff logged out. They both do nothing else and neither presents the sort of case that Wikipedia needs. Uncle G (talk) 09:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

    Maybe Wiki would be better off publishing the fact that Romford is in Essex instead of incorrectly showing Romford as London. As for the sort of case that Wiki needs I would think up to date government and NHS websites stating Romford is in Essex is what Wiki needs but no Wiki via people with no connection to Romford are allowed to impose their fakery and have Romford showing as London. Reminiscent of the old Soviet Union. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MickGriff (talk • contribs) 09:03, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

    DYK for 1 the Road

    Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
     

    On6 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1 the Road, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an artificial intelligence wrote a novel in the spirit of Jack Kerouac's On the Road? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1 the Road. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 1 the Road), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

    Hey

    Latest comment: 5 years ago11 comments3 people in discussion

    Drmies I just Reverted it since an experienced editor put it back? Since the Nazi did persecute Clergy Just a Example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest_Barracks_of_Dachau_Concentration_Camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#Roman_Catholics Jack90s15 (talk) 00:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    OK but Thanks El_C for still wanting to help!Jack90s15 (talk) 01:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    Jack90s15, if you have specific questions you could drop them on my talk page. Some very nice people stop by here occasionally, and they might could help you out. Drmies (talk) 01:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    Thanks will do!!! Drmies

    Pamela Geller

    Latest comment: 5 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

    I intended to go through and restore edits we can agree on, one by one. And I started to do this. Most of these edits can not be undone on a single basis. What else could I do? Jason from nyc (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    Long-standing errors

    Latest comment: 5 years ago26 comments8 people in discussion

    After over a decade and a half finally someone — me! — has read a book. I've related the unfortunate truth that I found out at AFD. Alas, I have things to do. Lurkers here at Doktoro's talk page might relish the challenge of reading books, and pick up where I left off. You'll discover that Aquapasto is a name of one company's product, for starters, and we probably could do with using the generic name for the stuff. Uncle G (talk) 13:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

    AfD Central

    Pinging User:MaskedSinger and User:William2001: please look at this again: the AfDs, the associated pages, the comments here by Uncle G, etc. But for y'all's delete votes I could simply close them and be done with it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

    I fail to see what the issue is. The page doesn't have a single source or reference. In current form, it must be deleted or possibly redirected. If one is so vested that it stay, build up the page to reflect its importance, significance and notability. If one line in 15 years is the best that can be done. QED. Can I just say that the person who created this page was a known sock and all 3 pages cited above were ALL created by the same editor. MaskedSinger (talk) 15:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
    Which is why, MaskedSinger, you should read the entire account. I hate to say it but you are wrong: please read Wikipedia:Deletion is not cleanup. What matters not is what condition the article is in; what matters is whether the topic is notable in its own right. You are, essentially, arguing a. it was by a sock (but that's not a valid reason for deletion) and b. it's not a good article (which is also not a reason for deletion). Drmies (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
    NoDrmies. I'm saying it's unsourced which means there's no justification for the one line. I wasn't arguing it was a sock - I added that as after the fact point. MaskedSinger (talk) 17:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
    The thing is that you're saying "it's unsourced", and that is not a valid reason for deletion. "There are no sources" is a better reason, if indeed there are no sources. But for Surautomatism there are sources, as Spinningspark demonstrated, and for Sifflage/Soufflage a solution has now been found. For Aquapasto, Watercolor#Transparency might be a good target for a redirect. Drmies (talk) 17:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
    It's unsourced and there are no sources are the same thing. If you think it should stay at the very least put a tag on it CAT:UNREF WP:ALS MaskedSinger (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
    @MaskedSinger: I think what Drmies meant by saying "there are no sources" is that "a source cannot be found." William2001(talk) 18:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
    @Drmies: Hello. What do you mean by "simply close them?" Close them as keep or delete? Are you telling us to reconsider our delete !votes? Just confused about what message you and Uncle G are trying to get across. Thanks. William2001(talk) 18:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

    Buckets and pigeons

     
    This German bucket is from New Gallifrey, Doktoro, which we are told is at the end of the universe. I think that that might be a conflation with New Gallifrey, perhaps.

