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Some of the sources on this page do not work and are outdated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OrionArisen (talk • contribs) 07:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article refers to "Cow Semen." Shouldn't that be "Bull Semen" as cows are female?
204.65.0.24 17:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)stutennis[reply]
Is anyone else as creeped out as I am by "Bob?" This guy always has that big stupid grin on his face. And Bob's wife, what's with her?
Can we cite a source? Or is this a product of the rumor mill? "Psst, Enzyte contains Tribulus terrestris. Pass it on!"
I like Bob. Apparently so does Mrs. Bob. -- Beland 06:20, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The ingredients seem to listed in a sidebar on the UsaToday article.
-- Nsfmc 20:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A source citation for ingredients is easy to find: the product label. It is reproduced by numerous sites, for example, http://www.myvitanet.com/en60tabeprnu.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.25.146 (talk) 11:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See section, Zinc, near bottom Talk section. Is it time to put that in the main article?Mydogtrouble (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Zinc moved to main article. Mydogtrouble (talk) 19:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Many citations of physiological effects of the herbal components, on the other Wikipedia articles about them, are references to pseudoscientific books, and less evidence than may be implied is actually available. Not to mention, the quantities of herbs are much, much smaller than the concentrations used to determine any effects whatever in valid scientific studies.
Mydogtrouble (talk) 17:42, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a cite for Some medical professionals in fact advise against taking Enzyte, saying that it can lead to damage? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 04:55, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
--- There are health-risk citations for an unconfirmed ingredient, yohimbe extract. http://www.cljhealth.com/enzyte-ingredients.htm which is contradicted by (revised formula?) http://www.orderenzyte.com/enzyte_formula.html? ss=e663f66285dd3cd006d03d524d0a7479 4.230.102.202 09:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone have any clue as to who the actor who plays Smiling Bob is? I have searched the net ever since he first appeared and it is like only the character exists and not the actor.
While I do see the similarities between the two, I do not believe Diedrich plays him.
I think that his name should be changed to 'Boner Bob' since that is really what he is smiling about. Beowulf7120 18:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What I want to know is has anyone noticed the similarity between "Smilin' Bob" and J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, the figurehead of the Church of the SubGenius. I can only imagine this was, on some level, intentional, the resemblance is so striking. And then there's the name. But there's no mention of the Enzyte ads in the articles on J. R. "Bob" Dobbs or the Church of the SubGenius, nor is there any mention of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs in the article on Enzyte. BassBaritone 05:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
¶ I have found several internet notes that say that "Smiling Bob" is/was actor (or model) John Larson ... who went missing when his boat capsized in Martinique in 2008 (and no other info on him). But at least one person (anonymous) has posted numerous denials of the Larson identification and I have not found a serious newsource on the identity of the actor.Sussmanbern (talk) 22:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
suffragium n. -i : 1. a voting tablet, a vote; the right to vote, franchise; in gen. judgment; approval, support.
suffragor dep. -ari : 1. to vote for; to favor, approve, support.
suffugium n. -i : 1. a shelter, place of refuge.
..
I pulled these from a latin dictionary after searching for the suff- stem. "Suffragium," the first part of "suffragium asotas," according to this, does not refer to a place of shelter or refuge, but rather the idea of the vote, the ability or offering of support to something.
As for "asotas," it doesn't translate into anything remotely close to dissipated. Rather, "asotas" refers to the "sensualist" or the "libertine."
So, that being said, a more proper translation would seem to be "support for the sensualist," or, in simpler English, "yay for people who like sex."
I'm not so much saying Harvard-Guy is wrong so much as I think Harvard-Guy was making a joke at the expense of people who buy into Enzyte BS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Studio Ghibli (talk • contribs) .
