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::Definitely sympathetic to your points; wanted to record my doubt for others to see, as well as to spark any discourse. I will say most people won't be as careful/nuanced as you are with your instructions to your students. As we speak I'm on the front lines of cleaning up a lot of unsourced information that was often ported over from the kowiki 😅. It's a lot of work that I'd rather people didn't create more of. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 23:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC) |
::Definitely sympathetic to your points; wanted to record my doubt for others to see, as well as to spark any discourse. I will say most people won't be as careful/nuanced as you are with your instructions to your students. As we speak I'm on the front lines of cleaning up a lot of unsourced information that was often ported over from the kowiki 😅. It's a lot of work that I'd rather people didn't create more of. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 23:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Frankly, I am more concerned about improperly referenced content. I fear many people - including my students - are adding references that do not fully back up the text they are attached too. Cleaning up unreferenced content is only the tip of the iceberg :( Frankly, after 20 years here, I believe that unless the article is GA+ or has been written primarily by an experienced trustworthy editor, much of the content that appears referenced probably isn't :( <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 02:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
:::Frankly, I am more concerned about improperly referenced content. I fear many people - including my students - are adding references that do not fully back up the text they are attached too. Cleaning up unreferenced content is only the tip of the iceberg :( Frankly, after 20 years here, I believe that unless the article is GA+ or has been written primarily by an experienced trustworthy editor, much of the content that appears referenced probably isn't :( <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 02:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:East Asian Gothic typeface#Requested move 27 March 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:East Asian Gothic typeface#Requested move 27 March 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 19:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Korean monarch names in infoboxes == |
== Korean monarch names in infoboxes == |
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Does anyone know about this? I don't have much background in pre-modern Korean history. If there's consensus that this is unusual, I may propose going through using [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser]] to automatically redo every infobox to remove this kind of pattern. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 07:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) |
Does anyone know about this? I don't have much background in pre-modern Korean history. If there's consensus that this is unusual, I may propose going through using [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser]] to automatically redo every infobox to remove this kind of pattern. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 07:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Liberal Unification Party#Requested move 12 March 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Liberal Unification Party#Requested move 12 March 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:RodRabelo7|RodRabelo7]] ([[User talk:RodRabelo7|talk]]) 23:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Dare to Love Me (TV series)#Requested move 17 April 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Dare to Love Me (TV series)#Requested move 17 April 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <span style="background:#FFBE98;border:1px solid black">[[User:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7"><b>98</b></span>]][[User talk:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7"><b>𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂</b></span>]]</span> 08:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Rewrote [[March 1st Movement]] == |
== Rewrote [[March 1st Movement]] == |
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:Agreed... I hope they consulted the Wikimedia Foundation about this and understand Wikipedia's editing policies well. [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 07:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC) |
:Agreed... I hope they consulted the Wikimedia Foundation about this and understand Wikipedia's editing policies well. [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 07:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Boo_Seung-kwan#Requested_move_8_June_2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Boo_Seung-kwan#Requested_move_8_June_2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:Orangesclub|Orangesclub]] ([[User talk:Orangesclub|talk]]) 00:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Is K-Pop a music genre? == |
== Is K-Pop a music genre? == |
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I'm going to make a point of trying to balance out this kind of info going forward; please join me in it if you can. Again, we of course want to preserve the truth and provide enough tools for people to do more reading about the dark topics without harping on them. [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 09:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
I'm going to make a point of trying to balance out this kind of info going forward; please join me in it if you can. Again, we of course want to preserve the truth and provide enough tools for people to do more reading about the dark topics without harping on them. [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 09:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:A further thought; part of this is influenced by English-language coverage of Korea, which also tends to fixate on Korea's tragic past. Drama sells books and gets views in the news. |
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:Korean-language coverage is of course much more varied. This is another reason why more Korean speakers are needed on Enwiki. [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 08:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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An editor has requested that List of Korean films of 1919–1948 be moved to List of films produced in Korea under Japanese rule, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. toobigtokale (talk) 04:46, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § Thinking about removing Wiktionary links in some cases. 172.56.232.35 (talk) 05:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've become a little skeptical of using and encouraging the use of Template:Expand Korean and similar. At the moment, many articles on it have a systemic issue with poor sourcing; possibly influenced by Namuwiki. I think it can be nice to look at for ideas or book/source recommendations, but encouraging people to translate it I think may create some work for us in sourcing and fact checking. toobigtokale (talk) 06:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed that in many infoboxes for Korean monarchs, their name is written in Hangul/Hanja as "[State] [Name]", for example『고려 성종』("Goryeo Seongjong").