    I don't know what seasoning Doktoro is covered in that makes xem smell, but all that I am asking is that people check out what is said in books so that we have what is right rather than what User:Daniel C. Boyer gave us. If pressed on the subject, I would argue that a prophylactic redirect at soufflage is the best course of action, because people are going to read these books that plagiarized Wikipedia and it is best that they get pointed to the right place. Maybe I am wrong about how much there is on the subject, but both the nominator and another person seem happy for a redirect to the section in the larger article. As for the others: please read sources and find out what is correct. I've been slightly busy with the ₹4,000 crore (equivalent to ₹50 billion or A$900 million in 2023) scandal that is threatening to rock the Karnataka government. I've even had to hand over the German buckets at User talk:Hans Adler#Respite, although it seems that the pigeons came home to roost there based upon my past history.

    Uncle G (talk) 23:41, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

    (Totally impertinent aside. Every time I see this thread, I think of Little Adolf (the pigeon) from The Producers. giving a tiny little pigeon salute.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC))
    The June 12 version is about the BPC. And why anyone should try to delete so wondrous an article is beyond me.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    I never cared for pigeons; they signified Old Holland for me--old men training pigeons on rooftops. Drmies (talk) 14:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    With the cameras we have these days, we could get an army of hummingbirds to replace the paparazzi. Drmies (talk) 14:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    I now get to truthfully say that I have just dumped a bucketload of pigeon crap on User talk:Hans Adler. Uncle G (talk) 18:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    Actually, as I live in Pinellas County, I can assure you that St. Petersburg, Florida is the end of the universe. Which end I'm not at liberty to say.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    Hänschen klein gets all the bad luck.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    Did someone mention gluck?? ["The Bird Of The Wilderness" available on YouTube] Martinevans123 (talk) 20:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    Looks more like Unglück. Though I should not cluck about it.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:08, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

    DYK for Ali Eisami

    Latest comment: 5 years ago8 comments3 people in discussion
     

    On5 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ali Eisami, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ali Eisami (pictured), a Kanuri man, dictated his memoirs of his captivity to German missionary and linguist Sigismund Koelle, and helped him produce a Kanuri grammar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ali Eisami. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ali Eisami), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    — Maile (talk) 00:01, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

     
    Franz Kafka

    Thank you for another good one. Slave memories, banned memories, admonished memories (short version, + hope is precious) ... thanks from cabal of the outcast. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

    Did you ever add Adriaan de Bruin and the other to the stats? Or do I have to do that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

    Edward Banayoti

    Latest comment: 5 years ago6 comments4 people in discussion

    A controversial article receiving far too much attention. User:FRANCISBONNICI has been repeatedly attempting to whitewash the article. I have reverted him (more than I should but I'm considering it quasi-vandalism), but he keeps doing it. I warned him he'd be blocked if he persisted, but that's not stopping him, and, much as I think he deserves to be blocked, I don't feel comfortable doing so. In addition to the reverts, I've also done some editing of the article, so I'm WP:INVOLVED. If you could at least keep an eye on the article, that would be helpful.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:42, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    Anyone stepping into this should also see:

    and the OTRS ticket (given on the article's talk page). Uncle G (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

    May also be worth noting that the subject of the article has recently been in (repeated, indeed, persistent) contact with OTRS demanding that the article be deleted... remarkable coincidence that FRANCISBONNICI showed up only a couple of days later to try and remove all the bits that Mr Banayoti objected to. Yunshui 雲水 14:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
    Haha, yes. BTW I don't have OTRS glasses, and I aim to keep it that way--but thank you to all the folks who do. Drmies (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

    check user

    Latest comment: 5 years ago10 comments5 people in discussion

    I think the check user bit would help me sift unblock requests, but there's no way to request it and I'm afraid of rejection. Is their anything I should know? Thanks  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

    Are you saying you want to be a checkuser or you want to request a check on certain unblock requests?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    You can request it or you can take the easy route, like I did: run for ArbCom! And then you can run CU on me, and see I’m at Starbucks. Damn! I should be on their free WiFi! Drmies (talk) 21:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    As far as I know, you cannot request CU permissions from ArbCom. At various intervals, ArbCom invites self-nominations. When they do it next, you could apply. In the meantime, though, you can block Drmies for being at Starbucks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
    From memory, Starbucks is okay, only Dunkin' Donuts is against policy, and Country Style if you're on this side of the 49th (Dunkin' in Quebec is okay), but I haven't had access to checkuser for a couple months now and things might have changed. As for the question: the process is Arbcom-driven and as I recall they appoint oversighters and checkusers (important: it's not an election) once a year in about October, just before the Arbcom elections get going, and they announce they're seeking applicants about a month in advance. They also do their own recruitment, and if you're interested it probably doesn't hurt to let the arbs know. Maybe closer to the time, though, they're pretty busy with, er, stuff, right now. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:01, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
    "do their own recruitment" What do you base that on?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
    I remember we put up some notification on the Arb noticeboard or something--Keilana, am I dreaming? Drmies (talk) 00:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
    Hmmm, I remember a recruitment officer visiting our junior high school, making CU seem like a grand adventure where you travel the world, meet interesting people ... and indef them. Of course it was all very sexist back then and girls weren't really invited. Times have changed, I guess, what with all this soccer rigamarole. Softlavender (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
    Re: "do their own recruitment": maybe I've got the facts wrong on that. I recall being asked if I was interested, rather than expressing interest on my own. Doesn't really matter, though. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

