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Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Cheung Chau fishball, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. UKWikiGuy (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only edit I've made to that page in over a year is to remove the orphan tag, because I de-orphaned it. Not sure what you're objecting to here, @UKWikiGuy. Valereee (talk) 14:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the thread closed. Did what I already said in it answer your question? I will be very happy to give you a dispassionate explanation of "what is Google indexing" if you would like one. They are using well-known techniques for controlling what Google can and cannot access. When people say things like "once it is on the internet it is there forever", usually this is in reference to social media posts that have gone viral, but I understand why the distinction might not be clear to a non-technical user. Elinruby (talk) 06:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't actually ask a question, I don't think? You'd said I didn't understand how google indexing works, and I agreed -- did you think I was asking for an explanation of google indexing? I wasn't. I hadn't even brought search engines up; literally the only mention of google I made was to quote you when you named the private forum. I certainly never said "what is Google indexing" -- yes, I know what it is, but I don't care how it works -- nor did I say "once it is on the internet it is there forever". (Nor do I believe that; I've had enough experience trying to access sources that never got archived by Wayback to know it's not true.) At any rate, my concern has nothing to do with that discussion being findable via search engine.
My concern is exactly what I said: the discussion of a colleague, referring to them as an imbecile, starts out in a public space. Eventually moving it private doesn't mitigate the harm and may actually make it worse by calling attention to this private area where colleagues 'too embarrassing to discuss in public' can be talked about slightly more privately. I would not be shocked to learn that there were people creating accounts over the past few days so they could check that forum out. People love that shit. As long as it's not about them. Valereee (talk) 12:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry hard-wired help desk response I guess then. Just following up. Certainly not trying to push a technical explanation down your throat <g> As for your surmise, I have not particularly noticed that, although we were up to 75 unregistered guests last night at one point, which is quite a bit higher than usual. I do see your concern, but the problem is not as I see it in the fleeting existence visibility of a post saying yeah I think we should move the thread. And since we are managing to speak like adults here, let me ask you to consider being accused of harassing someone when you have done nothing of the kind, and having the admonition be immortalized with an admonition not to call any names, when you haven't done that either. And that *is* on the internet forever, and I guarantee that it will be brought up the next time someone says my citation needed was a personal attack. Anyway, just saying. Nice talking to you, and have a nice day. Elinruby (talk) 16:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, @Elinruby, I certainly didn't intend to accuse you of harassment or calling names, and I apologize that it felt that way. I have no knowledge of you doing either, so if that's what my posts felt like, I'm very sorry. It wasn't what I intended. Valereee (talk) 18:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That was the basic theory. That having been in the thread at all, even saying something as innocuous in itself as "Aha. That's why", constituted harassment because BADSITES BADSITES BADSITES. The thread was closed as "let's all stop the namecalling", which I protested, but given that the mob had its pitchforks out, perhaps there was truth to the theory that it was better for the project if it all just stopped, and possibly also even for me. Watch, though. As soon as I get back to source verification about the genocide at Canadian residential schools, however, I will be mean for pointing out that a certain source is not reliable, and that thread absolutely will come up. The one Star Mississippi closed as "nothing to do here" still does after all, even if the "incivility" was giving someone a contentious topics alert. Again, just saying. This post does not require a reply or any action on your part. Thank you for reading it. Elinruby (talk) 20:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
The Wikimedia Foundation seeks applicants for the Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). This group will bring technical contributors and Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform. Council members will evaluate and consult on the movement's product and technical activities, so that we develop multi-generational projects. We are looking for a range of technical contributors across the globe, from a variety of Wikimedia projects. Please apply here by August 10.
Editors with rollback user-rights who use the Wikipedia App for Android can use the new Edit Patrol features. These features include a new feed of Recent Changes, related links such as Undo and Rollback, and the ability to create and save a personal library of user talk messages to use while patrolling. If your wiki wants to make these features available to users who do not have rollback rights but have reached a certain edit threshold, you can contact the team. You can read more about this project on Diff blog.
Next week, functionaries, volunteers maintaining tools, and software development teams are invited to test the temporary accounts feature on testwiki. Temporary accounts is a feature that will help improve privacy on the wikis. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page. [1]
Editors who upload files cross-wiki, or teach other people how to do so, may wish to join a Wikimedia Commons discussion. The Commons community is discussing limiting who can upload files through the cross-wiki upload/Upload dialog feature to users auto-confirmed on Wikimedia Commons. This is due to the large amount of copyright violations uploaded this way. There is a short summary at Commons:Cross-wiki upload and discussion at Commons:Village Pump.
Could you please explain why you have closed my discussion? Unilateral actions with no justification seem to be a pattern of behaviour within wikipedia SnarkyDragon (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Cheung Chau fishball, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. UKWikiGuy (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
