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Talk:David Giammarco

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This page reads as if written by the subject himself, as a commercial message.Grantsky (talk) 13:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article is written in a promotional tone at present. It uses peacock language WP:PEA and sounds as if it is written by Giammarco or his management team. I edited for neutral point of view, notability, advertising content and promotional tone. I added WP syntax for links, titles and citations. At present the article does not accord with WP guidelines or style. My edits were reversed without explanation. Having read the basic guidelines, if there are objections to my edits, please discuss here. Thank you. Spanglej (talk) 19:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted edits on this page re the above. Please discuss here if there is issue with WP guideliines or changes made. I have no wish for an edit war. It won't help anyone Spanglej (talk) 09:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given the manner in which the material was written, I think that's the right call. If anyone want to re-add text, they're free to so as long as it's properly verified using reliable sources - otherwise it will have to be taken out according to Wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 12:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Burrowsdcan. Regarding your edits of David Giammarco, which edits do you take issue with? If you see the talk page, you will see there is an ongoing difficulty with this article. It is essentially written as a promotion piece for Giammarco. Re WP:PEA, WP:WTW, WP:PROMOTION and many other WP guidelines, this type of blatant use of WP as a resume service is not ok. If you look at my edit summaries, you will see that many of the refs given were links to the same page or were IMDb biog links which are also not ok. I would appreciate your reversion back to my edits which were careful and noted in detail. If you think the syntax is choppy, please smooth it out. You will see that you have reverted WP code syntax, taken out links, italicisation and disambiguations. I hope the rationale behind the edits is clear to you. Best wishes Spanglej (talk) 06:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spannglej,

I'm a former TV Guide editor in Canada and a longtime media writer - I believe you mistakenly removed too many pieces of pertinent biographical data from the entry for a prominent individual from this country. I restored a plethora of online sourcing which had been deleted. There is much more that is not available online - as you know, major publications don't always have a complete online library from the archives. Lexus-Nexus is the most viable alternative to web sourcing. I, for one, wrote a feature on Mr. Giammarco back in 2004 which doesn't appear on the web. I believe the article is clear, concise, and lists important highlights as is. I don't quite understand how it is considered promotional when it simply lists achievements and biographical data that properly characterizes the many and varied aspects of his long career. If you feel extremely passionate about this issue, please do let me know and I will be happy to work with you. I have over 25 years editing experience in Canadian media. Thank you.

(Burrowsdcan (talk) 07:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]

This article will be brought down to a stub in a few days if the sourcing and referencing is not put in place properly. Spanglej's observations are correct. On Wikipedia, if a statement is made that a book is a best-seller, then a source has to be provided to verify the claim - something in the form of an industry trade publication such as Publishers Weekly, or a link to the New York Times bestseller's list. The mistake being made here is to provide links that the books and articles exist - but none of those links verify the statements about the information. Until the statements are verified, the article will have to be cut down. I've commented out the links for now because someone put a lot of work into formatting them - they're still there, but hidden. The information can still be seen in the history and retrieved from there if necessary. I'm have this article and talkpage on my watchlist and will respond to questions here. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]