    Thanks y'all, though I won't comment on what I think Starbucks coffee tastes like. Yes, I know the Cu's are busy, and if I could just check some of these sock block appealers myself, it would lessen their load.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:54, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

    Books & Bytes Issue 34, May – June 2019

    Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

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    U1Quattro and YBSOne saga

    Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

    Sorry I didn't see your ping, but until Yoshida Shoji is done, I effectively cannot be pinged. Thanks for handling it. I actually chose to go with no action, since the edit in question is from February (they both edit the same articles, so there's bound to be some overlap), but I suppose it was, technically, a violation. Oh well. El_C 19:09, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

    • Sorry if I wasn't clear — I wasn't alluding to the last block. The July edit interacted with an edit from February. El_C 21:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

    DYK Kang Daniel

    Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    I read your comment about the hook. I actually use the same term listed on Guinness World Records for that. Do you have any other suggestion for that? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moon Gin (talk • contribs) 07:26, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

    Departure

    Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

    Maybe this last exchange can shed some light on your question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hippo43). Like i said in my thread in Matty's page, that person feels i am the ONLY editor in football that needs cleaning up, all the time everywhere. Most of the time (if not ALWAYS) articles are left in worse condition than they were after their "cleanup", last example being Juan Antonio Anquela.

    No point engaging in a WP:ANI report, or proving or disproving WP:HOUND, i'm done with this crap! If the other user wanted this outcome they can pat themselves on the back (and maybe one day, if/when someones does to them what they have done to me, they will understand), if not this was all pointless in the end, but all in all WP is in good hands (in 2019 as it was in 2006 when i started).

    Cheers, take care as well --Quite A Character (talk) 18:17, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

    Thank you

    Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    Thank you very much for taking care of that IP! I was lying on the couch trying to figure out whether to drag the IP to ANI or request semi-protection or wait for a 3RR violation, but you nipped the issue quickly and saved me a lot of diff-digging for which I greatly appreciate! I'm sure the range block will be very helpful. Aoi (青い) (talk) 18:22, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

    Achtung! Alles deutscher Getalkpagedoktorenmisenlurkerer!

    Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    Der Artiklefürdeletionnomminator nicht gefounden sources hast, parce que het Googlen Searchenengine upturnen les Veryoldenbooks in der Blackletter und Foreign gewritten. Hilf das Nomminator mit lo gefinden auf des sources pour le Mittleeuropeanen State von Isenburg-Kempenich, voor Artikle miglioramento! Bitte. Uncle G (talk) 19:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

    Arbitration and Enforcement

    Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments4 people in discussion

    How do I initiate an arbitration and enforcement request against Snooganssnoogans? -JohnTopShelf (talk) 02:56, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

    To quote Vanamonde93 on the AE page, "they need to demonstrate their ability to edit without a battleground attitude before they return to it." A retaliatory filing doesn't seem like a very good way to go about proving that you aren't taking a battleground attitude. Acroterion (talk) 03:29, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    Well, if you go to WP:ARE you can click on the link that goes "Click here to add a new enforcement request". And as Acroterion says, or suggests, it's probably a really bad idea. Here's the thing. You edited in a way that a half a dozen admins thought was unacceptable. You can choose one of two ways (well, three ways, if you count just forgetting about Wikipedia and instead growing your own food)--you can make sure that you know what those admins (and others) were talking about, since it's likely that they actually know how to do this, and try to edit accordingly, and then file an appeal; or you can file against Snoogans, in an effort that will a. likely not be successful; b. backfire spectacularly on your own efforts. Anyway, if you are going to file that, make sure it's to the point, phrased neutrally, and is larded with just enough diffs to make your case. And if you're going to grow your own food, I hope you have better luck than me. Drmies (talk) 23:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    Sorry to hear that you have trouble growing food too. In my case, I think the problem is mostly rabbits, but also the heat, insects, and other critters. I had a beautiful artichoke plant with literally (not litterally) dozens of artichoke buds (mostly tiny). I harvested a few very large ones and was thrilled that I'd finally found something I could grow successfully. Then, a coupla days later I went out to discover that some demon-creature had dug right through the roots, and my precious plant had fallen over into a limp heap. But I keep trying. I hope we both start having better luck. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:26, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