Hellifiknow. I haven't taken Latin in ages. All I know is that Harvard-Guy is wrong to say it translates as "refuge for the dissipated." I'd be willing to guess that whoever constructed the phrase had an awful grasp of latin as well though. --Studio Ghibli 17:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, you're saying that I need to find a published source that lists not only the current published translation as wrong, but also the correct translation? It's not so much an issue of interpretation. It's verifiabile through any Latin dictionary. Because I was unsure of whether or not -I- was correct, I ran the two words past some friends of mine, and the three of them all came up with what I had.
... suppose I can do just that, then. Cite an online dictionary as my source...
All right.
It took some digging--and a little confusion, as there were some translation issues..
First, according to this website-
http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe
-which is linked off of-
http://archives.nd.edu/latgramm.htm
-which is hosted at the University of Notre Dame, the two words in question translate as follow:
http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?suffragium
suffragium, suffragi(i) N N [XXXCX] vote; judgement; applause;
http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?asotus
asotus, asoti N M [XXXEO] uncommon debaucher, dissolute man;
asotus, asota, asotum ADJ [XXXDO] lesser debauched, dissipated, profligate;
Now, with the first word, there's no problem. The second word, though--'asotus.'
To the average English-speaker, the idea of something being dissipated is, like, a sort of evaporation or something, that it breaks up and scatters and becomes nothing. So, technically, it -probably- translates straight as 'vote dissolute,' as there's no conjugation attempted.
It is, however, not "refuge."
http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?suffugium
suffugium, suffugi(i) N N [XXXCX] shelter; place of refuge;
Obviously, 'suffugium' and 'suffragium' are different words.
Next, there was my issue with the word "dissipated." My original reading of dissipated was what I described earlier--the idea of something breaking up and scattering and becoming nothing. However, this is only one of its definitions. According to Webster's Online Dictionary (http://webster.com/dictionary/dissipated), it also translates as-
2 : to be extravagant or dissolute in the pursuit of pleasure;
I never realized this the first time because I was using a different dictionary. My original dictionary translated it straight to 'libertine' or 'sensualist.' So, looking up the word 'dissoulute'-
Main Entry: dis·so·lute Pronunciation: 'di-s&-"lüt, -l&t Function: adjective Etymology: Latin dissolutus, from past participle of dissolvere to loosen, dissolve
- dis·so·lute·ly adverb - dis·so·lute·ness noun
-which is kind of a 'sensualist' or 'libertine,' so the difference in the two dictionaries is probably just a manner of interpretation.
Regardless, though.
It does not say 'refuge for the dissipated.' We knew that from the beginning, as the Harvard-type made allowances for poor grammar (a lack of conjugation, probably). However, moving a step forward from that, I've also verified through a Notre Dame latin dictionary that the word 'refuge' is not even present. Instead, it's 'suffragium,' which refers to a vote or support for something.
As for 'dissipated,' having taken the time to understand its true meaning, I still feel another word should be used in its place, if only because most people (I think) don't read 'dissipated' as 'lacking restraint.'
'Suffragium asotas' probably does not translate as 'support for the dissolute/sensualist/libertine/sex fiend,' as both words are still in their.. I believe it's nominative?.. form. However, being that I've verified 'suffragium' means 'vote/support' and 'asotas' means 'dissolute/sensualist,' I can make a conjecture--the same conjecture Harvard-type made--that it's a poorly constructed phrase that tries to say 'support for the sensualist.'
So, moving back to the veeeeery beginning-
If the issue is verifiability over truth, I've provided the links to verify the translation. It can be verified. The current translation can be verified as incorrect. The translation I've provided can be provided as correct (taking into account the poor grammar of the original phrase).
.. it's ten minutes later. I want to point out something I missed the first time over.
Harvard-type doesn't refer to 'suffragium asotas' as 'refuge for the dissipated.' Rather, he suggests that the Enzyte-makers -probably- meant 'suffugium asotis,' which is conjugated, which means 'refuge for the dissipated.' That phrase, however, is not what's on the bottle. 'Suffragium asotas' is--and 'suffragium' means 'support/vote' and 'asotas' means 'dissipate/dissolute/libertine.'
