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The Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council is not run by the State of Alaska. It is a multi-agency Trustee Council with representatives from the Alaska Dept of Law, Alaska Dept of Fish and Game, the Alaska Dept of Environmental Conservation, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin, the US Dept of Agriculture, and, the US Dept of the Interior. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobcat918 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Exxon Valdez was the name of a ship. Susan Mason
What does "maintaint the ship's Raycas radar off" mean? --the Epopt 22:51 Mar 26, 2003 (UTC)
"Journalist Greg Palast has argued that the accident was due to a corporate decision not to maintain the ship's Raycas radar in order to save money. Palast contends that the ship had been running without radar for at least a year."
Nobody has bothered to rebut this. It is not very credible, no other investigation showed this. KAM 13:37, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Something about socioeconomic impact. Material include the effects on the lives of the people involved. The mayor of Cordova, a fishing town, for example, committed suicide after his town failed to revitalize after years of waiting for settlement of punitive damaged from Exxon. In his note, he requested that his ashes be scattered on Bligh Reef, where the oil tanker wrecked. Also, the Markets for Alaskan seafood product shifted in 1989 when product became unavailable. Many never shifted back, resulting in many bankruptsies among fishermen. Mention of this might be good. Some think that Exxon will pay their punitive damages fine in 2006, so it would be nice to get this article in good shape soon, I think. Wadsworth 15:13, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
The section "The Great Oil Spill" simply repeats information, and the section "Long-Term Monitoring" provides no information, simply asking questions. This article needs to be cleaned up more than the Alaska shoreline it describes! :) appzter 06:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
THIS IS THE MOST WASTE OF TIME THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD the Exxon Valdez. The only differences are that this article drops some sentences.
i dont know why someone, instead of editing the error, wrote "this is all lies, lol --at the top it says this happened on march 24." because it said in the "cleanup measures" section that it happened on the 28th.(CrustacheAdan 05:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC))
Shouldn't barrels be used, rather than gallons? Oil is typically measured by the barrel(At least in the US). 204.9.144.52 14:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
F.Y.I. - The amount of oil in barrels was 240,001. [taken from http://www.marinergroup.com/oil-spill-history.htm]
- Wes
referring to it in gallons gives a bigger number, making it look worse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.131.186.161 (talk) 01:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
That was a wonderful article! I would love to know all about it!!
However, later measurements of the amount of seawater in the fluid pumped from the tanks indicate that this figure is certainly too small. A conservative estimate is that 30 million gallons (110,000 m³) of oil spilled. As with the article at Exxon Valdez this information is not verifiable and web page cited is ad for a book. KAM 23:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
The State of Alaska issued two separate reports on the oil spill. Both reports stated that the amount of oil spilled was 10.8 mg. Therefore it is accurate to say that the State of Alaska reported that the amount spilled is 10.8 mg. This is also true of the National Transpiration Safety Board and the US Coast Guard. Therefore it is also accurate to say that the Coast Guard and the NTSB reported that 10.8 mg was spilled. No report by Exxon is referenced in this article. To call 10.8 mb “Exxon's estimate” is misleading.
The two reference given in the article don’t support each other, the web site is contradicted by the newspaper article as the newspaper says pieces of the puzzle are missing, referring to the ballast water returned to Valdez, which is the only evidence given in the web site. Also there is no relationship between the amount of water carried by tankers in ballast and the amount of water in the cargo lightered from the EV. Perhaps the article should say that fisherman groups and Defenders of the Wilderness believe or suspect that more was spilled but has never been verified. KAM 18:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
What is the justification of removing information from official reports? Sources have been provided. The USCG, NTSB and the EPA are the leading goverment organization on this subject. KAM 14:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The issue here is quality of sources. USCG, NTSB, Alaska EPA and others that report 10.8 meet Wikipedia standards for sources namely: "Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Wikipedia:Verifiability. However the soundtruth web site does not meet Wikipedia standards for a good source. It appears to be an ad (which likely violates Wikipedia policy) for a book and is "self-published". The author is also not an expert in maritime matters, the views expressed are a minority view and the newspaper article contradicts the web site . Wikipedia's policy is here: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view check "Undue weight" which says in part If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents; "If a viewpoint is held by an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority, it does not belong in Wikipedia (except perhaps in some ancillary article) regardless of whether it is true or not; and regardless of whether you can prove it or not." The adherents to this viewpoint are Ott (who has a book to sell), and some anecdotal evidence. I think that is an extremely small minority and therefore does not belong in this article.I don't think Ott's website is a suitable source. Anyone else? KAM 00:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
tell me morre about this!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkstwo (talk • contribs) 22:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's right to say that the spill was "the worst environmental disaster at sea." a) "worst" is a relative measure. b) The Exxon Valdez spill is not even in the top 50 largest oil spills. Markmichaelh 02:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
"The Exxon Valdez oil spill was one of the most devastating environmental disasters ever to occur at sea. The spill not only affected animals, but it affected plants and many environmentalists" This is certainly true, but doesn't it sound a bit odd to group environmentalists with plants and animals in this fashion? I'll try to rephrase it/Marxmax 15:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone find/edit/cite websites that state the costs of clean-up outside of Exxon? It mentions a private company using disperants. There was also a trial burn, swimmers used. All of that can't be from Exxon, can it?
