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To-do list for Electric battery: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2023-12-07
It would be good to include this reference and accordingly update C-rate chapter. Please, if somebody thinks that this comment should go somewhere else, do so and replace it. The reference is: http://www.starkpower.com/highratedischarge.html. The description of C-rate seams confusing. It doesn't clearly state that for example at 2C discharge rate the battery would hold two times less.
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This article has been moved from Battery (electricity)toElectric Battery and back and back again. Just Battery and not Electric Battery is the most common name. Constant314 (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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For past discussions about this article, see the archives listed in the boxes above. Items that have not been active for a year or more have now been archived. --Wtshymanski (talk) 03:33, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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change ((Other uses|Battery)) to ((Other uses|Battery (disambiguation)((!))Battery))
No mention of the nickel-iron battery in the section? Someone brought it up in archived discussion but no one answered. MartinezMD (talk) 17:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The ingestion section should mention that the more than 3V from common lithium cells is enough to generate dangerous chemical reactions in the digestive system. The 1.5V of other cells mostly doesn't do that. Gah4 (talk) 01:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Mercury-Containing and Rechargeable Battery Management Act dead link active working link https://aussiebattery.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Mercury-Containing-and-Rechargeable-Battery-Management-Act.pdf Gandbatts (talk) 06:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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You had an add saying you need help with more about the history of the battery and I just recently watched an in depth documentary of this subject. I do not know if age is required but mine is twenty five. 24.223.97.191 (talk) 15:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I added Citation that was requered in Comparison section and i removed the tag if there is any problem with sources we can discuss it Mina Farage (talk) 12:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I would just like to add, that: The dry cell battery was invented by a Danish industrialist, Frederik Louis Wilhelm Hellesen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Hellesen), in 1887. Parts of the company was later bought by Duracell, in 1986 (https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellesens). Razid1987 (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 September 2022 and 8 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): MichaelNhy (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by MichaelNhy (talk) 23:56, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 18:07, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Electric battery → Battery (electric) – It is better! And see discussion above. 121.98.204.148 (talk) 22:50, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
READ THIS Talk:Electric_battery#Where_is_the_discussion_for_moving_this_to_"Electric_Battery"?. 121.98.204.148 (talk) 02:08, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Sorry I missed this until after the close... For those of you who opposed the RM, especially those citing NATURAL, I wonder if you could explain your position because I really don't get it. I mean, WP:NATURAL starts with this statement: "Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, ..." And also: "However, do not use obscure or made-up names." I recognize that "electric battery" isn't made-up, but how is it not obscure?
I mean, I don't see a single cited reliable source for this term. I've looked, and I can't find any. The ngrams results for "electric battery" are practically zilch. The latest reference I can find for "electric battery" at the NY Times archives is from 1960. This seems to be exactly the obscure type of name (certainly not a name that this subject is "also commonly called in English reliable sources") that NATURAL says to not use as a title, so I'm really perplexed by all the oppositions here. So, I will tag each of you now. @Constant314:, @Old Naval Rooftops:, @Ortizesp:, @In ictu oculi:, @BarrelProof:, @VQuakr:.
And while I agree with Srleffler that Battery (electric) is not NATURAL, parenthetically-disambiguated titles are not supposed to be natural. That's the point. That is, the natural part is the name without the disambiguating descriptor. In this case that's "battery" which is of course perfectly natural. So pointing out the proposed parenthetically-disambiguated title is not natural is not really an argument against it. Otherwise, we wouldn't have any parenthetically-disambiguated titles.
I know other editors like Crouch, Swale and Amakuru are also disappointed in the outcome here, and I'm sure others would be as well, if they saw this. So if you could explain a bit further your interpretation of NATURAL and why you think this current title qualifies, that would be much appreciated. Alternatively, if you now realize it actually does not meet the NATURAL definition, and there are enough of you, perhaps we can start another RM? In any case, thank you! --В²C ☎ 07:50, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I also wanted to address VQuakr's argument that "electric battery" being commonly used is "not relevant" because WP:UCRN is only concerned with it being recognizable. Well, that's not what it says. UCRN literally states Wikipedia "generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria" and WP:RECOGNIZABILITY is only one of those five criteria. So I don't see how a title being recognizable is sufficient basis to use it, especially not per NATURAL which explicitly guides against use of names that are not commonly used. --В²C ☎ 08:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
UCRN literally states Wikipedia "generally prefers the name that is most commonly used...": yes, generally. That's the key word here. The common name is battery; we all agree on that. But since the common name is ambiguous, we have to arrive at a consensus on the best way to disambiguate. Parenthetical disambiguation is a last-resort fallback; so electric battery, which adequately meets all 5 criteria, is the best title that has been proposed. Extending your question above a bit: no discussion on sourcing would change my mind because I care not one whit how much electric battery as been used in RS. It's immediately recognizable to any English-speaker, which along with the other 4 criteria is what we actually care about or should care about. What could change my mind is if someone proposed an alternative title and explained why it better met the 5 title criteria. VQuakr (talk) 09:47, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
VQuakr, what you and I think doesn't matter. Community WP:CONSENSUS speaks through our titles. Hit SPECIAL:RANDOM repeatedly. See how long it takes you to find even one example of a title for its subject that doesn't fall into one of these categories:
I'll wait. --В²C ☎ 15:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]