No hard feelings, either. Had fun doing this. :p
On a different note, I found another wacky translation.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/p/patent_medicine
The fellow of this website claims the phrase refers to "the lecher's helper," and he cites the same USA Today article. I'd go out on a limb he noticed the same thing I did about the translation issue--and when he discovered their meaning, simply embellished it a little bit. Lecher, sensualist. Helper, support. Tomato, tomahto!
Well, that, or he took the first definition of asotus, the noun-form-
asotus, asoti N M [XXXEO] uncommon debaucher, dissolute man;
-and used that for his translation. ;D
We could always cite that one as well. Both what Harvard-type says and what this fellow says.
Also, thanks for clarifying the rules for me. I'm looking over them again right now--though it is one in the morning, so it'll probably be more of a browse. "No original research" rule also.. maybe.. being violated as well. I'm not sure if me plugging a word into a dictionary at Notre Dame constitutes research.
I read that Wiki doesn't mind contributions like I originally did as long as it's from "experts" and the information is "verifiable." While I'm not an expert (only two years of latin, and I'm rusty), the information still is verifiable. I certainly won't press for an update of the entry saying that it translates as "support for the libertine," as that would be my personal theory--and Wiki's down on that. I still would like to see some clarification provided on the original phrase though.
Anyway, talk to you soon.
--Studio Ghibli 05:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ergh. I was supposed to go to bed, but curiosity caught me and I decided to look up your information.
Congratulations! You're a few hours drive from me!
That having been announced, I wanted to say I noticed that you're listed as a latin-user, and I feel a little.. not so much foolish but.. some kind of word which describes this blanket-over-a-duck-over-my-head feeling.
I also noticed the big star. Congrats.
All that having been noticed, this'll probably either be my second-to-last or last post on the matter, as it's readily apparent that, while I might think a certain way, I'm pretty sure you have things under control. --Studio Ghibli 06:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Studio Ghibli 04:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
At this point, it's anybody's guess. :p --Studio Ghibli 17:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What's that tune in the enzyte commercials. The whistled one. It's catchy. I like it. It's also used on a heineken radio commercial.
The music is from an online production music library. Scola 09:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to this website, voiceover has been done for the commercials by David Kaye, professional announcer. http://www.davidkaye.com/index.iml?mdl=commercial_clients.mdl 24.136.152.144 (talk) 19:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that one reason that the enzyte commercials seem to be so successful is that the commercials often follow the same formula as those for legitimate drug commercials. This way they are able to imply that Enzyte is a legitimate drug without specifically making those claims. Maybe someone with a background in studying advertising can explore this issue. --Googleyed 04:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
By catagorizing the article as a "Stub."
--24.205.55.219 06:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Lol (Ron (talk) 12:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]
The question I have about Enzyte has been answered nowhere: is it supposed to help you get an erection, or make your penis larger? (Either way, the commercials are annoying.) -Branddobbe 07:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Enzyte is suppose to be an enhancer. And from the way its marketed, most likely to increase your penis size and/or get an erection. However it doesnt work so its suppose to just take your money.
