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1 Tribute Wall WP:CANDOR  
9 comments  


1.1  Content & Conduct Disputes  







2 WP:PA on Antifa (United States)? Comment on content, not other editors  
1 comment  




3 Incivility at Talk:Antifa (United States)  
2 comments  




4 WP:ANI - December 2020  
2 comments  




5 Rebecca Walo Omana - Help with French translation - is she a nun?  
5 comments  




6 WP:USEPRIMARY on SoS Antony Blinken - January 2021  
1 comment  




7 Transition of Power - Presidency of Donald Trump  
9 comments  




8 Policy and guideline changes, especially regarding C-SPAN and fair use  
1 comment  




9 WP:Competence is required on the The Promised Land (sculpture) in February 2021  
8 comments  




10 Sanaa music scene: Qanbus and Yemenite chant: French translation assistance  
5 comments  




11 New moon of spring Aviv-Nisan, March 14 2021 Mainpage "On this day" or "News"  
6 comments  




12 Group Member notice  
1 comment  




13 March 2021 Misogyny & Male Chauvinism (IMHO)  
20 comments  




14 Citing "oral tradition" on Rabbi  
1 comment  




15 March 2021  
1 comment  




16 Disambiguation link notification for March 27  
1 comment  




17 Sources at Exodus  
1 comment  




18 Passover  
4 comments  




19 Easter  
1 comment  




20 Primary sources and synthesis at God in Judaism?  
5 comments  




21 Request for assistance-Messiah in Judaism  
3 comments  




22 A summary of site policies and guidelines you may find useful  





23 No original research of Ancient or Medieval sources  
3 comments  




24 Sabbath of vision moved to draftspace  
3 comments  




25 CHOPSY  
9 comments  




26 Karaite Judaism and Saducees  
3 comments  




27 April 2021  
1 comment  




28 Disambiguation link notification for April 27  
1 comment  




29 Concern regarding Draft:Constitution Day (Spain)  
1 comment  




30 Concern regarding Draft:Iron Front (United States)  
1 comment  




31 Translation petition  
1 comment  




32 Badkhin moved to draftspace  
3 comments  




33 Disambiguation link notification for May 28  
1 comment  




34 Your draft article, Draft:Iron Front (United States)  
1 comment  




35 Disambiguation link notification for June 23  
1 comment  




36 Spanish to English Question  
1 comment  




37 June 2021  
1 comment  




38 Disambiguation link notification for June 30  
1 comment  




39 Draft:Ronot society  
1 comment  




40 Moved talk archives  
1 comment  




41 Proposed deletion of Alexander Kaye  
1 comment  




42 Anti semitism at wikipedia  
1 comment  




43 Please don't troll  
1 comment  




44 Concern regarding Draft:Sabbath of vision  
1 comment  




45 Concern regarding Draft:Basic Errors in Modern Thought  
1 comment  




46 Wikipedia:Etiquette  
1 comment  




47 Your draft article, Draft:Sabbath of vision  
1 comment  




48 Concern regarding Draft:Badkhin  
2 comments  




49 Your submission at Articles for creation: Badkhin (November 2)  
2 comments  




50 November 2021 - Attributions  
2 comments  




51 Disambiguation link notification for November 12  
1 comment  




52 ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message  
1 comment  




53 Christopher Sykes (filmmaker) moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




54 request for translation help  
2 comments  




55 January 2022  
1 comment  




56 Speedy deletion of Draft:Ricardo Nirenberg  
4 comments  




57 Anti-Judaism edits  
3 comments  




58 Solarian religion  
2 comments  




59 Disambiguation link notification for February 21  
1 comment  




60 Speedy deletion nomination of Jean Lavergne  
2 comments  




61 Peter King (philosopher) moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




62 ANI notice  
1 comment  




63 Speedy deletion nomination of Multnomah County District Attorney  
2 comments  




64 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine  
1 comment  




65 Speedy deletion nomination of National Foundation on the Arts and Humanities  
4 comments  




66 Russian Revolution  
3 comments  




67 Cleinias of Crete moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




68 Eleatic Stranger moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




69 Nomination of Magnesia (hypothetical city) for deletion  
2 comments  




70 About the articles you've been making  
4 comments  




71 Disambiguation link notification for March 15  
1 comment  




72 About making WP:BOLD changes  
1 comment  




73 Speedy deletion nomination of Ernest A. Rappaport  
1 comment  




74 Disambiguation link notification for March 23  
1 comment  




75 March 2022  
1 comment  




76 Whistleblower Aid  
2 comments  




77 Speedy deletion nomination of Rod Underhill (district attorney)  
1 comment  




78 Proposed deletion of Rod Underhill (district attorney)  
1 comment  




79 Disambiguation link notification for March 31  
7 comments  




80 "Arabic and islamic philosophy" listed at Redirects for discussion  
1 comment  




81 Your thread has been archived  
1 comment  




82 Nomination of Octavius Freire Owen for deletion  
1 comment  




83 Disambiguation link notification for April 16  
1 comment  




84 Irony  
2 comments  




85 Important Notice  
1 comment  




86 Important Notice  
1 comment  




87 George Floyd protests  
1 comment  




88 Your draft article, Draft:Badkhin  
1 comment  




89 Disambiguation link notification for May 5  
1 comment  




90 Copyright violation at De-Leninization  
1 comment  




91 Concern regarding Draft:Figura (essay)  
1 comment  




92 Vita Mensae Living Mind (sculpture) moved to draftspace  
2 comments  




93 I have sent you a note about a page you started  
1 comment  




94 Promised Land (disambiguation)  
2 comments  




95 Please provide a reference that the Oxford Group is derived from the Higher Life movement  
1 comment  




96 June 2022 - Giuliani's crossing dressing comedy theater  
22 comments  




97 To Do List  Sandbox for while I'm blocked  





98 Concern regarding Draft:Christopher Sykes (filmmaker)  
1 comment  




99 I have sent you a note about a page you started  
1 comment  




100  Proposed deletion of Accord Network  
1 comment  




101  Nomination of Accord Network for deletion  
1 comment  




102  Your draft article, Draft:Christopher Sykes (filmmaker)  
1 comment  




103  Daniel Fountain  
1 comment  




104  Peter K.J. Park moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




105  Speedy deletion nomination of Rachael Wiseman  
2 comments  




106  Draft:Rachael Wiseman  
1 comment  




107  Disambiguation link notification for July 27  
1 comment  




108  Editing Draft:Letter from Mathilde Lefebvre  
1 comment  




109  Accord Network moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




110  Christopher Twomey moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




111  August 2022  
5 comments  




112  A query  
1 comment  




113  Concern regarding Draft:Federal Council on the Arts and the Humanities  
1 comment  




114  Concern regarding Draft:Sylva sylvarum  
1 comment  




115  Concern regarding Draft:Agoric  
1 comment  




116  Concern regarding Draft:Adam Wolfson  
1 comment  




117  Concern regarding Draft:Cleinias of Crete  
1 comment  




118  Concern regarding Draft:Kallipolis (Plato)  
1 comment  




119  Concern regarding Draft:Orestes complex  
1 comment  




120  Concern regarding Draft:Magnesia (Plato)  
1 comment  




121  Concern regarding Draft:Athenian stranger  
1 comment  




122  Concern regarding Draft:W.T. Jones (philosopher)  
1 comment  




123  Your draft article, Draft:Ricardo Nirenberg  
1 comment  




124  Your draft article, Draft:Federal Council on the Arts and the Humanities  
1 comment  




125  Your draft article, Draft:Sylva sylvarum  
1 comment  




126  Your draft article, Draft:Adam Wolfson  
1 comment  




127  Concern regarding Draft:Ernest A. Rappaport  
1 comment  




128  Your draft article, Draft:Cleinias of Crete  
1 comment  




129  Your draft article, Draft:Kallipolis (Plato)  
1 comment  




130  Your draft article, Draft:Orestes complex  
1 comment  




131  Concern regarding Draft:40 years of wandering  
1 comment  




132  Your draft article, Draft:Magnesia (Plato)  
1 comment  




133  Your draft article, Draft:Ernest A. Rappaport  
1 comment  




134  Speedy deletion nomination of Eventual programming  
1 comment  




135  Eventual programming moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




136  Your draft article, Draft:Athenian stranger  
1 comment  




137  Your draft article, Draft:W.T. Jones (philosopher)  
1 comment  




138  Barnes Carr moved to draftspace  
1 comment  




139  Help  














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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 87.14.198.238 (talk)at21:54, 29 October 2022 (Barnes Carr moved to draftspace). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
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Tribute Wall WP:CANDOR

No one has left me a barnstar yet. You could be the first!

On second thought, I don't need 'em. What I would really appreciate is ... some WP:CANDOR on the following projects and occasional content disputes. But don't take sides with me, take sides with the WP:ENCYCLOPEDIA

Content & Conduct Disputes

Have I been blocked? Rather than simply logging me out with no explanation, will some wise WP:WikiElf please inform this user that he has been blocked, and for how long, and for what subject matter? Read the history on the article Antony Blinken, if you want to know the facts of this dispute. I left them in the edit summaries. Basically, the Knights who say "ni" are at it again. Y'all should stop empowering them. Banishing my kind will have unintended consequences that are harmful to the other species. (Previous content refactored into a separate essay)

Jaredscribe (talk) 11:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC) Jaredscribe (talk) 23:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jaredscribe. You aren't blocked from editing. I'm not sure who the rest of your help request is addressed to. If, after my confirmation, you still need further help, feel free to file another help request with clear and concise questions. Best, Darren-M talk 11:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If this is about the login session expiring often, this happened to me yesterday, seemingly randomly and sometimes minutes apart. I didn't check as it didn't persist but WP:VPT may be a good place to inquire about it. —PaleoNeonate18:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What are you even talking about? —valereee (talk) 23:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks PaleoNeonate, it happened to me a dozen times over the course of a few hours, and I accidentally made some IP edits. I think it was on the National Security Council article, but it might have been elsewhere. Now everyone knows who I really am. :) I didn't know about WP:VPT before, thanks for teaching me something useful.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe some Elf Lord Darren-M could research the database and tell me, because I forgot. If I've committed any vandalism or trolling, or other artwork, I'd like to credited please. And if in the future I do get blocked, will you at least allow my talk page? And where do I go from the outside to learn the status of the account block?Jaredscribe (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If there is a WP:WikiWarlock watching from above and practicing the dark arts on us, please stop. Just tell the world on my tribute wall who I am and what I've done. Wikpedia is all about collaborative research, right? When in doubt, just write an essay. Magic is stupid and unproductive. It takes as payment that which you value most, and the power that it gives in return ends up enslaving the one who wields it.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Valereee Why do you even ask?Jaredscribe (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I ask because I can't figure out what you're getting at. This whole elf/knight epic fantasy thing you think is somehow important re: your recent edits, the fact you seem to think there's a conspiracy w/re that, the fact you aren't blocked and never have been...I just don't get it. What are you even talking about? —valereee (talk) 01:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PAonAntifa (United States)?Comment on content, not other editors

