| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Al-Qaeda article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies |
| Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11Auto-archiving period: 154 days  |
 | The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
| This page is not a forum for general discussion about Al-Qaeda. Any such comments may be removedorrefactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Al-Qaeda at the Reference desk. |
 | Discussions on this page often lead to previous arguments being restated. Please read recent comments and look in the archives before commenting. |
 | A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on August 11, 2009. |
 | This  level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 | Wikipedia has a policy of not calling people or groups "terrorist". This is not an indication of condoning "terrorist" activities, but of neutrality, and avoidance of passing judgment, affirming or denying. Please debate the merit of this policy at WT:Words to avoid, not here. |
| Editing note: the definite article "al-" is always lowercase, unless beginning a sentence. Article titles are in sentence case according to WP:TITLEFORMAT and the Manual of Style for Arabic. |
 | This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report. The week in which this happened: |
 |
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at pageviews.wmcloud.org
|
|
|
 | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change "fatawas" in the first sentence of paragraph 3 to either fatawa or fatāwā. This is already the plural form; a final "s" is redundant and incorrect. Even "fatwas" (used elsewhere in the article) would be better than what's currently there. 2600:1700:3EC7:4150:3CD2:E660:A0DF:A704 (talk) 03:35, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done ~ Eejit43 (talk) 04:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply] | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change the line "In his 2004 book Ghost Wars, Steve Coll writes that the CIA had contemplated providing direct support to the foreign mujahideen, but that the idea never moved beyond discussions.[468]" to "In his 2004 book Ghost Wars, Steve Coll writes that while the CIA had contemplated providing additional support to the foreign mujahideen beyond contributing funding, such as planning to incorporate radical anti-Soviet Islamic groups into an "international brigade," the idea never moved beyond discussions.[468]"
The reason for this change is that the source used here does not align with the conclusion and implication in the current sentence. Given its location in the section arguing against CIA involvement, use of the word "direct" implies that there was no involvement whatsoever, which is not what Coll argues. Here is the text of the passage that is being cited:
"From Pakistan arrived reports of a new group called the Islamic Salvation Foundation that had been formed in Peshawar to recruit and support Arab volunteers for the Afghan jihad, outside the control of any of the ISI-backed rebel parties. The network was operating offices and guesthouses along the Afghan frontier. Osama bin Laden, a wealthy young Saudi, was spreading large sums of money around Peshawar to help the new center expand. He was tapping into ISI’s guerrilla training camps on behalf of newly arrived Arab jihadists. The early reports of his activity that were passed along to the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center in this period suggested that bin Laden “certainly was not engaged in any fighting. He was not a warrior,” recalled Stanley Bedington, a senior analyst at the center from its beginning. Still, “When a man starts throwing around money like that, he comes to your notice."
When they first learned of efforts by bin Laden and allied Islamic proselytizers to increase the number of Arab volunteers fighting the Soviets, some of the most ardent cold warriors at Langley thought this program should be formally endorsed and expanded. The more committed anti-Soviet fighters, the better, they argued. As more and more Arabs arrived in Pakistan during 1985 and 1986, the CIA “examined ways to increase their participation, perhaps in the form of some sort of ‘international brigade,’ but nothing came of it,” Robert Gates recalled." Bisettes (talk) 04:03, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done for now: I don't read the passage that you've quoted from as establishing that Coll's argument is that the CIA provided some other kind of support. Rather, it seems to confirm what the current sentence in the article states, "that the CIA contemplated providing direct support", but ultimately did not. Is there another passage in the book that discusses other forms of support that the CIA provided? voorts (talk/contributions) 03:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
| This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change flag to the original and real one SonicXMasako2 (talk) 00:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
You need to specify which is the "original and real" flag, and provide reliable sources to support that change. Xan747 (talk) 02:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Should Al-Qaeda be capitalized? I believe it normally isn't. FinnSoThin (talk) 06:55, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
| This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I think there is a typo in the section titled "War on terror". Specifically, please change the text "The West was criticized for not being able to handle sl-Qaeda despite a decade of the war" to "The West was criticized for not being able to handle al-Qaeda despite a decade of the war" 98.208.46.5 (talk) 04:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Hyphenation Expert (talk) 04:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