It is possible that the maker deliberately couches the advertising in vague or confusing terms such that an erection may be termed as an "enlargement." Mydogtrouble (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am altering the words in the first paragraph "is a euphemism" to "suggests is a euphemism" because of the vagueness of the claims. Mydogtrouble (talk) 19:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If wording were a little different for the article (like the first phrase "Enzyte is a scam"), as the wording does seem a bit harsh. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.205.70.254 (talk) 19:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]
WOW... I can't believe that the opening paragraph hasn't been reverted by now. I don't know if it was written by a "dissatisfied customer" or what, but it's POV to say the least. I went back and found an earlier version of the opening, which I think is a lot more appropriate. BambinoPrime 14:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Uhhh - it IS a scam. Just like 99.9% of everything else the world tries to shove down our throats. Hey, but if you THINK it works then fine. Waste your money. The criminal CEO of this joke drug wont mind. And, no, I have never taken it. I have, however, gotten it down to the first 3 notes of that absurd song before I nail the mute button on the remote! Not bad. Well, thats MY opinion. Your mileage may vary. Head on, apply directly to the stupidity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MediaPlex (talk • contribs) 15:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have problems with the word "naive" being used in the article. I believe this is a non-neutral term that doesn't belong in this article. --Free4all76 14:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Free4all76 (talk • contribs)
This article was nominated for speedy deletion. The nomination has been rejected on the grounds that there are plenty of sources. The article has been cleaned up with regards to neutrality and it has been flagged. It does need sourcing as part of a general cleanup. Capitalistroadster 06:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While this article definitely still needs a lot of work, I've just cleaned it up significantly. Several sections were wordy, redundant, or just out of place. A few opinionated claims were removed or reworded. Missing ingredients from the product were also added. While my changes don't make the article perfect, it's much better than it was, and is less-needy of an overhaul at this time. Thus, please try to carry these improvements forward with any further edits, rather than just blindly reverting to the last version. It was nearly unreadable. 97.82.247.200 14:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC) -kelaniz[reply]
I reverted this edit: ""12:05, August 21, 2007 24.172.132.238"". User 24.172.132.238 has made only one edit, blanking out most of this article and replacing the blanked out parts with pro-Enzyte comments. Wtbe7560 20:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone (anywhere, not necessarily FDA-rigorously) shown or even sort of shown that anything in Enzyte inhibits the PDE-5 enzyme, which is how to (approved) E.D. drugs works? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.9.143.45 (talk) 22:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?pagetitle=enzyte --Achim (talk) 22:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ain't smilin' so much today. I've seen various internet claims that the actor's name is John Larson, but not a one of them looks like a usable source. Anyone have anything reliable on this? P.S. I used Enzyte as a fertilizer for my cornfield, and lemme tell ya, them stalks grew mighty tall. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
129.109.0.68 (talk) 21:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)took 5 minutes http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/existential-limbo-being-successful-commercial-actor-144007129.109.0.68 (talk) 21:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Zinc is an ingredient in Enzyte. "Some men who have low zinc levels in their body have had success using zinc supplements to treat erection problems."-see: http://www.med.nyu.edu/healthwise/article.html?hwid=hw112768 Anecdotal evidence suggests the effect of returning low zinc levels to those recommended will have a temporary effect on increasing seminal fluid, such increase causing a temporary increase in erections. After zinc levels return to those recommended normal levels, the effect may disappear. (Now you know ;) Mydogtrouble (talk) 20:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/index.php?mode2=detail&origin=ibids_references&therow=415152 This indicates that bioavailability of zinc from zinc oxide is significant in human tests.Mydogtrouble (talk) 18:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
30 mg tablets of zinc gluconate, from a brand sold in major grocery and drugstore chains, are available wholesale at approximately 3.3 cents per tablet. Enzyte has been advertised at a price of $1 per tablet.Mydogtrouble (talk) 19:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Boston Globe reports sale of Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals to investment group (Pristine Bay LLC) led by Charles Kubicki Sr., developer.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090107/BIZ01/901080308
Mydogtrouble (talk) 15:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Mydogtrouble (talk) 15:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Kubicki acquainted with the firm , because was one of four people appointed by Senior U.S. District Judge Arthur Spiegel to oversee its operations. With attorney Richard Nelson to ensure it wasn’t hiding assets or engaging in deceptive marketing. See:
Mydogtrouble (talk) 16:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Pristine Bay receives tax break from local officials. http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090325/NEWS0108/303250061/-1/today Mydogtrouble (talk) 17:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The site of its manufacture is unclear. Kubicki stated it was made elsewhere than Cincinnati, but not where. Is that relevant? I think so. 24.40.165.154 (talk) 22:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article is replete with repetition. Rich Farmbrough, 01:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
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Since I Am Calling Her Smiling Betty,Can You Identify Who Played Her,To Go Along With Smiling Bob Being Played By Andrew Olcott?Jackjohnson52183 (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)jackjohnson52183[reply]