    Clyde Foster nomination

    I'm too lazy to start a new thread, so I'm just doing this here. To avoid delays with Template:Did you know nominations/Clyde Foster, I recommend taking care of a few things before a reviewer shows up. First, the hook, at 228 characters, is over the 200 limit. Then, there are two hook facts that don't appear in the article. They'll need to be added and sourced (or removed from the hook). While it's implied, the article never actually says he was African-American. It also never says anything about von Braun being a former Nazi rocket scientist. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
    Yep, that one was in there and now the Nazi bit is in there too. I'm not quite sure what to do with his color. I am not going to stick "African American" in the opening line if we don't do that kind of thing for white people. Anyone who looks at the Undefeated article can see his picture. I looked at the article to find a place to put it in, but the more I look the more it seems silly to me in the article--yet in the hook it's necessary, of course. But I can find a spot. I shortened the hook too--thanks for counting. Drmies (talk) 03:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
    I'm slightly less lazy today, so I inserted a subsection heading. You managed to add the race in a natural way, and I think the shortened hook is better. I would add some categories such as Category:African-American academics, Category:African-American mathematicians, Category:African-American mayors, and Category:African-American military personnel, but I'll let you take care of that if you so desire. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

    Clyde Foster

    Latest comment: 4 years ago13 comments5 people in discussion

    Hi-Many thanks for starting the Clyde Foster article. I found the Clyde Foster obituary and added it to the article as a citation. You may want to look at it. Again my thanks-RFD (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

    Doktoro, you get paid in units of currency. You do not get paid in units of temperature. You have not got the hang of paid editing at all. Uncle G (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

    It is spot the difference time. And there are differences.

    Also note these:

    And the images here, including the AAAM one:

    Uncle G (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

    Lancegate listed at Redirects for discussion

    Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
     

    An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Lancegate. Since you had some involvement with the Lancegate redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

    Darts

    Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    Maybe I am overly suspicious, but I get a very bad vibe about editor DartsforWindows. His username is the same as his (personal??) website and a darts game. And in most of his edits he is mentioning that website. (S)He denies any wrongdoing at User talk:DartsforWindows, but it still gives me the creeps. Can you (or one of your TPS) take a look at it? The Banner talk 08:42, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

    Locations of Costa Coffee worldwide

    Latest comment: 4 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

    Hey there, just wondering in relation to the Costa Coffee page, would you support the inclusion of a table similar to List of countries with IKEA stores as part of the Costa Coffee page, as seen in other retail chains' pages as well? Looking for consensus since I have no interest in an edit war but I do believe this to be valuable information worthy of inclusion. Cheers. SharkyIzrod (talk) 14:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

    (talk page stalker) WP:Gazetteer?Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    I've since redone the list as sortable tables (by continent) with I believe no MOS violations (no flags, no overlinking). Hopefully that's agreeable to all. SharkyIzrod (talk) 06:18, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
    Much better, SharkyIzrod, thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

    Butterfingers!

    Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

    I assume you meant this...   Yunshui 雲水 15:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

    Glad to see I'm not the only one whose templates slip thought the fingers and scatter on the floor.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    Yunshui, Dlohcierekim (didn't see this until just now), interesting--but hold on. First, the template/block I used also has "or suggests that you do not intend to contribute positively to the encyclopedia"--note the "or". I should have used the template you used, of course, but not because the first was the wrong one, but because the editor had "used [the account] for advertising or promotion". I don't know why I slipped this time, it's possible I had buttery fingers. Thanks for correcting. Drmies (talk) 12:46, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

    St. Martin, Lorch

    Latest comment: 4 years ago8 comments2 people in discussion

    Thank you for the review and the better refs, - I am sorry not to get to it soon, - another person died whose in article is poor, Werner Müller (politician), so that will come first, + RL, see my talk for the evening. The "kostbarstes Kunstwerk des Bistums Limburg" thing about the altar is found several places, but nothing serious so far. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

    So you like Ice cream

    Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion
      ~ Visitor ~ east of LSU ~
    One day I will be in your area ~ and I would like to have (it appears I've been missing out)
    ~ of some great BBQ ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC) ~ This was the Last time I got directions in Mobile via I~10toCorry Station Pensacola ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    And tell Spike I'll be glad to work it out with her/him (from the library). ~mitch~ (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    did it involve reading road signs billboards and showing up at the game late ~ ? ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 20:27, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    Punchline ~ Gives me plenty of time

    you know... Grrrr ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 15:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