Also, should inflation costs from 1989 to 2007 be there? (They're on the page already) Disinclination 15:52, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I added a brief section on the types of costs imposed by the spill, and external link to an article that discusses the costs in more detail--Energyadonis 11:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
First sentence of this paragraph is incomplete『...including a clause prohibiting vessels that had caused oil spills of more than 1 million US gallons (3,800 m³). 』- what are the vessels prohibited from? The TAPS trade.
Also, in the LEGAL BATTLES section, the "Known Drunk" wasn't captaining the ship (despite media images). The helmsman was the "known drunk".
Rarely does an incident boil down to just one person. Though the captain was known to have consumed alcohol and had a history of alcohol troubles, it is an oversimplification to say a drunken captain ran the ship aground.
-The helmsman had a poor history regarding his abilities and sobriety but moved throughout the industry from vessel to vessel.
-The 3rd mate was supposed to be relieved by the 2nd mate (the navigation officer on a merchant vessel) prior to the grounding but opted to let him continue sleeping in repayment of a favor. The captain did not know of this.
-The vessel's sail time was moved ahead several hours, something the captain found out about only when he returned to the ship.
-There was a great deal of pressure on the Coast Guard to keep the shipping lanes open, despite the ice intrusion concerns of many tanker captains.
-The cleanup gear was buried under several feet of snow, slowing the response.
-The media friendly beach-washing did more harm than good.
Why isn't any of this in the article? Because Exxon had their scapegoat, the governments didn't want to get any more blame than necessary, and the area's infrastructure wasn't equipped to deal with the crisis at hand. So many people showed up in Valdez that families were renting out their houses to response workers while they slept in tents in their own yards! Consequently, many, many things fell through the cracks. Given the political nature of the incident, you can be sure that every agency picked through their reports very well before releasing them. The City of Valdez can hardly claim innocence - the residents profited mightily from oil industry and from the spill. Someday, when the legal issues are behind everyone, the truth will come out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.242.30.154 (talk) 23:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The article says: "However, some groups such as Defenders of Wildlife believe that the spill was much larger than reported, that about 30 million gallons [6][7] spilled into the ocean, pointing out that oil reclaimed from the damaged tanker (which was the basis for Exxon's calculations) was later discovered to have a large amount of seawater in it[8]"
None of the sources sited show Defenders of Wildlife believes that about 30 million gallons was spilled. They do not point out that the oil reclaimed had water in it. They do not show that this was the basis for Exxon's calculations. As is discussed above in the section Amount Spilled, and Amount spilled revisited the site listed appearers to me to be a book ad. I suggest making a separate page, perhaps about Ott as it is a very small minority who believe this. KAM 17:01, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I have started fixing the reference tags in this article I will finish the job in the next couple of hours Ferdie33 05:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Exxon recovered a significant portion of clean-up and legal expenses through insurance claims[12] and tax deductions for the loss of the Valdez.[13]
Tax deduction for the loss of the Valdez? They didn't lose it, its not a matter of "Hey, where did the Valdez go?" They ran it up on some rocks, towed it to a dock, patched it up and are still using it. The only line entry for the 1989 finances that mentions the Exxon Valdez is one referenced as the "Valdez provision" which is described in later text as money being set aside ($1.68billion) from the budget to meet any further incuring costs due to legal matters surrounding the spill. I have seen no evidence within the reference material to support the claim that they recieved a tax benifit for running the valdez on the rocks. Pissedpat 17:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I did some work on what seemed to be the most problematic sections of this article. First, the debate over the "amount spilled" section has gone on long enough. The factual dispute has been sufficiently incorporated into the article text. I could find no citation for the "30 million gallons" statistic (as noted above), but I did find a somewhat credible estimate of 25 million gallons. As this is only the opinion of one surveyor against a massive consensus for the "11 million" statistic, I wonder if the balance is still appropriate. I also removed a citation that, as others have commented, linked to a page that was basically an ad for somebody's self-published book. I believe that this section incorporates what factual dispute exists into the text, so I've removed the factual dispute and citation/verify tags. They no longer apply -- all information is factual, verified and cited as far as I can tell.