But I've never really seen a similar naming pattern used in Korean to describe kings like this. For example, the string『고려 성종』does not appear a single time on ko:성종 (고려).
I feel like this may have been artificially done to match the English naming pattern ("[Name] of [State]"), but I feel like this gives misleading emphasis on the use of this kind of naming pattern in Korean.
Does anyone know about this? I don't have much background in pre-modern Korean history. If there's consensus that this is unusual, I may propose going through using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to automatically redo every infobox to remove this kind of pattern. toobigtokale (talk) 07:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a month or two late for the holiday, but rewrote this article. If anyone can upload more photos of the event, particularly ones good for the infobox, that'd be appreciated (I can't as an IP user). 104.232.119.107 (talk) 06:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, everyone! I'd like to invite you all to sign up for the upcoming 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. The event runs from July 1 to September 30 and signups close on July 15. The WikiContest focuses on developing countries, which they have included North Korea within. The intention is to improve the English Wikipedia's coverage and comprehension of articles related to developing countries. For this reason, you may also expect that articles related to the North Korea may be heavily edited during the contest. More information on how points will be awarded can be found at Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring. For comments or suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Wikipedia talk:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. Thank you! (Copied with the permission of Chlod) CMD (talk) 12:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now that sadly this extremely useful article was deleted, how to provide this information instead? It sounds like we're now forced to include it in each artist's article instead, and perhaps add tracking categories by year under Category:Lists of concert tours of South Korean artists?Nemo 15:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mental health in South Korea is in significant need of expansion. I just gave it a revision to combine redundant info and regroup/reorder topics, but it's still relatively sparse. If you can help out, please do. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 05:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We'll see what happens, I guess. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Due to my edits on quite a lot of articles of K-Pop songs being removed most of them saying K-Pop isn't a genre. I believe it is and I want to provide a consensus across Wikipedia if it is.
From what I know, the first known open discussion about this is made by me at Talk:K-pop#Is K-Pop a music genre? and one at Talk:Ddu-du Ddu-Du#Is K-Pop a music genre?
If this discussion gets too big, maybe it could it a WikiProject if it works like that too. —Tonkarooson (talk) 00:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone has any idea why we are missing the following tool for Korea - linking Chinese here as examples of functionality that (and many other projects) have: Category:China articles without infoboxes .
There is no Category:Korea articles without infoboxes :( Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 03:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wife ((G)I-dle song)#Requested move 30 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 04:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A quote from the article about the SK government and Wikipedia has made me think recently. When searching for Korea-related information on travel information platforms, one often encounters topics such as the demilitarized zone (DMZ) tourism, while the rich and diverse aspects of Korean culture and society remain largely overlooked.
My feelings on the article are mixed, but this quote made me notice a pattern I hadn't fully processed before.
Some articles for Korea about places and things are I think unfairly bleak reading. I think it's because we have a disproportionate number of people interested in Korea's wars (particularly the Korean War) and in little else about Korea, which has led to a sharp imbalance that unfairly hurts Korea's image.
I almost feel like this is a case of WP:BLP. Hypothetically, if you had a small village with a tragic past but people still living there today, do they really deserve to have 70% of their article be about war and death, when they've done so much else before and after that? Yes, the info is true; Korea's recent history was bleak. If there was lots of other non-war info presented in each article, it wouldn't be an issue. But at present so many articles make Korea look like a still-smouldering crater, which is far from the truth.
I'm going to make a point of trying to balance out this kind of info going forward; please join me in it if you can. Again, we of course want to preserve the truth and provide enough tools for people to do more reading about the dark topics without harping on them. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 09:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]