    Spike don't forget to eat your Wheaties Austin,Texas ~mitch~ (talk) 15:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

    Hey Drmies ~ did you know about an edit made here ~ I don't know who would have done such a thing ~ total disrespect ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 02:53, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

    The Netherlands during the war

    Latest comment: 4 years ago10 comments3 people in discussion

    I just read a fascinating new book, Dutch Girl: Audrey Hepburn and World War II, which informed me in a major way about the Netherlands during World War II. Amazing stuff! Since the Netherlands was a neutral non-combatant I don't think many Americans etc. have any idea of what happened in that country (even if they've read The Diary of Anne Frank or viewed A Bridge Too Far, both of which obviously miss virtually everything). I had no idea of the deepening nightmare (and the strong resistance and intrigue) that went on in the Netherlands -- particularly in the towns of Arnhem, Velp, and Oosterbeek, which are precisely the towns Hepburn lived in. The book also mentions The Hague, Rotterdam, and Amsterdam, but most of the action takes place in the three towns I mentioned, which coincidentally got the brunt of the misery of the five long years of war.

    I highly recommend this book to anybody interested in the Netherlands during World War II. It is a wonderful, personalized, "you are there" recreation.

    -- Softlavender (talk) 06:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

    Not a non-combatant.
    I'm currently reading this:
    Describes many deeply traumatic events. MPS1992 (talk) 12:18, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    Interesting--thanks. Not yet in paperback... Drmies (talk) 12:48, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    Dutch Girl describes many deeply traumatic events as well.

    By the way, The Cut Out Girl can be gotten very cheaply (a couple of bucks) via bookfinder.com: [3] (prices include shipping). The same will be true of Dutch Girl once it's been out longer (was just published in April). Softlavender (talk) 23:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

    Indeed, The Cut Out Girl has been sold in paperback in Europe for some months now. I could mail one if there is a shortage. I cannot recommend it for raising one's mood, although is it superior in that respect to The German Girl, a book with similar topic related to those saved by Gustav SchröderonMS St. Louis. People involved included Cordell Hull and Frederick Blair. MPS1992 (talk) 00:40, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
    That's one thing I liked about Dutch Girl -- although it depicted years of deeply traumatic events, because of the (loose, sometimes) overarching focus on Audrey Hepburn and her extended family and friends and all of their activities, the tone was lightened and the book was good to "curl up with", even during the retelling of the worst of the starvation, executions, and relentless bombing. Softlavender (talk) 01:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
    Yeah. Really cannot recommend The German Girl, it is relentless unhappiness. The Cut Out Girl supposedly has an uplifting ending, but I have not got there yet and am sceptical anyway. MPS1992 (talk) 01:46, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
    The German Girl is a novel though. I think Drmies wants nonfiction/history/biography .... Softlavender (talk) 02:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
    You'd think if someone was writing fiction, they could at least try having a happier tone. Although, I suppose Hollywood gets criticized for doing too much of that. Also, the distinction is not quite so clear -- The German Girl has just as many period photos of the supposed protaganists as The Cut-Out Girl. And the latter admits some of its content is slightly more recovered than first-hand. Anyway, one has a Dutch relevance and the other does not. MPS1992 (talk) 03:34, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

    Ugh -- a 40,000-byte self-promotional autobiography

    Latest comment: 4 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

    Just noticed this mess: Richard Rappaport. Written by the artist himself or close associate (IP from Pittsburgh). Christ much of it's even written in present tense. Plus 16 of his own paintings. Softlavender (talk) 02:31, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

    UPDATE: I AfDed it. Softlavender (talk) 02:48, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

    Robert M. Schoch

    Latest comment: 4 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

    Can you take a look at this article? IPs are objecting to the focus on fringe in the article and want to remove fringe from the lead and change a few other things. There is also a somewhat difficult to follow discussion about this at WP:BLPN, although in my view there's no reason it can't be held on the article Talk page. I imagine the IPs have a COI with respect to Schoch. In my view, it's a lousy article, but unless it's expanded in some way, I don't see how fringe can be taken out of the lead because at the moment the only issue discussed in the article is Schoch's fringe theory. Anyway, you're an academic (smile), so this should be right up your alley. And, of course, you have Uncle to help (second smile).--Bbb23 (talk) 13:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