The debate over the number is overblown anyway, as 11 million gallons is still a lot of oil, and the most salient aspects of the spill are those that pertain to its impact on the Sound and surrounding areas -- not whatever inconceivably huge number we assign to it.
The "Legal battles" (now "Litigation") section is far from perfect, but it's better now. The latter half of the section had metastacized into what amounted to an impromptu "trivia" section -- a dubious (at times incomprehensible) one at that. I removed the less important trivia and incorporated significant points into the text of the article. I also corrected and cited an important quote about the "drunk" piloting the ship. This section could still use some work/fleshing out, but hopefully I've gotten things going in the right direction. TPIRman 05:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
In 1994, in the case of Baker vs. Exxon, an Anchorage jury awarded $287 million for actual damages and $5 billion for punitive damages. The punitive damages amount was based on a single year's profit by Exxon at that time.
Exxon appealed again, sending the case back to court to be considered in regard to a recent Supreme Court ruling in a similar case, which caused Judge Holland to increase the punitive damages to $4.5 billion, plus interest.
it says the amount was increased to a lower number, is that a typo? Perhaps it should be re worded that he lowered the amount but then tacked on interest there by increasing it, because who is to say the amount of interest would push that over 5 billion$ i am no math whiz so please correct me if i am wrong
Why is Exxon's 2006 profit mentioned here? That is figure is far removed from the company's circumstances the year of the spill, and as such adds nothing to the article, except to make one less likely to feel sorry for the company. As such, it's inserted in a fashion that makes the article more biased, and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.45.202 (talk) 02:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I've updated the article to include the results of Exxon v. Baker; the opinion linked to is just the slip opinion and as such is not a full citation yet. Just a note that the opinion number and a more permanent URL need to be found. Patrick O'Leary (talk) 14:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I hope I am editing correctly, anyway, at [1]they mention people getting cancer and other really nasty thing from cleaning up the spill. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 123.3.51.45 (talk) 08:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
Here is a pdf file [2]about social factors, (vol 2 only) and here [3]is a book review of "Nature's State". One of the themes of the book is that part of the reason that the spill had such an impact on the American public is because "Alaska has been situated as a sublime wilderness area in the nation's spatial imagination." KAM 13:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Who was right?
The environmentalists are right. Exxon spilled 11 million gallons of oil. Exxon only cleaned the surface of the beaches. They also thought that the dead animals didn’t matter. They thought they could get away with destroying the environment in Prince William Sound. The oil leak affected animals throughout Prince William Sound. Exxon tried to clean it up but once the beaches looked clean pulled out, leaving the beach under the rocks covered in oil. The environmentalists just put their hands in the beach, and when they pulled their hands out they were covered oil. Exxon said they were treated. But all they did was clean up the tops of the beaches. They were trying to cover up one of the largest oil spills in the world. Their captain was also drunk when they hit the reef. Exxon tried to clean it up and spent a lot of money.
They spent two billion dollars trying to clean it up. But all Exxon cared about when they were doing this was their reputation.
They only cared that people thought they cared about the environment. That is why the environmentalists are right.
I believe that if there was a spill like this near Antarctica then the fragile ecosystem could be severely damaged and many species could become instinct.
We must preserve the last peace zone on our earth!
Are the reports true that Exxon employees have been editing this page in order to skew the data on the environmental effects of the oil spill and to remove paragraphs that indicate wrongdoing by Exxon? Is it something that should be discussed on this page? Maybe an admin could comment on the policy on corporate edits. Mardiste 15:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Thousands of animals died immediately; the best estimates include 250,000–500,000 seabirds, 2,800–5,000 sea otters, approximately 12 river otters, 300 harbour seals, 250 bald eagles, and 22 orcas, as well as the destruction of billions of salmon and herring eggs.