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Antifa (United States). If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Bacondrum (talk) 20:54, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the discussion page, I alleged that a non-WP:NPOV exists in the article. I furthermore observed that, the page being protected to users with 500+ edits, you were allowed to edit it and I, as a newb, was not. Your demand for references of the obvious - the relationship between Antifa, Antifaschistische_Aktion, and the KPD - references which are clearly cited on that very page, strikes me as disingenuous and obscurantist. My pointing out the very real difference in privelege between us is valid, and not personal. These constitute "attacks", if you insist, on editing and administrative behavior, not on any attribute personhood. Your response is a red herring, and fails to address the merits. My claim stands. 15 Dec 2020

I'd prefer to get along, please try and be more civil. Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Bacondrum (talk) 08:04, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer so as well, thanks Bacondrum. I hope you will agree that at no point have I attempted to disparage or even discuss anyone's race, sex, gender, religion, national origin, birth defect, nor ancestral legitimacy. I beg you to dismiss the charge of personal attack. I did respond in condescending tone (though honestly, logically, and with reliable sources), to repeated request from you and another editor for citations previously given (in the article), questions which I perceived as tendentious, but which may not have been. I admit there has been some "incivility" going on here, in which I've participated. I will try not to contribute to it in the future.Jaredscribe (talk) 11:15, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI - December 2020

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Template:Systemic bias Information icon Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Antifa (United States). Hey, Jared! Tone down the rhetoric. I understand that it's frustrating to not be able to edit directly yet, but that doesn't give you the right to be hostile toward other editors at that talk page. Please assume good faith. —valereee (talk) 14:49, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

HiValereee Please send me a link to our ANI dispute section. I can't find it on the noticeboard. Did it get archived? Also see my responsa above on this my talk page. After a few days away from this issue, I intend to respond on ANI.
For reference, here is my opening statement allegedly failing to assume good faith:

This text from Antifa (Germany) belongs in the first paragraphs of the article, which obscures (deliberately?) the origins and dominant ideology of the movement

That the article is unnecessarily obscure - is an accusation which I stand behind. It seems to me that the article expresses a POV:Americanism and POV:presentism, that treats history and the rest of the world like they don't matter.
That the article is deliberately obscure - I've never made that accusation. I asked it as a question. Was it deliberate? This is an insinuation, not an accusation. Maybe it wasn't deliberate.
Moreover, if my insinuation that conscious bias may be at work constitutes a failure to assume good faith, even this hardly constitutes a personal attack. I hope you will reconsider and dismiss this exaggerated charge, so that we can deal with the more accurate charge of "incivility", and eventually get back to making an encyclopedia. Jaredscribe (talk) 11:15, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rebecca Walo Omana - Help with French translation - is she a nun?

Hello, I'm reaching out because I saw you listed as a fr-en translator, and I see you're also interested in some religion articles. I'm wondering whether you know exactly what this is saying? It's a profile on a mathematician in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Found on this webpage [1]

Dans son Curriculum Vitae, avant de vous laisser l'exploiter in extenso, il y a lieu de repérer quelques principaux éléments:

Religieuse de la Congrégation diocésaine des Soeurs de Saint François d'Assise de Tshumbe, elle émit ses voeux perpétuels le 02/08/1978.

Is this saying that Omana took a nun's vows? Is she still a nun/could a nun also be a grad student in Canada and later professor? That's how it seems to me. I haven't been able to find a copy of her CV.

Thanks for any help! IllQuill (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I asked too soon: I found her listed as a sister on the Diocese website.[2] It looks like she is a reverend sister. IllQuill (talk) 02:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These are a few principal elements from her CV, before showing it in full: (paraphrase)

- A religious (nun) in the congregation of the Sisters of Saint Francis of Assisi of Tshumbe, she made her perpetual vows in 2/8/1978.

And to your question @IllQuill:, yes and no. From consulting the the University's profile of her, as its new Rector, and CV, it seems she took her vows the year she received her B.Sc. from the University of of Quebec. She was later a Mathematics grad student and PHD in Belgium, and professor in Kinshasa. You probably already figured this out, but good luck and happy editing! Jaredscribe (talk) 05:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! IllQuill (talk) 06:30, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IllQuill, Did you ever make an article? Sorry I didn't help more; I'll have more free time after the holidays, in a few weeks.

le 26 novembre 2010 à Tshumbe, la Révérende Soeur Rebecca Gemma WALO OMANA OTOKOYE a été promue Recteur de l'UNITSHU.

Née le 15 juillet 1951,Soeur Gemma WALO est la première femme du Congo-Kinshasa devenue Docteur en Sciences-Mathématiques près l'Université Catholique de Louvain (U.C.L./ Belgique). Elle est jusqu'ici professeur Ordinaire à l'Université de Kinshasa (UNIKIN), Faculté des Sciences, Département de Mathémathiques et Informatique et Directrice de l’Ecole Doctorale régionale en Mathématiques et Informatiques de l’Université de Kinshasa.

Ok, I just found it at Rebecca Walo Omana. Nice work. There should be one at fr:Rebecca Walo Omana. Maybe I'll get around to that someday. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk)

Yes I did end up making one, I'm sorry I didn't ping you or anything! I've also been very busy recently. Thank you so much for the follow up! If you do end up making the French page that would be cool, but I know there's more things I'd like to do than time to do them :) IllQuill (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


References

WP:USEPRIMARY on SoS Antony Blinken - January 2021

Information icon Hello, I'm AleatoryPonderings. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person onAntony Blinken, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 19:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Transition of Power - Presidency of Donald Trump

(disputed)

Hi Jaredscribe, it looks like you restored an edit of yours that was reverted within 24 hours. This violates the discretionary sanctions on the article. Please self-revert your edit. Cheers. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Being previously unaware of the 1RR discretionary sanctions on this article (it was my first contribution), I self-reverted my restoration of my reverted edit immediately when informed, and took it to talk back in January. I had other things to do and forgot about it and moved on, but a consensus of three editors formed, backing my proposition. Disappointing that this highly relevant historical fact has been missing from the record, right when people were wanting to know about it. So I've restored it as of today. Presidency of Donald Trump#Transition of power and Farewell addressJaredscribe (talk) 05:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jared, it appears you attempted to restore the talk thread about this from Archive 12, but it looks like at least one of the talk threads still would need to be restored on the article talk page. SPECIFICO talk 21:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Any text you add should only be added after the discussions are back at an article talk location. SPECIFICO talk 21:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Brought discussion back to current article talk, restored the section 22 March 2021. Thanks MelanieN for supplying the missing citation. It seems Onetwothreeip is intent on removing the quotes from Trump We pray for his success.. and Biden very generous on the grounds that they "aren't relevant". But they are the MOST RELEVANT aspect of this whole paragraph. Without the quotes giving the main actors causes and reasons, historians will be unable to a connect factoids into a historic narrative. Is that our goal for an WP:ENC? I think not. (Although it is for some factions and media who profit from misunderstandings and the political drama it creates). These facts been NOTED by the media and by us, therefore they are NOTABLE. The quotes are highly relevant to the subject of "transition of power", and should be restored. Likewise, unless the goal is to obscure the facts for some reason, he shouldn't cut the title "Transition of Power" into the undescriptive mere "Transition". I ask him to restore these cuts himself and pre-empt an edit war.Jaredscribe (talk) 15:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To the point of needing to trim the article: yes, in general long articles can be split up. Although this article isn't longer than Presidency of Barack ObamaorPresidency of George Bush (although their tenures were longer), so its debatable whether the article is "too long". A managing editor should read this: Wikipedia:Summary_style. If a managing editor claims that the details "can be included in the child articles", then he should do that work himself, PRIOR to cutting it from the main parent article, and provide a link in talk to the relevant sub-section proving this, IMHO. Otherwise its disruptive, and it erases the work of editors who've worked hard on this for four years to give us at the end the raw material, and who have now moved on to other subject matter. We should respect their work by not taking it lightly and not demanding, that they now return and do the work of defending its "notability" while we cut it up.Jaredscribe (talk) 15:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Moreover, given the above (and ongoing aggressive cutting already called out by SPECIFICO), this editor Onetwothreeip should step down, IMHO, from the position he is trying to assume as "Managing Editor", and cease and desist from the aggressive cuts to the article of content that has previously been curated by editorial consensus. WP:Competence is required for that role more than for that of ordinary editors, and he has not demonstrated this, and has demonstrated too much hubris. Moreover, there HAS been earlier consensus (3-1) about "Transition of Power" section, and he is misrepresenting an earlier discussion in Jan by claiming in talk that The content doesn't have consensus but I can agree to a more narrow version there has been none. Other constructive editors have been driven away, as I was in Jan.Jaredscribe (talk) 15:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No editor should presume to say about any current events "This has no historical significance" or "this isn't relevant" or "I can 'categorically' say that no one outside America cares about this." as Onetwothreeip has done. This is hubris. A real historian would have more humility. The fact is, we don't know that, and we aren't even qualified to evaluate, and WP:NOR. This is an encyclopedia, not a historical analysis. What right do you have to decide what is significant or relevant to me? What right do I have to decide what is or isn't significant to you? In general WP:PRESERVE, so that historians can research the sources and do the work later. We don't have the perspective to make these judgement calls. And the fact is, it has been "NOTED" by the news media, and by myself and other editors as well. Therefore, "Transition of Power" is NOTABLE, as is almost anything else in the article that meets the WP:Verifiability standard, which is the content policy that we should be applying here instead.Jaredscribe (talk) 15:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is absolutely not supposed to be a source for historians. It is often inappropriate for Wikipedia editors to select which quotes should be used in an article. It is completely inappropriate to deliberately construct a historical narrative, as anything of that nature should only come about as a result of neutrally and objectively summarising the article subjects. These quotes in particular are not any more relevant than anything else Donald Trump has said, and we obviously can't include everything he has ever said here. Not to get too much into this, but I am also very keen on avoiding the flowery and grandiose language often used by enthusiasts of American politics, such as with phrases like "transition of power".
As for the lengths of similar articles, Presidency of Donald Trump is much larger than that of its predecessors, at 430,000 bytes. Presidency of Barack Obama is 290,000 bytes and Presidency of George W. Bush is 140,000 bytes, both despite being two terms. I completely reject being or wanting to be a "managing editor" or historian, so you can consider me to have "stepped down" from both of those. I am very much willing to defend those claims you are quoting me as making, though it would be more accurate to say that something has not enough historical significant for the article than to say it isn't historically significant. I am not claiming to know what is relevant for yourself or myself, it is an assessment of objective reality. Overall I think your content is good for Wikipedia, but I would avoid adding such content to articles which are already extremely large. Onetwothreeip (talk) 06:58, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Policy and guideline changes, especially regarding C-SPAN and fair use