    • I'm impressed. You're handy at Wikipedia and you're handy at home? I do some useful work at Wikipedia, but I'm lucky if I can use a screwdriver at home. I can tighten the screws on cupboards when the hinges get loose. I can, with help, string an extension cord from the downstairs to the upstairs when the power goes out (we have an emergency generator but it only supplies electricity to the downstairs). I'm running out of examples of things I can do.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Well, if you were over six feet tall I could have used you today. But like my very tall friend (whom I called for help) said, "owning homes is for the birds. Rent!" 00:58, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

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    Nevada

    Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

    I heard from a little birdie (you on a talk page) that you are traveling to Nevada in September, wearing new shoes? What city? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:50, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

    Revision visibility on Michael Z. Williamson

    Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    I noticed that you OS'd Michael's edit summary on his legal threat edit, but the diff itself is still publicly available. I thought you might have intended to OS the entire diff so I'm posting this here as a heads-up. Thanks! --letcreate123 (talk) 19:05, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

    ~ bot ~

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    Drmies ~ I just saw the bot come by ~ So how's it feel ~ sitting on your front porch and letting someone else take care of your business ~ you know it reminds me of the time that a few yahoo's changed the name of an Island ~ I don't care what their intentions were ~ I still think that when you look at a Frozen piece of land ~ you better get your shoes on ~ because it's going to get real cold ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 04:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

    English Professor Vacuum

    Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    I once rescued Jugging (AfD discussion). I recently likewise turned my hand to Figgy pudding (AfD discussion). In the course of it I discovered a very useful source that I plan to wave at anyone who thinks that infomercials in a Pommie newspaper or the Smithsonian quoting NPR quoting Debbie Waugh are good sources for conflating fig pudding and plum pudding. It was written by an English Professor who knew about food.

    Constance Bartlett Hieatt was an English Professor.

    Further reading

    Life

    Works

    Stuff

    This substub at AFC is almost as bad as those ″X is a person″ re-stubbings that we used to do.

    Middle English and food, including pig product. And a pop-culture page on IMDB, too. This is definitely completely the wrong user talk page.

    You are good if from this you can find the UChic Press book reviews from 1973. ☺

    Uncle G (talk) 16:29, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

    You've got mail!

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    Privacy

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    Uncle G (talk) 19:32, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

    Chitra Sarwara

    Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments4 people in discussion

    Hasn't the editor writing this article had enough warnings by now? I have the article watchlisted because I removed the WP:BLPPROD tag, but it's impossible for me to get to grips with the topic properly, to determine whether this article should even be here, while such editing without explanation or discussion is happening. Don't you think that, in the absence of any reply to the previous warnings, it's time for a block? Phil Bridger (talk) 18:10, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

    For what it's worth, this quacks like a duck, but is obviously stale:

    I have my suspicions about these:

    I have reverted the egregious infringements of the BLP policy (q.v.) at Nirmal Singh (Haryana) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), too. Uncle G (talk) 20:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

    I leave looking at these to other people:

    Uncle G (talk) 21:13, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

    In other good news, all are now welcome(d)! MPS1992 (talk) 21:50, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

    Protected List of ABS-CBN drama series

    Latest comment: 4 years ago12 comments4 people in discussion

    I just want to protect the article of List of ABS-CBN drama series as well as doing the article of List of GMA Network drama series (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/839995081) thank you. Barneysss (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

    • Thanks Bbb, but don't overestimate my knowledge: I didn't check BM and I don't know how smart some of these people are, whether they move on to some other range after being blocked. But thanks again. What a mess. Drmies (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    • My mistake. I looked at so many CU logs I mistakenly thought you had checked BM. Just so you know, Aaron and BM edit from different countries.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:51, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    HiDrmies! I apologize for the delay responding to your ping here. Did you still need me to compare edits between Between Maybes and another user (which user were you looking into originally?), or are things settled and closed now? If you still need me to do anything, just let me know (ping me in your response so that I'm notified) and I'll be happy to help. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
    Hey Oshwah, I don't think so--but I pinged you in part also as a kind of nudge, like, "hey, you know this may be pretty big, right?" given the amount of socking. Thanks Oshwah, Drmies (talk) 21:15, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
    No problem! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:21, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

    What are the options. I just wanted to protect you in the List of GMA Network drama series in the same way you do the List of ABS-CBN drama series. Barneysss (talk) 15:00, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

    Try WP:RFPP because i just want to protect the article of ABS-CBN drama Thank You. Barneysss (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

