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A fact from Cookhouse appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 April 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that their cookhouse(example pictured) was as important to loggers as their bunkhouse or tool shed?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk pageorWikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that cookhouses(example pictured) were a standard feature of remote work sites, as the working men (e.g. cowboys, loggers, miners, etc.) needed large amounts of food for the strenuous work they performed? [1][2]
ALT1:... that a cookhouse(example pictured) at a logging camp served up to five meals a day for the workers who could work upwards of twelve hours, and consume between 6,000 and 9,000 calories, a day? [3]
@Evrik:...New enough, long enough. Before completing review, suggest a clearer image and addressing high copyvio. I prefer the single hook but consider simplifying it and rewriting without using "e.g.", brackets and "etc". QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
...@Evrik: Thanks for clarifying the copyvio. Image is free and clear...it is a reconstructed cookhouse. The hook contains "cowboys" and "miners". I could not see this in the cited reference. Please clarify. A shorter, simplified hook might be easier to read. An interesting topic. FYI...if interested...I had a little read around and also found...the evolution of the cookhouse to the kitchen [4], cockroaches and cookhouses, [5], illnesses in military cook houses [6], [7]. In 1885, D. G. Crawford described an outbreak in a military containment where they had to use the cookhouse as a hospital [8]. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I added a reference about cowboys. The miners cite is less clear, so we can drop that word ... if you have any suggested hooks, they would be appreciated. I will add the references to the talk page and will look at it later. Thanks! --evrik(talk)02:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The article cookhouse is barely adequate and is composed of a number of sources strung together just because they use the word cookhouse rather than canteen, kitchen, mess, or restaurant. If the sources had used another descriptor, would they even be in the article? It might be stronger if it more closely defined its subject and went into more depth about it. It has potential but right now it could easily be merged into another article and nobody would miss it. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with Philafrenzy about the adequacy, and the stringing together of words. Logging camp already was featured on DYK, so I struck all of those hooks. The focus could be on North American logging camps, but the term is also used for other remote worksites, and for some residential uses. I think the DYK nomination could go ahead with the original hook. @Whispyhistory:, if you disagree can we get another opinion? --evrik(talk)05:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but it wasn't necessary to lay it out quite like that. I was just hoping for a better definition of how a cookhouse differs from those. I removed some of the material in the article that strays too far from the topic and only seems to be there because it uses the word cookhouse rather than, say, kitchen or restaurant etc. Can you expand the article please, concentrating on the communal preparation and consumption of food at remote work sites, particularly in the lumber and resource-extraction industries as that seems to be the core of it. There should be enough material in "Old Boy, Did You Get Enough of Pie? A Social History of Food in Logging Camps" in further reading. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think the key here are these two sentences"A cookhouse is a small building where cooking takes place. " and "The use of a cookhouse was not limited to resource extraction industries." It's not just a kitchen, but is name for a type of building. The article was copyedited by the GOCE. I have tried to reorganize it to address your concerns. --evrik(talk)19:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I still think it would benefit from a tighter focus of the type I have suggested and more depth rather than a survey of places where food is prepared or eaten separately from other places. But I am not the reviewer so I will leave it to Whispyhistory and others to take it from here. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, article has been amended and has room for expansion. Proposed hook with "miners" or any of the ALTs, with either image ok. I prefer ALT1. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:42, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The term for a "cookhouse" at an 18th century American house is a summer kitchen. I don't see a connection between the summer kitchen and a cookhouse. There really should be two separate articles. Thriley (talk) 01:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
...@Evrik: Thanks for clarifying the copyvio. Image is free and clear...it is a reconstructed cookhouse. The hook contains "cowboys" and "miners". I could not see this in the cited reference. Please clarify. A shorter, simplified hook might be easier to read. An interesting topic. FYI...if interested...I had a little read around and also found...the evolution of the cookhouse to the kitchen [4], cockroaches and cookhouses, [5], illnesses in military cook houses [6], [7]. In 1885, D. G. Crawford described an outbreak in a military containment where they had to use the cookhouse as a hospital [8]. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, article has been amended and has room for expansion. Proposed hook with "miners" or any of the ALTs, with either image ok. I prefer ALT1. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:42, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
