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Talk:Auto-brewery syndrome

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The sentence in the 'symptoms' section for which both citations 9 and 10 are provided has an 'unreliable medical source' tag. Which of these sources is being questioned as potentially unreliable. They both have potential problems Vice has a reputation for less-than-bulletproof journalistic standards, especially about scientific (and *especially* about medical (and **especially** about medical subjects to do with intoxicating substances)). Steven Gundry, while a doctor, has made claims referred to on his page as 'pseudoscientific'. Do both of these citations need to be reviewed by someone far more qualified by me, or removed and replaced with a more rigourous source? I'm not all that familiar with evidence requirements for medical pages. Thanks in advance Devgirl (talk) 20:13, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear LSGH and MartinezMD,

both of you reverted an anonymous edit by the same editor apparently.

I am not sure whether the anonymous editor does not have a point, maybe, especially when he suggests "... and the references provided are either misquoted or do not actually provide the data/evidence suggested."

See also the comment above.

Someone with some sort of expertise (which I unfortunately lack) should probably look into this and maybe merge some of the suggested changes with the existing content (unless they turn out to be completely unfunded).

best regards,

KaiKemmann (talk) 11:44, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS: LSGH, your comment "Unexplained content removal" is a bit mysterious to me as the editor did in fact explain his reasons at length in the edit summary ..

The anonymous editor makes the patently incorrect statement "largely because there is absolutely no evidence for this condition at all in the literature" when we have numerous citations, including reputable medical journals, saying otherwise. Are the sources robust? Certainly not as much as I'd like. However, rather than throw out the baby with the bathwater, specific areas of concern should be marked as needing citations or discussed here on the talk page. There may very well be areas that need correcting or removal. I can assist in the review process but would appreciate someone pointing out specific issues. MartinezMD (talk) 17:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some cases of treating ABS with FMT https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10189828/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32805128/ Bizzybody (talk) 23:00, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In 2003, a 13-year-old girl with short gut syndrome suddenly developed symptoms of intoxication after eating a high-carbohydrate meal. She had no access to alcohol any time the symptoms were present. Her small intestine was colonized by two organisms: C. glabrata and S. cerevisiae. She was treated with fluconazole and her symptoms resolved.^[1]

The citation provided (Geertinger, 1982) doesn't mention the 13-year-old girl. The Geertinger case study was published in 1982 but the 13-year-old girl case study supposedly occurred in 2003.

This citation was added in the as of 21:03, 26 April 2020 by an editor going by the name Naymaromo, who I believe also added the case studies section as a whole.

Looking for a source, I found 2006 case report which references the actual case study about the 13-year-old girl, though it should be noted it was published in 2001.^[2]

I will work on updating the citation and facts about the case study in the article.

All of this just because I was curious about what "high-carbohydrate meal" she was consuming, it turns out the case study does not specify, but does add that fructose-containing drinks also brought the onset of symptoms.

Thanks for reading,

Laelius Linguae (talk) 14 March 2024