    Radio show

    Latest comment: 4 years ago8 comments3 people in discussion

    Hey, Drmies, I noticed you removed the list of radio shows here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buono!&oldid=907847619 This was the group's radio show and it was also endorsed by Pizza-La, one of their biggest sponsors. But I also noticed Kim Jong-hyun (singer) had a radio show listing as well? lullabying (talk) 18:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

    Steven B. Damelin

    Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    This is one of your checkuser blocks, and you left instructions to use the main account. Xe wants the main account, now OTRS verified, unblocked and the autobiography undeleted. See the rest of the talk page for details. Uncle G (talk) 05:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

    Jew with a coin has been nominated for Did You Know

    Latest comment: 4 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion
     

    Hello, Drmies. Jew with a coin, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know . You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. EnterpriseyBot (talk!) 10:05, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

    Eric Francis Coppolino

    Latest comment: 4 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

    Please pass this on to your fellow checkusers, who will know why. Uncle G (talk) 23:49, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

    Gary Graffman

    Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

    Deckoffa (talk · contribs · count) is adding material to this article that is clearly inappropriate. Worse, as you can see from their contribution history, they are adding the same material to multiple articles. I warned them of BLP violations at BLPN (after I removed the material from many pages), but they have undone all my removals. The issue of whether their edits are in fact BLP violations is dicey. Jascha Brodsky, the alleged molester, died in 1997. However, his accuser, Lara St. John, is very much alive, Graffman is alive, as is Roberto Díaz. The user has been reverted by others than just me, mainly SPECIFICO, but regardless of whether Deckoffa is violating BLP, adding WP:COATRACKy material, or simply being disruptive, it's not a clear enough policy violation for me (INVOLVED) to block the editor, which is what I think they deserve. Based on their latest comments at BLPN, their crusade seems to matter more to them than anything else.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

    • I read your comments at BLPN. I'm happy to bow out of this as I think your analysis is far better and nuanced than mine. As you know, my judgment is sometimes colored by attitude, and this fits into one of those cases. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:58, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

    Question about band articles

    Latest comment: 4 years ago12 comments5 people in discussion

    Hey, Drmies! I hope you don't mind me asking but I saw your edit on King & Prince where you removed tables and information about the members in the group (seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_%26_Prince&oldid=887192957). I've actually been really confused because there are a lot of J-pop related articles like Angerme, Iris (Japanese band), Camellia Factory, etc. that insist on listing birthdates and assigned colors for members. Since J-pop doesn't have large international appeal compared to other mainstream bands like X Japan and Luna Sea and K-pop groups like Iz One, the pages are largely maintained by fans who think this sort of information is important (I even had a long discussion at Talk:Buono! with an editor who insisted on keeping this info). I asked around but Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians seems mostly inactive and I'm not sure what to do. Thanks! lullabying (talk) 16:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

    I'm getting out the iron brush out for that page. The members should be listed as Hi-5 (Australian band) AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:30, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

    User:85.243.225.246

    Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    I think that the Portuguese disruptive user is back as 85.243.225.246 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (formerly 85.242.48.58 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). SLBedit (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

    didn't want to grave dance

    Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
     
    What profit it a man if he gains the world and loses his ass?-- (talk)

    So I'll just leave this here.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 02:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

    Warren Cook Alan Cook

    Latest comment: 4 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

    user:Warren Cook Alan Cook is abusing his talkpage. CLCStudent (talk) 00:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

    Ahem! Come on, Doktoro! Try harder at the old youth cred. You will have to learn who Isabela Moner is at some point. Uncle G (talk) 16:25, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

    It's August

    Latest comment: 4 years ago9 comments4 people in discussion

    It's August. It's 10,000 degrees outside. Permission to one-click archive the Xmas messages (from literally unknown years) at the top of this page? Softlavender (talk) 00:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

    It is only August 2 UTC, Softlavender. Please read Christmas in July. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    WP:IDONTLIKEIT. -- Softlavender (talk) 00:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    Cullen, is that a CoC thing? Softlavender, knock yourself out--I don't know why it hasn't been removed yet. Also it's only in the 90s here. Drmies (talk) 01:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    The bot only archives things that have date stamps, so if holiday templates don't have dates, they don't get bot-archived. You have to do those manually or via a tool like one-click. Softlavender (talk) 01:33, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    Or have you do it! Thanks! Drmies (talk) 01:36, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    The Chamber of Commerce and the fat guys with bushy white beards who own red suits trimmed with white fur want Christmas season to last 365 days a year. Here's a film for your August viewing: Christmas in July (film). Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    The consensus seems to be that the templates were left without appropriate expiry materiel. If so, this is banned under upcoming EU legislation. I will send the templates (already removed) back, unless anyone objects. MPS1992 (talk) 03:26, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    I don't know what you mean exactly, MPS. As for legislation...well. Drmies (talk) 00:37, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

    user:Here comes the tickle monster

    Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments4 people in discussion

    I was surprised to see this user be blocked for violating the username policy. I was just curious about which policy she violated. CLCStudent (talk) 23:38, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