I'd suggest discussing these changes on the applicable Talk pages before making significant edits to policy and guideline pages. Testimony given under oath is not automatically a reliable source, especially for claims about living persons (WP:BLPPRIMARY). As for C-SPAN videos, they would still fall under non-free content because Wikipedia's license allows for commercial use. Our policy is intentionally more restrictive than U.S. fair use because of this. I hope this helps. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 21:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. tedder (talk) 03:00, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some examples where you have attacked and/or not shown good faith. You seem to be aware of this, it's important enough that it's one of Wikipedia's 5 pillars. It's non-negotiable.
- "The unwillingness by Another Believer to acknowledge the bias or even the meaning of the statue, is a manifestation of this same bias"
- "[ If an editor is unable to do this, (s)he should refrain from discussing the matter. WP:Competence is required]"
- "Consider staying out of this one, unless you have something constructive to add."
- "we have some problems from this user Another Believer"
- "The disruptive editor in question here, Another Believer..."
I'm not coming here to argue content or personal opinion. Your invitation to edit Wikipedia is contingent on these Five Pillars. tedder (talk) 03:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The only content disputes I've had with this editor is on the two articles in question, I haven't followed him around or harassed him on other pages. I assert in talk pages that there is a bias, and that these article violate neutrality. This is not a personal attack nor is it harrassment. The editor's claims in both articles that my additions were "not constructive" and the text from the "monumental inscription" is "unsourced", are inaccurate - the inscription is published (inscribed) on the monument itself. And this is relevant to the article - that is, constructive. I wasn't the first volunteer to add this and get reverted, either. I was a brand new user, and this was very discouraging, so I gave up and left wikipedia for a several months. Is that harrassment also? Are you willing to affirm the principle of WP:Don't bite the newcomers?Jaredscribe (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Therefore I returned after a few months to finish the work, and I reminded him that WP:Competence is required An editor can be in good faith (I continue to assume it) and still have bias of which he is unaware and can still lack competence in some areas. An editor can be in good faith and still be disruptive. Pointing this out is not harrassment, and nor is it a personal attack, nor is it passive-aggressive - I'm speaking directly to point of the content and to the editor's apparent misunderstanding of WP:Reliable sources.Jaredscribe (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The consensus of other editors on Spanish–American_War_Soldier's_Monument held with my position and I was able to continue constructing the article and restored a more or less WP:NPOV.Jaredscribe (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On the The Promised Land (sculpture), the dispute is ongoing so I added the template for Neutrality challenge. There is an established process for dealing with this, the entire content dispute is handled on the talk pages. The only thing happening here is that I am defending my actions by demonstrating that I am in good faith in taking them - since this is apparently doubted. Also, I sincerely believe (perhaps incorrectly) that they are the right actions to take in this case, although I'm still rather new and still have alot to learn.Jaredscribe (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, assertions of harrassment and personal attack are a misunderstanding or red herring, and are not helping. If I have inadvertently harrassed this editor by suggesting that he lacks competence and is being unintentionally disruptive, then certainly I was not doing it for the purpose of harrassment, but rather for the purpose of improving the article. I continue to assume that he is in good faith. These accusations are coming from a sysop, who may be able to win the argument by an appeal to force, unless my reply here appeases him. I'm begging him to reflect on this and reconsider. However, I will avoid these articles for a while because improving them is not worth the risk of being blocked, to me. I beg all wikipedians who believe (as I do) in the encyclopedic mission and in the WP:SOP to remember that Wikipedia is WP:Not a bureaucracy. I hope that some arbitrators and admins will adopt the principle that User:Jaredscribe/There is justice, or at least strive for it, although I know it is denied in some quarters. This may be my last post for a while. If I am blocked, I still love you wikipedia!Jaredscribe (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Alexbrn (talk) 07:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sanaa music scene: Qanbus and Yemenite chant: French translation assistance

Hi Jaredscribe,

I'm currently working on the Sanaa article and would like to add a section on the city's music. I found the following three French-language sources that may have useful information: [1] [2] [3]

It may be a bit much to ask, but is there any way you would be willing to help me understand what they're talking about? Alternatively, if you wanted to directly add any useful content from them to the article here, then that would be a huge help.

Thanks,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 04:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks 3 kids in a trenchcoat this is interesting to me, and I'm honored. (btw, what does yr uname mean?)
Both articles mention the Qanbus, a fretless Yemenite oud, and a musician named Yahya al-Nunu, active '80-'95, who apparently held musical seances from afternoon to the following morning. The Mokrani article also mentions Hasan al-Ajami. In a month or so I'll have more time to research this and listen to their recordings. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 04:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Also it looks like I gave the wrong link to one of the articles before, try this one instead. (Also my username is a reference to the trope of a group of kids masquerading as an "adult" by standing on each others' shoulders, typically hiding themselves in a trenchcoat: See here) 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 07:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry its taken me so long to get to this, 3 kids in a trenchcoat. I made a section for Music of Sanaa here: :fr:Sanaa § Musique, and cited all three articles. Now other french wikipedists can read them in depth and write more. I'll wait a month and see what they come up with before translating. Sanaa Chant was put on the UNESCO fr:Liste_représentative_du_patrimoine_culturel_immatériel_de_l'humanité in 2003, and it had a redlink on the wikipedia page, which I pointed to the new section. According to the Mokrani article, this was done due to the advocacy of the ethnomusicologist Jean Lambert of School_for_Advanced_Studies_in_the_Social_Sciences, who wrote the other two articles you gave me.Jaredscribe (talk) 18:18, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jaredscribe No worries, thanks for your help! 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 23:57, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New moon of spring Aviv-Nisan, March 14 2021 Mainpage "On this day" or "News"

Hi — please note that the edit instructions on date articles (such as the March 13 and 14 ones you recently edited) clearly state that "Each addition now requires a direct citation from a reliable source on this page supporting it. Simply providing a wikilink is not sufficient and additions without direct sources will be removed." Your additions did not cite sources.

Furthermore, per WP:DOY, the 'Holidays and observances' entries "should also be limited to those events that occur on the same date annually and to observances that are currently celebrated". This clearly does not apply to new moons or similar phenomena.

Hope this helps, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that you're continuing down this road. That's your call, of course; I won't waste my time any further, since you're clearly convinced your way is the right way. Bye, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:40, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Our content dispute was in the edit summaries of March 14, which happens to be in 2021, the new moonofAviv, spring. Among other things. [[4]]
Thank you DoubleGrazing for not wasting any more of our time. And although it is "my way", it is also the way of world and the course of nature, which I hope that someday you will acknowledge, having reverted this twice. The new moon of spring, occurs every year on the same day, the 1st of Nisan. I notice that March 1st tends to move around a bit. I understand that you Gregorians of the graeco-roman tradition see it differently. But your way is not the only way to count time or to memorialize the past. And our tradition is adequately explained, sourced, and cited on the linked articles. It even made its way into some notable controversies about the dating of Easter, and to schisms and orthodoxies that make your culture what it is today. Undoubtedly, this will be discussed in the coming month.Jaredscribe (talk) 13:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not trying erase mention of Palm Sunday, Good friday, Christmas or New Years, nor of any of the other half dozen saints days and religious propaganda that is spread on the Main Page. I simply ask to include the Lunar new year#middle east on the main page on the day when it occurs, along with all the other trivialities and sectarian interests. I would appreciate it DoubleGrazing, if you would please inform your fellow WP:WikiKnights, to stop removing mention of obvious facts of nature and of Jewish and Asian historical perspectives generally. And please stop the edit war by restoring the mention of the Lunar new year#middle east 2021, that your colleague Firestar464 has reverted. You can remove it again after March 15th, or even better, archive it with "News" for the record. The "news" editors deleted mention, claiming that the new moon was not "news" to them, having not occurred to their religious hierarchs or their mass industry to print articles about it. Jaredscribe (talk) 13:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This will reoccur. Next year it may seem to be on a "different day" to you, but it will be on the "same day as today", to me and to us. It is disappointing for me to discover that ignorance and systemic bias are not merely an accident of culture, but seem to be a matter of policy here on wikipedia. But you have the technology and the data, you can do the math. We can figure this out together and fix it. I hope that the WP:Encyclopedia mission will prevail. Jaredscribe (talk) 13:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is not the place to WP:RGW. Now please follow the policies. Thanks. Firestar464 (talk) 01:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Group Member notice

Your name is listed as a participant of the WikiProject Countering system bias in religion.
I would like to know if you agree with this edit: DIFF.
24.78.228.96 (talk) 11:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 2021 Misogyny & Male Chauvinism (IMHO)

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Steak and Blowjob Day, you may be blocked from editing. DMacks (talk) 13:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon with clock

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours to prevent further vandalism. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  DMacks (talk) 14:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended content

RESPONSE. This SysOp has gone to great lengths in blocking my in order to preserve the high quality of Steak and Blow Job Day. But off the "reliable sources" previously given in the article's lede one described it as the the "sad, stupid history of Steak & Bj day." The other asked "What's this for?" A question we ought to ask ourselves.

