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:Yes indeed, choripán is a simple chorizo sandwich.<ref>http://www.minutouno.com.ar/minutouno/nota/120378-Los-mejores-choripanes-porte%C3%B1os/</ref> Choripán, bocadillo de chorizo criollo in french bread<ref>http://exteriores.libertaddigital.com/macri-es-un-peronista-mas-1276236258.html</ref> Buenos Aires, choripán a sanwich of chorizo.<ref>http://www.hoy.com.do/vivir/2004/10/7/25604/print</ref> DRAE-Choripán-idiom-arg, Cuba, El Salv., Par. y Ur. - chorizo sandwich.<ref>http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/</ref> If all reliable sources claim it is a bocadillo/sandwich/bocata/emparedado of chorizo and choripán is idiom for bocadillo de chorizo i dont see where the invention is, perhaps you mean tipical. Even the article is explaining in its context that it is a sandwich made with french bread. If you describe beer with another name, dont mean you have invented beer. [[User:Rafax|Rafax]] ([[User talk:Rafax|talk]]) 19:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC) |
:Yes indeed, choripán is a simple chorizo sandwich.<ref>http://www.minutouno.com.ar/minutouno/nota/120378-Los-mejores-choripanes-porte%C3%B1os/</ref> Choripán, bocadillo de chorizo criollo in french bread<ref>http://exteriores.libertaddigital.com/macri-es-un-peronista-mas-1276236258.html</ref> Buenos Aires, choripán a sanwich of chorizo.<ref>http://www.hoy.com.do/vivir/2004/10/7/25604/print</ref> DRAE-Choripán-idiom-arg, Cuba, El Salv., Par. y Ur. - chorizo sandwich.<ref>http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/</ref> If all reliable sources claim it is a bocadillo/sandwich/bocata/emparedado of chorizo and choripán is idiom for bocadillo de chorizo i dont see where the invention is, perhaps you mean tipical. Even the article is explaining in its context that it is a sandwich made with french bread. If you describe beer with another name, dont mean you have invented beer. [[User:Rafax|Rafax]] ([[User talk:Rafax|talk]]) 19:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC) |
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And so what? Your sources report where |
And so what? Your sources report where was invented the choripán? Mine, yes... [[User:Ferbr1|Ferbr1]] ([[User talk:Ferbr1|talk]]) 20:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC) |
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While argentinians claim the invention of this simple grilled chorizo french bread sandwich[1], this is an ancestral meal eaten by the Roman empire for over 2000 years.[2][3]
The conquerors, introduced bread and chorizo into the Americas from the iberian peninsula[4], in where its consumption is supposed to be a millenarian tradition[5] in all ways you could imagine.[6] [7][8][9][10][11][12][13] In Spain, there is a different recipe for making chorizos in every province, and only in one village, they gave 12.000 chorizo sandwiches away in the chorizo festivity.[14] The merits of the claim are based around the argentinian neologism[15] used in the acronym choripan and in claiming that chorizos are made in a different way (beef+pork) even though they are still called chorizos and they make them in different ways (pork)[16] too.[17][18] In Spain, , this sandwich is called bocadillo/bocata de chorizo asado.[19][20][21][22] On the other hand, theres also argentinian chorizos made like the spanish fresh chorizos for grilling 100 per cent made with pork[23], just like in Spain.[24] Furthermore, they even claim that real choripanes are made with 100% pork chorizos.[25] One of the references in the article supposed to be valuable claims that an argentinian invention is succeding in Israel, but its also been said that the chorizo used in there is not the same used in Argentina[26] due to the restriction of the arabs for the pork. In the argentinian television, they call it bread with chorizo.[27]just how they call it in Spain.[28] In Argentina, before 1940, it wasnt called choripan.[29]
Being all said so controversial, this article needs to be revised by neutral users. Rafax (talk) 00:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, but I have reliable sources, and sources say what they say. Your opinion are not over the sources. This afirmation: "References claiming that french bread and chorizo is an argentinian invention should never be taken seriously", is a fallacy called Reductio ad Hitlerum, and this afirmation: "The Roman empire were lovers of chorizo and bread, they used to grill them and eat them with bread in grills they had on the streets and in taverns", is a fallacy called Anecdotal evidence
Additionally, I hereby inform you that this webpage is a blog, and here, in Wikipedia, you do not use blogs... Ferbr1 (talk) 13:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
From Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources: "Mainstream news sources, especially those at the high-quality end of the market, are considered to be generally reliable". Then, [1], [2][3] and [4] are ok. My reliable sources say, expressly and literally, that the choripán was invented in Argentina. Have you reliable sources that contradict them expressly and literally? Or you will be still you doing original investigation from the sources? Ferbr1 (talk) 18:45, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And so what? Your sources report where was invented the choripán? Mine, yes... Ferbr1 (talk) 20:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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