    It's not he-who-must-not-be-named, but that was pretty good. A ticklish edit at best.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 23:46, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

    I blocked User:Voldemort. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:50, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    I've never heard of Skymhnty. Compromised account? Maybe mine is up for sale too. Wait, Tony, wasn't I one of your socks? User:Dlohcierekim, I'm too old for tickles. BTW I am sure you two have run into CLCStudent before: they do a lot of good work here. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
    And if we lived in a world not designed by the French existentialists, they'd be an admin.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
    Skymhnty is a weird one. Don't know how they got the Voldemort password. Probably myspace. But wrong continent based on the logs which is how Risker and I decided it was compromised. CLCStudent does a lot of good work. Drmies, I'm both you and Volunteer Marek. I'm also a communist fascist zionist nazi antisemite social justice warrior transphobic bigot depending on which banned user on which forum you ask. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

    My question on edits by a valued editor

    Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

    If you (or any stalker) can spare some of your valuable time, can you take a quick look at User talk:Wehwalt/Archive 21#Richard Nixon resignation? I questioned an edit the user made on a section (the lede) that appears to me to be against consensus. The user persists in this, even after a month of further discussion (Talk:Richard Nixon#Resignation in lede).

    I am asking for no more than enough of your time to determine if there's some quick and simple resolution that I've missed, such as I (or anyone else) being way off base here. A more detailed analysis would be welcomed, but if it involves anything more than a simple judgement, it's probably not worth your time. It's all over a small textual difference; the reason I haven't just dropped this is that I'm perplexed on why such an experienced and valued editor seems to be at odds with basic WP policy just on this one small issue; I'm left wondering if I'm the one very mistaken, and need education on WP policy. That's why I'm asking for a quick review.

    Even a lack of response here is fine; I'll assume there's no simple answer, and I'm prepared to start an RFC to resolve and understand this. --A D Monroe III(talk) 16:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

    Thanks for you time and input.
    I accept what you say overall, but for completeness, I'll clarify a couple points. I think you're getting the RFC backwards. The RFC was about breaking the first sentence into two, with the resignation being the new 2nd sentence; the RFC was defeated, preserving a single sentence that contained the resignation, as the first sentence of the article.
    I agree that the RFC isn't everything. (Though it's not nothing, of course; some reason should be given to go against it, and none was ever provided.) However, the consensus I'm saying the user is going against was the one active at the moment of the edit, in Talk:Richard Nixon#Resignation in lede. All the other users commenting stated agreement with the wording at the start of the discussion, which was also in agreement with the form at the end of the RFC. So consensus not only did not change, but was confirmed.
    I know the actual change isn't a big deal in the article itself, and by that measure isn't very important. If I did start a new RFC, many might respond with "why bother?" But besides the principle of the thing, wanted to ensure I know how WP works, so I know how to function withing it. I've always assumed consensus should overrule a single user's edits at some point. Based on what you're saying, some users get they own way regardless, just by being disagreeable and stubborn. I'm not like that, and never will be. Sadly, I guess my contributions to WP will have to be confined to retreat from sight of these editors.
    Again, thanks for your time. --A D Monroe III(talk) 19:08, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
    A D Monroe, I didn't say "some users get they own way regardless", and I don't think Wehwalt or you are being unreasonable in your insistence. Drmies (talk) 22:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
    But that's the point. If neither of us are unreasonable, then his edit reasonable prevails regardless of consensus where mine reasonably wouldn't. Ergo, we're not equal editors. Though disheartening, I must simply accept this. No response necessary. Thanks again. --A D Monroe III(talk) 16:14, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    So why do I get the feeling you're somehow blaming me for this, as if I am somehow endorsing Wehwalt's edit by fiat? No response necessary: this belongs on the article talk page, without Drmies in it. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    Sorry! I guess I was venting, but not at you! (Not intentionally, anyway.) This thread belongs nowhere, as there's nothing to be done. I think it should be deleted, as it can do no good, but might harm in some way. --A D Monroe III(talk) 16:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

    Administrators' newsletter – August 2019

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