Unlike the previous version, My edit faithfully represents the cited source. Previously, it had obscured the criticism, and cited the source only in order to establish notability of the internet meme - a move which is intellectually dishonest, in my opinion.) Why is the detective work of my contribution reverted? Does every internet meme merit an article? Please restore my contribution, or else someone please block DMacks from future interference with me. Although being a SysOp, his expertise probably makes him immune to prosecution. He is not, however, immune to criticism or mockery, but this clown needs a bodyguard. You can call me Al. By the way, WP:Notability. And Whats This For again?Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In the "Reception" section, I left an intelligent, sensitive, common sense essay describing how many men are receiving this so-called "holiday". The essay didn't delete or remove any other content. I didn't revert or disrupt anyone else's work. You have every right to revert our opinion on how we "receive" this. I didn't even attempt to restore your reversion. I didn't waste my time edit warring over this, I didn't try to restore the reversion, but instead extracted it into an essay. Neither on that article nor on Cake and Cunnilingus Day did I disrupt the very important encyclopedic work that is going on there. Just delete my content if you find it unencyclopedic. I didn't war over it. I let it go. You should too. But instead he needlessly blocked me for 31 hours, and will only succeed in humiliating himself - which I had no desire to do to him except that he forced it on me. Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, now that we've all seen just how seriously Wikipedia will defend its coverage of the trivialities of pop culture. (Why else even visit those articles?) Reductio ad absurdum He should repent and restore, and unblock me so that we can work toward consensus per WP:BRD, or else be blocked himself and his SysOp status reconsidered.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This done, we return to the discussion of the New moon. Meanwhile, I've been hard at work doing real scholarship on serious and relevant subjects of the Babylonian calendar, the first month of Aviv, spring which is called Nisan there and in the Hebrew calendar, and on the Metonic cycle, culminating in a proposal to mention the Lunar new year of the middle east, today, the 1 Nisan, March 14th 2021. This is after all, the basis for our dating of Easter, according to the Computus. Relevant? Obviously. Timely? Today is the day. Notable enough to make the main page "On this day" holidays and observances? Not to managing editors, since the solar "day changes" year to year.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For all my hard work, 5 of them chose to fight me persistently to preserve the status quo of general ignorance and denial of reality. They're not qualified to manage a calendar. Read edit summaries to get the idea. by flippantly preventing mention of the Lunar new year#middle east, inclusion in the calendar of "Holidays and Observances" on the main page for March 14 2021, while refusing to join me in constructive research. If not here, where do we mention this, TODAY? Tommorrow will be too late. Are we going to remove all reference to Easter from the calendar now, because it "occurs on a different day" each year?Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are we going to also ignore Thanksgiving, because its solar day changes to put it always on a Thursday? But they will mention some ephemeral innovations like Pi day and Mothering Sunday (whose day also changes; it always on the 4th Sunday of Lent). The hypocrisy and stupidity of the Antijudaism that is manifested on Wikipedia today is something of which we all should all be ashamed who read, edit, and love Wikipedia.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For all my effort, I have been impulsively "blocked from wikipedia" for 31 hours by DMacks, who valiantly defended the honor of Steak and Blowjob Day. Please read the historical version to observe his excellent work at helping prove my point. This is who you are, Wikipedia.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quod Erat Demonstrandum est.

The WP:Systemic bias on wikipedia is not merely an accident of culture, nor a problem with a subset of editors. Its encoded into the policy and enforced by admins. Another example of this is the brazen and false claim of the essay WP:TINJ, which I'm currently experiencing, frequently quoted in dispute boards, which is an abdication of duty and a celebration of administrator cabals. It flys in the face of the GNU GPL and other and Free Culture licenses under which this content is freely distributed. Its why so many other qualified contributors like myself give up and go find a different scholarly community.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Jaredscribe (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

And this, my teachers, colleagues, and students, demonstrates the original assertion. The WP:WikiKnight will go to great lengths to defend the WP:Systemic bias on wikipedia against "disruption". The WP:WikiElf - metapedians, admins, socialites - usually assists, enables, or stands idly by. I suspect them trolling as IPs under the cover of fighting vandalism. The WP:WikiDwarf who does the hard work of mining valuable sources for reliable information, is driven underground. The WP:WikiDragon takes the treasure and goes elsewhere, which is about to happen now unless something changes. I've sadly come to expect the puerile vanity, misogyny, unconscious jew-hate, and the "youthful cab driver perspective" dominating content disputes, the general laziness by the senior editors, and the pervasive graeco-roman perspective in both its christian and post-christian progressive manifestations, and the frequent acts of willful ignorance like this one. But the lengths that they will go to defend and preserve the ignorance is unworthy of the mission of the WP:Encyclopedia. Perhaps it was an impulsive oversight, and not an abuse of power. Perhaps. On the other hand, there are many conscientous editors working here as well, from whom I've learned much. For their sake and for that of the general public, I will continue the resistance. (Although I should be doing scholarship) The WP:Bureaucracy must improve its methods and its manners, and most of all, correct its basic mission: THERE IS JUSTICE. The priveleges are given for that very purpose, and they must be held accountable, just as I have been held to account. Anything less is dishonest, unjust, and downright unencyclopedic. I demand that they WP:Encyclopedia, Lunar new year#middle east, WP:CSB. So that I may advocate for mention of the 1 Nisan, the Lunar new year, on this years "calendar", or on "todays news".Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, I request that all conscientious staff and admins help me in the encyclopedic mission of educating the public and WP:Countering Systemic Bias, and as DMacks has done to me, please block the four editors who are disrupting my constructive additions to the main page "On this day" and "In the news", Wham2001, Firestar464, Ehlef, and the first DoubleGrazing who initiated and then abandoned the edit-war, without conceding.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This will reoccur next year on the same day, 1 Nisan, which is not always on March 14th. Passover and Easter will also re-occur. The sun rises, and the sun also sets, and returns to the place from whence it came. I am bringing you the moon, but I'm also bringing you the sun - because both are ruled by the same eternal law, of which in this encyclopedia, today, I alone bear witness. When you drive me out, you are left in the darkness of ignorance, to wallow in the vanities which I've been blocked for "disrupting". Without the sun, all is vanity. Good night.Jaredscribe (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

From what I see you are close to being WP:NOTHERE. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, Jaredscribe, I ask you not to tag me; I've no interest in the matters discussed on this talk page. Thank you. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:NOTTHEM. Thanks. Firestar464 (talk) 01:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Since you pinged me, here are my two cents. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written as a consensus-based collaboration by editors from a wide variety of backgrounds, who build articles by summarizing what has been written in reliable sources. It is not evident, as 331dot points out above, that your editing currently fits into that paradigm. If you're interested in working on the encyclopedia I suggest finding some sources of unimpeachable quality and using them to quietly improve an article; if you're only interested in promoting a lunar calendar or religion please do that elsewhere. Best wishes, Wham2001 (talk) 07:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In general, WP:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate_a_point. Wikipedia is not a WP:SOAPBOX. I have made a Talk:Steak and Blowjob Day § Sincere apology for disruptive soapboxing, there, and on Talk:Cake and Cunnilingus Day § Sincere apology for disruptive soapboxing. And in advocating for inclusion of a Lunisolar calendar and the holidays of Asian Civilizations, I pledge to not exclude the white european and american perspective. If I have offended anyone, I'm terribly sorry.Jaredscribe (talk) 23:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you DMacks for blocking me for only 31 hours. In retrospect, I think that was fair. I should have taken my WP:SOAPBOX diatribe over to the deletion or notability noticeboards instead of on the article itself. Thank you for apparently recognizing that I was new and in a frustrated mood, and for making a proportional response rather than coming down like a ton of bricks. As you can see, I made a public apology on the talk page, which is a more appropriate place to debate the political and social aspects of a "lame joke gone viral", such as S&BJ day. Also, I'm committed to becoming a productive editor and learning and respecting the content policies. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 02:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Citing "oral tradition" on Rabbi

I learned this from R.Eliayahu Weisman, an independent scholar at the Portland Kollel, a Jewish study hall that is open to the community. My personal experience leads me to consider him a more WP:RS than most of the Secondary and Tertiary sources cited in the article, and he makes better use of WP:PRIMARY. However, oral tradition is not "published" in the ordinary sense. This is an interesting case study in how an living oral tradition can sometimes be superior to the non-practiced, written tradition Christian and secular scholars writing about Judaism while reflecting their own Anti-Jewish prejudices. In the Etymology (2nd paragraph), he cites the RaDaK, who was a scholar from the medieval period, interpretation of Genesis 1: "peru u REBu", "Be fruitful and MULTIPLY" Perhaps someone can improve his contribution, by searching for this teaching (which is probably published) and citing it here.

Nonsense. Shaye J. D. Cohen is just an Yeshiva boy + higher academic learning. There are more like him. tgeorgescu (talk) 11:35, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

March 2021

Information icon Hello, I'm Girth Summit. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Sunday, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. GirthSummit (blether) 06:43, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know Girth Summit, that was most gentle reversion I've ever suffered. I wish more revert warriors would follow your example when dealing with newcomers, and leave a talk page note like this. As for the references, they exist on the linked pages; when I return to work on the article, I'll add them to the article body with citations, per MOS:LEAD as you suggested.

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Sources at Exodus

Thank you for your edits, but you need to provide reliable sources. See WP:RS. Unsourced material is likely to be removed. Additionally, you’re adding things to sources that do not say what you’re adding.—Ermenrich (talk) 12:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not point out problems in the article itself. That's what the talk page is for.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:38, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Vchimpanzee for showing concern over my major changes to the lede: in general I shouldn't have done that late on friday when all or most of the knowledgeable and personally concerned editors would be offline for the the holidays. I'll try reformulating my proposal and adding it again or on talk, now that the week has begun. That said, I'm not sure what exactly I did to "point out problems in the article itself". If you would please inform me I'll try not to do it again. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 03:14, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here is what I changed. The words in red that I removed would go on the talk page of the article.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Vchimpanzee for correcting that and reminding me. Not sure what I was thinking; I must have accidentally saved it as a draft along with another section I was simultaneously editing. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 21:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easter

FYI, if that orange tag for expansion isn't resolved by next year, Easter will not be included on the Main Page. Also, just because the titles have "Easter" or "Paques" in them doesn't guarantee that they actually exist, which is why you still need some sort of reference, just to prove someone didn't make up those titles. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 07:06, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Primary sources and synthesis at God in Judaism?

