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The dog anatomy article and the dog odor article conflict in fact. One says that dogs do not sweat. The other says this is a common misconception. They both need to be updated with a citation.

It is written that dogs do not sweat at all. This is wrong; dogs sweat through their pawpads.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.15.63 (talk) 07:06, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply] 

My dog sweats on her head, we can feel it & even smell it...Please explain.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.233.212.242 (talk) 22:56, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since I am a newb, I would like to learn from the experience of posting my first article. Please tell my why it needs cleanup. Thanks. --caroldermoid 23:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't place the cleanup tag, but it's usually not good Wiki-manners to place a tag without commenting it on the talk page, so IMO you'd be justified in removing it, or at least asking the poster to explain its addition. (JianLi was the poster who added the tag, you could post a question on his/her talk page about it). That having been said, I only skimmed the article but found that a) its tone is too informal, and b) it's too listy. First you should check to see if bad dog odor is an actual syndrome or issue. Obviously it happens, but is there evidence of publication of articles or books or papers discussing it? If not, then no matter how you word this article it's going to be more of an essay than an encyclopedia entry. The same way that if I wrote an article on the tendency of young women and girls to use decorative hair clips; if it isn't being discussed as an issue by a community, then even if I have references, it's really just an essay. Now if you do find evidence of its existence as an entity in the public mind (not just the individual causes, but 'stinky dogs' as a unit - because otherwise why should there be an article on it?), then you need to write the article in the form of scintillating, tight, less casual prose. The article can contain lists, but it should be mostly prose. Hope this helps!--Anchoress 03:44, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. I should have hung around and read more requests for feedback before I posted this. I do get it. It should probably be deleted. Not really encyclopedic knowledge. --caroldermoid 09:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed the clean-up tag as I responded to my requests for feedback answers and the tag was placed without comment. --caroldermoid 20:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

This was a hard one to categorize as there are not enough categories under dog health or under animal physiology. Animal husbandry only contains categories for agricultural animals. Any advice is welcome. --Caroldermoid (talk • contribs) 16:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing the association with 'skin care'...that category appears to be about human skin and cosmetics. 65.210.12.146 17:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How come there is no mention of mange, a skin condition that causes a strong odor, I believe? 66.108.4.183 (talk) 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Allen Roth[reply]

Mange in itself does not cause an odor, but a secondary skin infection (bacterialoryeast) would. --Joelmills (talk) 01:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's like saying that sweat doesn't cause body odor, but the bacteria that it brings about. As far as I know, mange does indeed produce a distinctive odor, whether it comes from the initial microorganisms, or the bacteria that feed on them. 66.108.4.183 (talk) 00:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC) Allen Roth[reply]

I could be wrong, but I've never noticed a particular odor in dogs with mange. Are you referring to demodectic or sarcoptic mange? --Joelmills (talk) 01:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dog pawpads should be likened unto fried cornmeal in general, if someone has a problem with 'cheese puff snacks.'

I added the Citation tag - It doesn't matter to me what people say a dog's pawpads smell like so long as they can cite a reliable source for it. otherwise it's just a personal opinion or original reserach and neither of those are allowed on Wikipedia since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. The nature of this article lends itself towards personal observations so we should be careful to include only that information that can be verified and sourced.LiPollis 21:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused by the debate on the difference between an article and an encyclopaedicv entry. I would also question some of the concepts in that debate: such as the need for an issue to be in the public mind in some way, or for it to be cited by someone with accreditation of some sort.

For me, the odour of animals/insects etc is something very real and as clearly definable a concept as any. The writer wishes to raise the standard of the article so besides the generalities I would suggest:

a. stronger associations with chemistry (pheremones, oils, etc)
b. ditto biology (utility and origination of smells/scents)
c. reasons for increased levels of scent manufacture
d. based on the above some infromation regarding cleaning removal of smells (urine, excrement incl scent/musk etc).
e. something on prevent of over secretion of oils etc i.e. prevention odf excess odour

I like the idea of splitting the article into Natural and Un-natural smells. The concept of an encyclopedia is not as restrictive as some seem to imagine. It is really just a repository of knowledge arranged in alphabetical order. Nowadays (past 19th century) there is the concept of verifiable external sourced but a huge quantity of articles here simply cite articles on blogs or other websites with little or no academic or peer reviewed research. Thanks for your article and good luck with it.
LookingGlass (talk) 08:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You may like to check this article out. It's about dogs' abilities to smell human scent. Perhaps it should be referenced somewhere else here. Scroll down the page to the FBI research on dogs ability to detect scent left by people after handling bombs on the remains of the bombs after they were detonated or burned for 2 minutes in petrol! http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/july2004/research/2004_03_research03.htm Minimum 78% success. Now THAT'S a sense of smell! LookingGlass (talk) 08:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any study on the differences in order between breeds? I have a JRT mix with practically no scent and some sort of Dalmation/Beagle mix(slightly shorter than the JRTx) with a heavy musk. I'd add wording to that effect, but I'm pretty sure that pets count as OR. BioTube (talk) 04:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

really? are they supernatural? i think the word choice here is a bit unrealistic. Odors caused by parasites, diseases or other non-endemic causes are genuine, but hardly unnatural. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.18.211 (talk) 03:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We try not to have american versus English spelling wars here on wikipedia. Please see WP:COFAQ#ENGLISH for more information on the subject. Since the article began using the American spelling, and the title uses it, making a wholesale changeover to British spelling makes no sense and accomplishes nothing. I know there are some editors who make it their life's purpose to enforce their view on the matter but I don't think that's what's going on here. I think an editor was just trying to be helpful. I would ask that editor to help us here in other ways by seeking out some references for any statements of fact that look as if they could use the support with a citation from an authority and to add new material they feel is pertinent. Thanks!LiPollis (talk) 20:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there; myself as well as two other students have written up a short article portion discussing odor and its relation with nutrition, and I was wondering how you felt about us adding it on to your 'dog odor' page? We could work together to make it flow with the information you already have Laurajones11 (talk) 02:35, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Please feel free to edit this page as you feel appropriate, bearing in mind that, for any health-related article (including animal health) you must use reliable, third-party, published secondary sources, such as reputable medical journals, or recognized standard textbooks; see WP:MEDRS for further information. Also keep in mind the primary topic of the article, and avoid adding information that is not directly relevant. Advice about staying on-topic can be found here: WP:COATRACK. Happy editing! DferDaisy (talk) 18:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]