Hi Jaredscribe! I don't have time to look at the article in more detail or edit it right now, so I figured I would leave you a quick note - I want to make sure you're aware of Wikipedia policy on primary sources and that you're being careful to avoid original research in your edits to God in Judaism. Direct citations to the Torah, for example, aren't generally a good idea; likewise, citing Maimonides to demonstrate "a clear consensus in orthodox Judaism" doesn't adhere to either of the policies I linked. I would be happy to discuss this further if it would be helpful, and I might join you in working on that article at some point when I've got more time and focus to devote to it! ezlevtlk
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23:59, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will stipulate that when WP:USEPRIMARY there shouldn't be analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis. Thats why I quoted directly, without interpretation. In the meantime though I've added the interpretations to those verses given by sages generally considered reliable secondary sources within the field.Jaredscribe (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The claim that the "law and the prophets" are true and righteous, is a necessary assumption for the purpose of "Jewish theological discussion", which is what the hatnote states that this article is about. This is permitted on wikipedia per WP:MNA. If editors insist on rejecting this assumption, or on making me "prove it" by reference to modern academia, then we could give up and change the title of the article to "God according to Academic Consensus" and write about that instead.Jaredscribe (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To this claim, I cited the Jewish principles of faith § Maimonides' 13 principles of faith These 13 principles are printed in most Jewish prayerbooks. Within the context of Judaism, this is considered a reliable tertiary source. I understand that Torah Judaism is not a mainstream POV, but I'm not pushing that POV in those content areas. The Jewish POV is already excluded from most articles in the content area of Hebrew Bible and Judaism, which are dominated by christian and secular scholars who've always considered Judaism a discredited fringe theory. This strikes me as Non-WP:NPOV and basically ignorant (although, regrettably, it has been "mainstream" for much of European history); a legacy of of graeco-roman and christian theological jew-hate that wants to appropriate Jewish texts while denigrating the transmitters of those texts. I think the Jewish POV should be recorded as a significant minority POV, within the content area of Judaism and the Hebrew Bible. I also don't think it helps the encyclopedic study of comparative religion to defer to an anti-jewish "academic consensus" whose unanimity is overstated (and is itself a synthetic claim), while disallowing the Jewish POV on the article "God according to Judaism".Jaredscribe (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Jewish POV is that there is one God. The God of Adam and Eve, is the God of Noah and his sons, is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, is the God of Moses, and the prophets. Since this was implicitly denied in the article God in Judaism, it has to be affirmed as a necessary assumption for the "Jewish theological discussion" that the article purports to be about. Editors are free to deny the existence or the oneness of God or to challenge the historicity of Genesis, but they are not free to do so in the name of orthodox Judaism. I feel like I have to prove that the WP:SKYISBLUE, and am then charged with making a "synthetic claim" for doing so. It is a "synthetic claim" of Judaism that God is one, not of my own opinion or research, I shouldn't have to prove that this is what Judaism holds, but since its being denied I'll have to. If you have a better way of stating this, or can make better use of the sources than I did, please do. I hope we can work together to make the article better. :) Also, we should be having this conversation on Talk:God_in_JudaismJaredscribe (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for assistance-Messiah in Judaism

Dear Jaredscribe,

Can you please take a look at talk page of Messiah in Judaism and offer your honest opinion in section Effects of Messiah. Thanks so much!

Blessings,

Yaakov W. Yaakov Wa. (talk) 22:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yaakov Wa. I'll study this article and respond soon. In the meantime, if you are knowledgeable in sources for Torah Judaism, the article God in Judaism could use some help. Also Mosaic authorship, and the Book of Exodus. WP:USEPRIMARY but no analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis. I think Mishneh Torah and Shulchan Aruch would be considered "tertiary sources" per wikipedia content policy. Primary sources such as the Torah and the Nevi'im should be interpreted by reference to reliable secondary sources.Jaredscribe (talk) 05:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My knowledge of the subject comes through thorough study of the primary sources. I don't know the secondary sources for this subject, other than Maimonides, and I don't trust any of them. Therefore I've declined to edit the article, per Wikipedia content policy WP:NOR. I've responded to Yaakov Wa. at length in Talk:Messiah in Judaism § Gentile nations in the Messianic era If my "original research" into the hermeneutics is correct, it will be confirmed elsewhere by other bible scholars.Jaredscribe (talk) 07:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Also, not a policy or guideline, but something important to understand the above policies and guidelines: Wikipedia operates off of objective information, which is information that multiple persons can examine and agree upon. It does not include subjective information, which only an individual can know from an "inner" or personal experience. Most religious beliefs fall under subjective information. Wikipedia may document objective statements about notable subjective claims (i.e. "Christians believe Jesus is divine"), but it does not pretend that subjective statements are objective, and will expose false statements masquerading as subjective beliefs (cf. Indigo children).

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I added a citation by Umberto Cassuto, not my own OR. Cassuto's The Documentary Hypothesis and the Composition of the Pentateuch (Hebrew, Torat HaTeudot, 1941; English translation, 1961) was one of the first mainstream works to offer a detailed critique of Wellhausen. Cassuto argued first of all that the supposed terminological, grammatical and stylistic traits indicative of separate documents actually were common in Hebrew language and literature and were shared with other biblical and post-biblical Jewish literature whose essential unity was not seriously questioned, including liturgical, midrashic, medieval and even modern Jewish religious writing.Jaredscribe (talk) 03:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't put all my money on the Documentary Hypothesis. Tgeorgescu (talk) 04:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The documentary hypothesis as set out by Wellhausen doesn't have many followers these days. On the other hand, the idea that Moses wrote the Torah has none.Achar Sva (talk) 09:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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An article you recently created, Sabbath of vision, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 21:07, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks John B123. Yes, I know its not ready yet. I'm sure there are plenty of independent sources to speak to this, and I'll have time to work on it in a few months. I meant to leave it as a stub so that other editors could begin. Is there a difference between a stub and a draft? Will redlinks from other pages still point to the draft? Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 21:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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CHOPSY

You seem to take offense at WP:CHOPSY. Learn that the person who imposed CHOPSY-supremacism unto Wikipedia is Jimmy Wales and he did that years before I began editing. I have only rendered explicit what was already the unwritten norm. I am not that powerful to sway most admins to whatever I pontificate.

Also, the Documentary hypothesis was left behind because scholars have improved upon its principles and methods, beating it at its own game. But for the fundamentalist Jews and the fundamentalist Christians the situation in the mainstream academia did not improve, if anything, the mainstream academia got more radical or theologically liberal than Wellhausen ever was. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know the history of these policies. I agree there is a need for quality standards, and I don't intend to WP:GEVAL for junk science and flat earthers. I'm not convinced that WP:CHOPSY is the right test, though. I'll take up that issue with you on the essay itself, which I'm not afraid to edit. I value logic and evidence more than I do "mainstream opinion," although I submit to that when it's verifiably true. I've found "scholarship" to be more reliable than "academia" (although most people don't know the difference) and like everyone else, I must rely on the testimony of witnesses and authorities to some degree, especially for history. Before we debate each other, which I think is inevitable, lets try to find points on which we can stipulate. I commit to acknowledging the truth, even when its spoken by my adversaries, or in a way that disadvantages me. I hope you will do so as well.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I will take up the other issue with you on Talk:Mosaic authorship, where it started. The limited issue in our content dispute there is "multiple authorship vs. single authorship", and in the exclusion of notable scholars holding the latter. So please don't project religious caricatures on me, its a distraction from the real question that we have to deal with. Kind regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 00:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not based upon logic and evidence, which are banned according to WP:OR, but it is based upon WP:VERECUNDIAM.
And, yes, theologically orthodox Christians who WP:SOAP for their own theology are troublemakers. So are theologically orthodox Jews, theologically orthodox Muslims, and theologically orthodox Hindus who WP:SOAP for their own theology. Wikipedia isn't made for WP:SOAPing. Here we only promote mainstream scholarship and mainstream science. Those who have a problem with that are unfit to be Wikipedia editors. Tgeorgescu (talk) 00:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And you also promote video games, porn, and fan fiction, the the various trivialities of pop culture. Is that less "absurd" to you? WP:SOAPing for vanity is acceptable and encouraged on wikipedia. Most of these articles are not supported by scholarship. In fact, academic journals are considered generally unreliable when it comes to Brittney Spears, Jeep Wrangler, and French cheeses.Jaredscribe (talk) 01:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked this editor to please stop projecting religious caricatures on me and to deal with the limited question of "single authorship vs multiple authors". The continued use of ad hominem insinuations, while avoiding the actual issue of textual criticism is both poor argumentation and scholarship, and it is also a violation of WP:CIVILITY, imho. Jaredscribe (talk) 01:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Listen, I believe in Spinoza's God, which is the faith of a tiny minority. But since I do not WP:SOAP for it, the point that it is a non-mainstream belief is moot. People who WP:SOAP for a religion or a political ideology are unfit to be Wikipedians. Instead, presenting what the mainstream academia thinks about that religion or ideology is allowed.
The gist is: evangelism (seeking to convert people) and ideological propaganda are not allowed.
You're fighting for privileges, I'm fighting against privileges. There is no neat way of privileging Chabad without at the same time privileging Salafi.
Also, your pretense to speak for all Jews is completely bogus: it is patently false that all Jews knee-jerk reject modern Bible scholarship (of the WP:CHOPSY sort). Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:18, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I added a citation by Umberto Cassuto, a mainstream bible scholar who was a departmental chair at the Hebrew University. Here is the contribution that tgeorgescu has rejected, and has now badly mischaracterized.

Cassuto's The Documentary Hypothesis and the Composition of the Pentateuch (Hebrew, Torat HaTeudot, 1941; English translation, 1961) was one of the first mainstream works to offer a detailed critique of Wellhausen. Cassuto argued first of all that the supposed terminological, grammatical and stylistic traits indicative of separate documents actually were common in Hebrew language and literature and were shared with other biblical and post-biblical Jewish literature whose essential unity was not seriously questioned, including liturgical, midrashic, medieval and even modern Jewish religious writing.

I'm seeking to restore a WP:Neutral POV to the article Mosaic Authorship, by including at least one Jewish scholar's opinion. I am not SOAPing, I'm not "fighting for priveleges", I didn't cite chabad or Salafi. This editor is making straw man in order to change the subject and avoid the issue - which is "single authorship vs. multiple authorship", as I've repeatedly stated. It has nothing to do with my belief, his, or anyone else's except the scholars who are cited. It is not "evangelism", nor is it "ideological propaganda". And Umberto Cassuto was a Jewish scholar who clearly does not reject modern Bible scholarship. He advances his arguments on the basis of comparative literatures and textual criticism.
I've been accused here of claiming to speak for "all Jews", but no diffs have been given. I think this editor is now WP:AOBF. If he wants to continue this prosecution, he should provide a diff rather than mischaracterizing my contribution to support his baseless accusations. Now, certain objective observations can be made (and verified) about the truth claims of "orthodox Judaism" - such as that they hold Moses to be a prophet. It may or may not be true, but they really do claim this. Refusing admit this POV of a notable minority, among the many others is basically non-neutral, on an article dealing with Moses. However, I have never claimed to speak for "all Jews". The editor, on the other hand, does claim to speak for "all modern scholars" and for the "academic bias." And he seeks to exclude Umberto Cassuto and others who argue for a single author, from that community. Now he accuses me (falsely) of the totalitarian presumption that he is himself actually practicing. And his claim is bogus: he does not speak for all scholars. As I said before, this editor should stop projecting religious caricatures on me, its a distraction from the real question that we have to deal with.Jaredscribe (talk) 20:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't me who wrote This article should be deprecated and merged with the articles on baal, ashtoreth, biblical minimalism, the documentary hypothesis, and anti-jewish propaganda. It doesn't even bother to quote a Jewish source post Moses as a minority opinion on the Jewish God. It is not encyclopedic - it is IGNORANCE. Jews will recognize this immediately and avoid the article, but the typical gentile reader will be confused, and our readers deserve better. tgeorgescu (talk) 22:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Karaite Judaism and Saducees

Is this anything you know about (or know someone who does)? In the article Month, it is stated that Karaite Judaism rely on first crescent sighting. In their own article, it is written that they trace their origins to the Saducees, who had this practice – but it doesn't say that the modern Karaites still follow this practice. So I'm reluctant to add anything to New moon without a better source. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I know nothing about Karaite practice, except hearsay and intuition. From what I understand of it, there is no such thing as "following this practice" in the Karaite school: rather, each person is obliged to reason for themselves from self-evident first principles and from written Torah. However I've heard hearsay from rabbis that the nature of communal life led them to make decisions and set precedents, and from this they reinvented the rabbinic wheel, so to speak, forming their own traditions and version of oral law, contrary to their stated goals of not having one. In other words, an 'authoritative' tradition shouldn't exist, but because of human political necessity it does. And so by virtue of the fact that it exists (when it shouldn't) its not authoritative. But since this is my own "original research" (based both on common sense and on anti-Karaite rabbinic propaganda), you shouldn't trust it unless you can verify it somehow. The point is, John Maynard Friedman your reluctance is reasonable, and its doubtful that a better source even exists. When in doubt, stand still. Jaredscribe (talk) 21:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, thanks for adding the Dershowitz, Rheingold citation to New moon. Thats exactly the book I've been looking for, and it already has a wikipedia page Calendrical Calculations, whose title-link I added to the citation after putting the google books external link on its article. The algorithm code is Common Lisp in the public domain, and Rheingold distributes it on his website. It would be nice to include Asian and other non-solarian holidays and records of history in the "on this day" section of the mainpage, per WP:GLOBAL. Do you know if anyone has attempted to implement this algorithm on wikipedia's calendar?Jaredscribe (talk) 21:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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A lot of your edits are much appreciated! However, there is a major issue at RSN with several users believing that it is perfectly fine to say "According to Haaretz Haredi Judaism is a radical and dangerous new cult". This is dangerous and if not stopped now, all of Judaism will be under attack! For example they can say "according to (fill in the blank) Judaism is the opposite of good". The discussion is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Another_unreliable_Haaretz_article

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request for translation help

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I would be grateful if you could help in translation of Ancient Baptismal Movements [fr] into English. Many thanks. Mcvti (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please disregard the request. Mcvti (talk) 17:49, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I wasn't aware the policy also applied to content in draftspace, but I'll be sure to avoid this in my future research projects, now that you informed me of it. Thanks Diannaa. (I was working on compiling facts from various sources, and was using a subsection as a "pastebin", with a statements of fact copied from the biograph on his author page, that I was intending to rework into prose later) I recreated the page without the "research pastebin". It needs more research before publishing, so its still in draftspace. Regards Jaredscribe (talk) 03:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Anti-Judaism edits

Not even the David Nirenberg source, which you rely heavily upon, states that anti-Judaism is Jew-hate. A Googlescholar search of the text for the word "hate" can not even find one instance of the term "Jew-hate" as you use it. It finds the term in "Jewish hatred of Christianity" or several instances of "science of hating Judaism" but nothing like the terms you installed into the article. This gives me doubt as to whether you accurately read Nirenberg's material; especially when you conflate "anti-Judaism" with "Jew-hate" and made it the new definition in the lede. Even if Nirenberg equates anti-Judaism with hate for Jews (which I can not find Googlescholar searching his text); there are disagreeing sources and his publication does not get to become the definitive opening of the lede paragraph. It violates WP:NPOV. Nirenberg's "science of hating Judaism" should be explained further, as it's mentioned a few times, and it is an odd usage for the word 'science'. You broke a hotly contested consensus on the lede and violated WP:lede about summarizing important points of the article (in particular the discrimination between anti-Judaism and antisemitism). Alatari (talk) 10:13, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Alatari for searching/reading the book, and yes I agree with your assessment. Will respond later on the article talk page after I think about this some more. According to Nirenberg, Anti-Judaism is a "way of looking at the world" independently of the presence of actual Jews, as you describe, and it is a superset of actual Jew-hate and often takes non-Jews as its targets. For example "all casinos are bad because casinos are jewish", as some anonymous IP has recently postulated on the article talk page, giving you a nice example of the phenomenon. What do you think of that? Not so much jew-hate or antisemitism as it is anti-judaism, a projective system of categorizing the bad things about the world in Jewish terms. I included "Jew-hate" in the lede not because of Nirenberg's analysis, but because its a translation of "Judenhass", which when linked elsewhere on the wikipedia, sometimes points to this article and I don't want to make yet another article on such a fine distinction. Maybe it could be a subsection that relates these concepts without conflating them, which I stipulate should be avoided. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where I will disagree is in current definition: it is also inadequate IMHO, dates from a 70's analysis that ignores early christianity, begins in the middle ages, and seems to refer to merely to criticism of Judaism. Its possible to regard Judaism as an inferior worldview, without also employing the bizarre anti-Jewish reasoning that, for example, "all casinos are Jewish, and therefore bad and must be avoided," or that, as Marx proposed, "capitalism is Jewish". Also, Nirenberg (borrowing from Saul Ascher) may mean either pseudo-science or scientism when he refers to a "science of hating Judaism" promoted with the language of critical reason, and yes should be explained further, and will do soon. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion here: Talk:Religious antisemitism § Split this article into "Jew-hate in christianity", "Jew-hate in Islam", and "Anti-Judaism"

Solarian religion

I know what you mean by "solarian religion", but you are the first to use these words in this sense, as far as I can Google it. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is a coinage of my own, within the English language, but I doubt that I'm the first to conceive of the phenomenon in this way. Sun worship, although now mainstream opinion due to the malign influence of Egypt and Rome, is an error that is very well known and highly refuted since ancient times. And moderate lunacy, although a minority WP:fringe opinion, is in accord with natural philosophy and health science. Did I use the term in an article, or merely in talk? Its been a while and I don't remember the details. And I'm glad that we can stipulate to a definition of terms, prior to debating over the metaphysics. And if I can be credited with WP:Original Research, when someone writes a book about this, I probably shouldn't be credited with original thought. The sources are out there, but probably suppressed or ignored here on wikipedia as they are in the universities. Jaredscribe (talk) 04:26, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I was trying to create the article on the french wikipedia, and this was a mistake. thanks Itcouldbepossible, Please delete the article for now and we'll translate later. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:29, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fortunately and contrary to habit, I read my talk page, and thus was able to successfully contest the speedy deletion of this notable and adequate stub outline, before going through the lengthy and unnecessary process of undeletion. Hi, RoanokeVirginia, please read the talk page discussion immediately below and take what you can and learn. Also, you have not yet researched or improved this new article, that I saved from your speedy deletion attempt. Why not? If you're willing to be a new page patroller, then you ought to be willing to research and contribute. And if you not willing to research and contribute, then I think you should also not enforce policy. Thanks for considering my opinion on this, the opinion of an "editor" who is first and foremost a READER and a CONTRIBUTOR, Jaredscribe (talk) 01:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine

I removed that story, I think you linked it in or added it originally, about a Russian officer surrendering. I don't think it can be trusted because it was sourced to the NY Post. I thought I should let you know since you undid my edit earlier, in case you disagree or have a different source. --Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 09:16, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a subject i consider WP:NOTABLE, with redlinks in the ledes of other notable articles on US Gov, and if you think otherwise it can be handled through the normal process for that. I think you should have listened to the advice of the
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  • template on the page, which advised you "if you can improve this article, please do". If you weren't willing to do the RESEARCH, like a good CONTRIBUTOR, then imho you should have done nothing at all, instead of presuming to administrate. That way, I or someone else could have improved the encyclopedia. Failing that, I think you should have moved it to DRAFT status, instead of speed deleting it within an hour of its creation (of course its incomplete - what do you expect?). It seems that Ritchie333 speed deleted it, and left this summary: "A3: Article has no meaningful, substantive content)". To which I reply "A3: ... However, a very short article may be a valid stub if it has context, in which case it is not eligible for deletion under this criterion. Similarly, this criterion does not cover a page having only an infobox .. Do not tag under this criterion in the first few minutes after a new article is created." I hope the two of you can advise each other on who to improve your adminstration in the future. If you would DO THE RESEARCH, or at least MAKE A DRAFT, then wouldn't need to waste our time on this. Like Fram did on my other contribution, Draft:Federal_Council_on_the_Arts_and_the_Humanities, which was a marginally better and more humble response. If you give me a day or three, or at least a few hours, then I and other editors will be able to improve the article. In the edit summary, Fram asks "what is it?" To which I answer, DO THE RESEARCH. I provided external links. And I know alot of people don't like google these days, but have you ever tried [ddg.gg Duck Duck Go]? Please undelete and restore the page as a draft. Thanks Fram for not forcing me to humiliate you any further, and for not wasting any more of our time. I hope this will be a teachable moment, and that other "editors" and admins who revert and delete but don't research (and there are too many of these) will learn from your and Ritchie333's example of repentance. Next time, try WP:BRDR, WP:PARTR, WP:PRESERVE. Thanks, Jaredscribe (talk) 01:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Next time, write something which has a basic resemblance to an article, instead of the... thing you produced. And don't expect to get any cooperation from people with the attitude you display here. If I encounter other similar "articles" from you while doing New Page Patrol in the future, I'll tag them again for speedy for the same reason, and it is nearly certain that other admins will again delete it for the same reason. If you can't even write a few sentences describing the subject you pretend to write an article about, then don't complain about the actions of others. You can always try Wikipedia:Dispute resolution if you want to, but be aware that it may backfire. Fram (talk) 08:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Then again, you apparently thought Draft:Agoric was an acceptable mainspace article. And Draft:Adam Wolfson is tagged for copyright violations. I don't think I am the one having to worry about humiliation here. Fram (talk) 08:44, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Russian Revolution

    You added that theory in about the revolution really beginning with Alexander I getting assassinated, but I don't think it should be in the beginning. It's an interesting idea, but it's not the usual understanding of the revolution. I think it would be better if you added a subsection mentioning that some historians say it was a long process starting with Alexander I. If there are enough historians who say that, of course. Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 04:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Ok, thanks for telling me why you removed it, YellowDiamond feel free to move this discussion, and next time to start it on the article talk page, so other editors can get involved. At least the lede should have mention of the 1905 Russian Revolution, where Lenin, Trotsky got their start and the various factions emerged who later fought the 1918-22 civil war. Meanwhile there are much more serious problems that I mentioned in talk, and this "cutting" of history supports the Lenist-Bolshevik POV for which I tagged the article as being non-neutral. Talk:Russian Revolution § Major Ommissions and Leninist-Bolshevik POV. I'm pleasantly surprised that editor FictiousLibrarian took half my suggestions and added the relevant material so quickly. I've added the other half, and if it stays that way, I'll consider the article baseline neutral and worth investing in, and then we can work on the historical context. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, I'm just restoring it to its default. You can start a discussion about it if you'd like. But I agree the lede should mention the historical context. --Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 05:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Now Here: Draft:Magnesia (Plato). Jaredscribe (talk) 00:27, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    About the articles you've been making

    You have made a lot of articles that are not finished, and published them in the main space. This causes problems because people could find them and read them even though they contain blank sections or unsourced information. You should use draft space instead until they're ready. Here's the page with information on making drafts: Wikipedia:Drafts.

    I also nominated your Magnesia article for deletion (a notification should appear on here); I just don't think it is well-known by itself? If you have information on it I think you should just make a section in Laws (dialogue) instead of a separate article. But if you do, don't leave any sections empty or unsourced in the mainspace please.

    Thanks, --Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 04:47, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Ok, I agree they don't belong yet, and expect them to be moved to "draft" soon. I put them in mainspace because I can't figure out how to click on a red link and make a draft? The interface only gives me the option to make it in mainspace. Sometimes I move it manually, myself to draft space, sometimes not. But I appreciate when the new page patrollers come around very quickly, they will categorize and move it to draft space for me, and sometimes will attract an interested contributor. Jaredscribe (talk) 05:36, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't made many articles, and not in a long time, so my knowledge might be incomplete. But on my interface, there's a link above the input area when creating a new article which if you click it creates the article as "special:mypage/(article name)". That should have the same results as a draft. The Wikipedia:Drafts also has a search bar where you can type in an article name and then it becomes a draft. I haven't tested it myself but I assume it works well.
    If you have any questions about it feel free to send me a message. Thanks, Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 05:45, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually I should mention, if you use the special:mypage link it makes a userspace draft attached to your username. The Wikipedia:drafts search bar should make a draft namespace page. It's probably better to use the second option if you want to get it noticed by other people, so that it's not explicitly tied to you. Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 05:56, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    It's fine in theory, but you need to add sources when you make big changes to articles. Like on Antisemitism in Christianity, if you want it to say that it's specifically based on supercession and is part of the council of Nicaea, you've got to back it up with sources. And it can't just be the opinion of a few scholars, it has to be consensus among the academic community, if it is going to go in the lede and define the entire article. --Yellow Diamond Δ Direct Line to the Diamonds 03:24, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Thank you for creating it and promoting it! I'd forgotten all about this, thanks for reminding me. I'll return to this important subject matter someday. In the meantime, I wish you all the best and I recommend that you adopt and adapt these User:Jaredscribe/Encyclopedic Ethics so that you might prevail in your content disputes, and help to actually improve and expand the WP:Encyclopedia in the face of so much obscurantism and ignorance here. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    I did it only in anticipation of the piquant irony of this disambiguation notice. I deserve a barnstar for this. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:16, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    "homonymous" is the greek equivalent of the latin "equivocal". Jaredscribe (talk) 06:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem with homonyms within an argument, is that they are equivocal but NOT equivalent. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:22, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This frequently causes an informal fallacy known as Equivocation Jaredscribe (talk) 06:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Which is to say, semantic ambiguity leading to false equivalence. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thats why I added a more complete definition to the disambiguation page for equivocal. Jaredscribe (talk) 06:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Irony

    I find it funny that you cite a page which says Don't cite essays or proposals as if they were policy (and is itself an essay) and then go on to cite not one but two different essays as if they were policy to justify a revert of my edit (which was based on WP:NOT and WP:NOR...). Other than that, and to get to the meat of the issue, there's rarely a good reason to cite a primary source unless it explicitly adds something that a secondary source does not have - given that we have actual full articles on stuff like the First Epistle of Peter or the First Epistle to the Corinthians (and those are linked directly from the Easter article), and that most of the secondary sources do quote or at least mention directly the passages they are referring to, there's little point in adding explicit Bible links. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. I can't help but notice this is not the first time (see here) you've been warned about this, and yet the issue seems to be exactly the same (and on exactly the same kind of topic as well). Accusations that I (or anybody else) would be trying to "waste everybody's time" or that I am engaging in "a dishonest form of WP:Wikilawyering", are clearly against both WP:AGF and WP:NPA. As for the last part, defer to editors from wikiproject christianity, who are known to have subject matter competence consistent with wikipedia content policies,, beyond being yet another insinuation that I don't have a clue, is also fragrantly in breach of the fact that A) Wikipedia is an open encyclopedia, which anybody can edit and of B) that nobody owns or has authority over an article. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Thanks moving it to draftspace, instead of merely nominating for deletion, like so many of the other new page patrollers do. Please teach them.
    Also, I often create stub articles by clicking on redlinks, and these are put in mainspace by default. Perhaps they should be put in draftspace by default, since that is what I and probably many other contributors intend to do, but neglect to do because its difficult. This is a feature request that will reduce workload for y'all and make less frustration for us. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 00:19, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Ok, thank for informing me. You could have reworked the links into an acceptable format, instead of merely removing them.
    I remade the new section that you removed:
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    If these aren't included, then the page isn't doing its job of disambiguation. They should also be prominent on the Promised Land page, and they aren't. Jaredscribe (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    June 2022 - Giuliani's crossing dressing comedy theater

    Information icon Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Rudy Giuliani. Thank you. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    "S/he"? Please stop being disruptive. His crossdressing on SNL is not significant enough to add to his article, especially referring to it as "transvestitism". Do it again and I'll block you from editing Giuliani's page. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Which pronouns should I use to refer to Mr. Giuliani in drag? is there a wikipedia gender styleguide?
    I will use cross-dressing, as you suggest, which by the way is a literal translation of the latin transvestism.
    But if you are proposing that discussion of these topics be WP:CENSORED from wikipedia, then you should take it to the village pump. Will you block me for making use of terms that are acceptable enough for us to have articles on them?
    The significance of this episode, or its lack thereof, may be discussed on the article talk page. You should not block people for WP:DISCUSSion, since our wikipedia guideline for content disputes such as this is discussion on the article talk page. Jaredscribe (talk) 04:15, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Is this language acceptable?

    Donald Trump appeared in comedy sketch with Rudy Giuliani. Cross dressing and groping occurred.

    "Video of Rudy Giuliani Dressed in Drag and Being Seduced by Donald Trump Resurfaces". www.yahoo.com. Retrieved 2022-06-14.
    "Bizarre video of Rudy Giuliani in drag and Trump kissing his fake breasts resurfaces". The Independent. 2018-05-10. Retrieved 2022-06-14. Jaredscribe (talk) 05:26, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Stop icon with clock

    You have been blocked from editing certain pages (Rudy Giuliani) for WP:BLP violations and edit warring.

    If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  – Muboshgu (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    We are not here to WP:RGW, as you indicated in your edit summary. If Giuliani goes to prison, it will be for trying to subvert an election, not crossdressing on SNL. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:34, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Since you took your BLP policy violating foolishness to Donald Trump, you are indefinitely blocked from editing that article as well. Cullen328 (talk) 21:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Cullen328, they just posted the content on Rudy's talk page. Do you think that we should elevate the block? – Muboshgu (talk) 01:23, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Muboshgu, that is a disappointing development, but I need to take care of some important family business off Wikipedia for an hour or two. I will support whatever escalated sanctions that you feel are are appropriate, up to and including an indefinite block. This conduct is "way" out of line, even though I am not a member of the Rudy and Donald fan club. Far from it. Cullen328 (talk) 01:30, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Cullen328, understood. Best of luck IRL. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    We are here to subject the relationship between Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani to public scrutiny, since it is NEWSWORTHY and of significant public interest due to current events, and therefore ENCYCLOPEDIC. We are here to report what reliable sources have to say about twenty plus years of their relationship, at least I am. I said nothing about prison, you fabricated that apparently in order to caricature my remarks about them apparently conspiring to overturn the 2020 US Presidential Election. a judge or jury will decide whether he's found guilty or not guilty, and in any case it has nothing to do with the point at hand. i brought that up in order to establish that the subject of their relationship is itself highly notable, has been noted in recent years by the media.
    in response to your edit summary 'you can't be serious', i reply 'yes, i am serious about proposing this for inclusion, and this is one of many reasons why its notable'.
    Where great wrongs have been done, they will be righted by persons other than us, and this is now starting to occur independently of what we do or say about it. I intend to simply report on the historical account, and i do that on every article that reports on real-life controversies, without partisan or national prejudice. Please WP:AGF and judge my demonstrated words and editorial actions, and not what you imagine about my private obsessions. Jaredscribe (talk) 22:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In my decision to obvert my contributions that you, Muboshgu, had reverted, was not an edit war.
    I remained within the 3 revert rule, while conducting a content dispute in good-faith. I followed the WP:Bold-refine process, improving incrementally with each obvert. You on the other hand did not attempt to improve or refine my contribution.Responsive to your edit summaries, I added reliable sources. I removed the phrasing of the latin transvestite and replaced it's english equivalent cross-dressing, which Giuliani indisputably did in fact do in sketch comedy. I moved from a 2nd level heading under "personal life" into a 3rd level subsection under "relationship with Donald Trump". What more do you want? After my third 'obvert', i took it to talk, but you refused to talk, and simply make a revdel. You and @Cullen328, between the two of you made 4 reverts, and then refused to discuss or allow a discussion to happen on the article talk page about whether or not to include, and if so, where and how to phrase. that you hold the opinion that its trivial, doesn't justify refusal to talk about. moreover, you have been unable or unwilling to bring clear charges against be by stating what exactly the violation is of our policy on biographies of living persons. are you accusing me of libel, or of privacy violation, or merely of making bad comedy in violation of some policy somewhere on seriousness. Who here is edit warring? Jaredscribe (talk) 22:41, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Stop icon with clock

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    Hello, please explain to me how I violated the policy on WP:BLP? I recorded facts in a straightforward manner, that were reported by the "Mainstream Media", generally considered reliable in wikipeda. In this case Yahoo News, and the Independent, commenting on an SNL sketch in which Giuliani cross-dressed and was groped by Donald Trump. I didn't make this stuff up, its not slander, its not libel, its widely published. You are free to dispute over inclusion and to seek consensus for your opinion that it should be excluded, but my conduct of a good faith content dispute is not disruptive, simply because you or another editors disagrees on whether to include it. That's why I took it to the talk page, to ask what other editors have to say about it, besides just you and I - is that not the Wikpedia policy for content dispute? I see that y'all have removed the proposition from the talk page, so no discussion will be had. Moreover, have used your adminstrative powers to remove from the database my cogent four point argument for inclusion. No one will be able to read what I wrote, or audit your actions in removing it. In addition to blocking me for a week, and threatening me with indefinite block. Do you WP:OWN wikipedia?
    What exactly is the violation of BLP? Also, I thought that Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED, is that not the case? For example, we have an article on Cross-dressing. If republicans and new yorkers find this to be distasteful, then they can stop reading wikipedia, or else than may direct their complaints toward SNL, Rudy, and Donald. Its not my fault for having offended by bringing this up. What here is"way out of line"? Please declare the policy that I've violated, or else reinstate my editing priveleges. I will leave these two pages alone until other editors can weigh in on the talk pages, and I will abide by consensus opinion, as should we all. Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 02:18, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I also would like to add that anyone is free to edit or modify my phrasing to make it more appropriate for the encyclopedia. If I've offended anyone, I'm very sorry. I honestly don't know which pronouns to use when referring to Giuliani in drag. Please advise. Jaredscribe (talk) 02:28, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    To be fair, you didn't see my response before I WP:REVDEL'd it. So it's below:
    Some things seem so common sense as to not need a deep explanation, but anyway I did give several and can give more. This is a WP:BLP and you are violating it with "s/he" and what follows in that sentence. You are wording what they did in a skit as though it was real. You seem to have a WP:RGW obsession too with your point on aspersions it might cast. There is no political significance; Rudy crossdressing has nothing to do with the 2020 election. Wikipedia is not censored, but verifiability does not guarantee inclusion, especially something as WP:TRIVIAL as this. An entire section dedicated to it, with such poor language (continues to generate commentary is quite meaningless) is WP:UNDUE. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    On the other hand, you've been given ample warning by me and by Cullen328, and yet you persisted. You are free to request an unblock review and a fresh admin will review it. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Jaredscribe, I think that you got off quite easy in this situation, in that Muboshgu was willing to give you an easy second chance. I was prepared to possibly block you indefinitely for your obvious, clear-cut policy violations. Perhaps you should consider refraining from editing biographies of living people if you are tempted to engage in tendentious axe-grinding on biographies of living people that you dislike. Do not ever engage in this type of misconduct again. Cullen328 (talk) 03:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok thanks. There seem to be four separate accusations against me and my contribution and subsequent discussion of it on the talk page
    1. A content dispute about whether the material is trivial or undue, as you assert, or whether it is encyclopedic as assert. Perhaps this should no longer argued between you and me, but left to the input of other disinterested editors, in a good faith content dispute on talk pages of the associated articles, after we agree on acceptable terms of discussion.
    2. The allegation of editorial misconduct against me for using the wrong pronouns for the female character played by Mr. Giuliani in his sketch comedy with Mr. Trump. Again, I'm very sorry if I offended anyone. I await your advice and guidance on which pronouns to use in the future, either on these articles and their talk pages, or more likely on articles for List of Saturday Night Live episodes (seasons 1–30), which is perhaps where it belongs. but lets leave that question for later. the issue here is how do we discuss the matter without giving unnecessary offense.
    3. It seems you dropped the charges against me on the point of the word used to describe the behavior, since I had removed the offensive word and replaced it with "Theatrical cross-dressing" before you reverted my refined contribution for the third time. If so please confirm. Prior to your educating me, I was not aware that this was the preferred term. In the future and for the purposes of discussion, I will use "Theatrical cross-dressing", instead of the other word. Please accept my humble apology, and continue to correct phrasing when necessary. Is there a wikipedia styleguide that describes our guidelines on this, and other sensitive language?
    4. The accusation that my description of the event as "Theatrical cross-dressing" and "sketch comedy" somehow mis-represented it as having occurred in the real world outside.
    5. You've stated that there seems to be a bad faith obsession on my part to right great comic wrongs, above and beyond my mere attempt to report the verifiable facts by reference to reliable sources.
    6. The insinuation that, apart from the way I phrased the contribution, that I've somehow libeled, slandered, otherwise "cast aspersions" on Mr. Giuliani or Mr. Trump in a way that violates the policy on WP:BLP, by merely bringing the subject up for discussion among encyclopedia editors on the article talk page.
    Please confirm or deny that I've understood you correctly, and clarify where necessary, so that we can resolve this with a minimum of mis-applied effort, and get back to making an encyclopedia, which is my goal. I hope its yours as well.
    Regards, Jaredscribe (talk) 01:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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    Request reason:

    1. Blocking admins have failed to state which BLP policy is being violated. They Have failed to instruct on which pronouns I should use to refer to Rudy Giuliani in drag, despite repeated requests for clarification. Did Donald Trump grope 'his' breasts, or hers? Or shall we rather report that Donald groped his 'transfeminine chest area'? I really don't know or care. On this, I will defer to expert opinion or consensus, and that's why I left it ambiguous - it is an open question. Also, 'foolishness' is not against wikipedia content policy: much pop culture is foolish but nevertheless included in this encyclopedia, and the foolishness being reported here, in any case, is not mine.

    2. No edit warring has occurred on my part: I stayed within 3RR, used WP:Bold-refine process on my WP:Obverts, making suggested improvements and adding reference to reliable sources. after the third revert, I took it to WP:DISCUSSION as per our policy on content dispute. Why is he blocking me for following policy?! These admins made no improvements to my contributions, and if anyone is edit warring, it is them.
    3. The two admins are using elevated blocking powers in order to conduct an editorial content dispute that ought to be had on the article talk page between editors, about this contribution's significance, or lack thereof. The use of blocking rather than discussion may be an abuse of process. The article talk page, and not on a user talk page or in an administrative forum, is the correct place for editors to ask and answer the question of phrasing, notability, significance, due and undue weight. We should WP:Assume Good Faith and trust editors to conduct the discussion in a WP:CIVIL manner, despite its inherent foolishness. Jaredscribe (talk) 04:50, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Decline reason:

    I'm having trouble deciding if this dispute and request is a joke or if you are serious- either way, the block is valid. Either you are joking and being disruptive, or you are serious and violating WP:BLP requirements for sourcing(which you have indeed been told). 3RR is not an entitlement to three reverts, you can be determined to be edit warring with fewer reverts(this is stated in the policy) and given your comments you clearly were. As stated at Cross-dressing, it is not synonymous with being transgender. John Travolta certainly is not transgender for appearing as a woman in Hairspray (2007 film). I don't see any reason to remove the block early at this time. 331dot (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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    The contribution was serious, and on my first WP:Obvert, I added two reliable sources. "Video of Rudy Giuliani Dressed in Drag and Being Seduced by Donald Trump Resurfaces". www.yahoo.com. Retrieved 2022-06-14. "Bizarre video of Rudy Giuliani in drag and Trump kissing his fake breasts resurfaces". The Independent. 2018-05-10. Retrieved 2022-06-14. After being warned not to use the word transvestite ('vestiture' is latin for 'clothing' or 'dress'), I modified the text to use the word cross-dressing instead, as suggested. This is consistent with WP:Bold-refine, which is the ideal collaborative edit cycle; it is not edit warring. The word 'transgender' was never used or suggested by me, and I would describe John Travolta's appearance in Hairspray as 'transvestiture' or 'cross-dressing'; I agree with 331dot on that, but this adminstrator has not closely examined the facts of this case, or else is deliberately caricaturing my serious contribution. In any case, 331dot has fundamentally mis-judged. As you see at Talk:Rudy_Giuliani&action=history, I made a talk page section /* Theatrical Cross-dressing */, and the final reason for my block was for the talk page discussion. Sources had already been given. The term 'cross-dressing' had already been put into use. Muboshgu blocked me not for BLP violations, but simply because he has seen fit to WP:CENSOR wikipedia in this case. 331dot says that comments of mine 'were clearly edit warring', but which ones?

    This - [5]?  The comment I made was:
    

    Ok, I moved the section under →‎Relationship with Donald Trump: and renamed it "Theatrical Cross-Dressing". Ok, or should we modify and put it somewhere else? Pronouns? But surely you cannot be serious about suppressing the story. These two conspired to overturn the 2020 US Presidential Election; their relationship must be open to public scrutiny WP:Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia

    These are valid, good faith questions that the blocking admin never answered. I stand by the assertions: their relationship must be open to public scrutiny, and WP:Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia. These admins disagree. They apparently believe that they WP:OWN wikpedia, and that they can get away with abusing their powers to violate wikipedia's own blocking and content policy, squash dissent, prevent WP:Discussion, abdicate the encyclopedic mission, and disrupt constructive editors like myself who are trying to fulfill it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaredscribe (talkcontribs) 11:13, June 21, 2022 (UTC)

    I think I've been clear and you don't want to hear it. There are ways one can discuss adding Giuliani's crossdressing to an "in popular culture" section, and then there's what you've done / are doing. Your accusations of OWN are unfortunate. I've nothing left to say on this matter. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Resigned Atty General Bill Barr says that Trump showed little to "no interest in the actual facts"

    Biden announces upcoming visit in July, sends mideast advisor Brett McGurk to meet Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, who denies involvement in murdering Jamal Khashoggi and says "it never should have happened". 13 human rights groups send letter of protest. MBS demands US make no unilateral moves on Iran, and instead consult regional partners. Biden, at briefing earlier this month when asked about a possible trip to Saudi Arabia: “I’m not going to change my view on human rights, But as president of the United States, my job is to bring peace if I can. And that’s what I’m going to try to do.” Biden agrees to thaw relationship, more or less on MBS's terms

    Record number of black republicans running for officein2022 United States elections. National GOP counts 81 African American candidates running in 72 congressional districts, more than a 50 percent increase over the 2020 election cycle.

    Platinum_Jubilee_of_Elizabeth_II Critics have noted that the British monarchy has derived much of its power from empire, just as imperial nationalism has drawn legitimacy from monarchy.[1]

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    Editing Draft:Letter from Mathilde Lefebvre

    Hello Jaredscribe,

    I am Jeanne Angerie and I would like to translate a French article in English. The article is (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lettre_de_Mathilde_Lefebvre). I have already tried to make a translation here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Letter_from_Mathilde_Lefebvre) but it was rejected.

    Could you help me to improve the article, please ?

    Thanks, Jeanne Angerie Jeanne Angerie (talk) 07:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    August 2022

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    For more information, see: Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources HurricaneEdgar 10:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    See my response at Talk:2022_Chinese_military_exercises_around_Taiwan#Restore_statement_by_US_Secretary_of_State_Antony_Blinken. thanks, Jaredscribe (talk) 01:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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    A query

    RE: [7]. How is a nomination of this remotely disruptive? Curbon7 (talk) 22:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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