^ How the hell could an ocean oil tanker spill kill 250 bald eagles? Are they even in the same range? Klosterdev 01:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
-- Eagles fish for salmon, if they pull a salmon out of an oil slick they eat oil. The 250 dead would be a reference to how many dead eagles were found during the cleanup. Pissedpat 17:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Who measures oil (or any liquid) in millimeters? And who says "millions of milli-anything?" I mean, shouldn't you convert to terameters or something larger? Just hoping to spark a discussion. - Gr0ff
I added a sentence that places the spill in the context of historic oil spills, and good link to an article on the subject in the Encyclopedia of Earth.Energyadonis 00:08, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
The article is still in need of a good cleanup. An article of this magnitude needs serious attention - it was a HUGE deal, and the standard by which all other marine oil spill are still compared. The rating of low importance is odd considering the large amount of media attention it generated and its continued relevance to this day. The article is generally written in a somewhat personalised point of view, and lacks appropriate citations for many if not most points. For now, I am removing this section on cleanup:
As it is uncited, and misleading as written. There is concern over this, but this reeks of partiality. Trust me, the oil far FAR more devastating. The issue was probably more tied in with the increased solubility of the toxic components of the oil when mixed with a surfactant - what were they thinking? As for other info, I will rewrite, remove, and add citations as necessary, but I am very cramped for time these days, so my hands are somewhat tied.Halogenated (talk) 16:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I am procrastinating and I did a bit of reworking, specifically on the cleanup and environmental consequences section. It's not much, but it's a start. Here's a very basic outline list of work that needs to be addressed or added to these sections in terms of ongoing and long term effects:
Fisheries
MArine mammals
Birds
Kelp Shoreline ecosystems
coral
Halogenated (talk) 18:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
This article could use a concise summary of the Exxon Valdez at the time of the spill; length, tonnage, horsepower, date built, crewing, etc. I was in search of the length and had to find it elsewhere. (For what it's worth, it's reported as 986 feet).
Stan Jones Anchorage, Alaska —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.237.168.101 (talk) 01:59, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
There had been such a large amount of ongoing valdalism to the article for the last while that it requires a serious revision to a much older edit. It also needs to be locked to established editors only. I'd like to try and preserve factual and helpful edits from this period, but this may be too difficult to do. I will look for a proper previous edit to revert the article to, and would encourage all valid contributors to re-add their information. I'd be looking to do this within the next week or so. Any objections?Halogenated (talk) 23:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Second Warning. I will be doing a serious revision within a few days. Any objections?Halogenated (talk) 04:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I continue to hear from a number of independent sources that if Valdez were double hauled it would likely of sunk and would of been a bigger disaster. Do you think the section on aftermath should be updated to reflect that point?Mantion (talk) 06:44, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand the sentence:
In the aftermath of the Exxon Valdez incident, the U.S. Congress passed the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, including a clause prohibiting vessels that had caused oil spills of more than one million U.S. gallons (3,800 m³).
Does this mnean you can't build ships like the kind that spill oil? You can't use ships to haul oil if it might spill more than 1million gallons? You can't spill more than a million gallons at a time? What the heck is prohibited here? Padillah (talk) 19:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I pulled this item out of the article during the above-mentioned revamp, and I've no other place to put it.
I don't know who added it, but it's not appropriate for the article itself. - KrakatoaKatie 07:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC) The boat is now called west river —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.213.237.231 (talk) 21:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
i find it saddening that the wikiprojects moitroing this article marked it as low importance when it is one of the most devastating and famous shipwreck tradgedies of all time! Also, the case i still going on today. ~Meldshal42 21:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Anyone else here thinking that since this article is being vandalised almost daily it might make sense to reapply protection? Halogenated (talk) 03:11, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
AtProposed bailout of United States financial system some one posted that this included Tax breaks and credit extensions for the following: Litigants in the 1989 Exxon-Valdez oil spill (Sec. 504). hope that helps the people here. (Hypnosadist) 09:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
There are 2 sections called "External links". They should be combined. Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 11:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Due to the attempts of Exxon to downplay the accident and change this article, I think this article should be put on semi-protected status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.223.118 (talk) 01:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
This article is bias towards environmentalists. Adding a neutrality tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.202.83.63 (talk) 16:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree that this should be semi protected.
I was told by someone in the shipping industry, which I happen to work in myself, about the helmsman Robert Kagen. I was told that that either the crew of the vessel or the company had tried to fire him several times for being an incompetent helmsman. But, because he was the nephew of one of the higer ups in the union, they were unable to fire him even though they wanted to. Has anyone ever heard this before? --JS747 (talk) 15:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I know that there was talk about this and one of the two Anchorage newspapers (that existed at the time) possibly reported this. If someone is in or has access to Anchorage news archives or The University of Alaska Anchorage's library this might be verified. It would be interesting to have the archives searched and see further evidence to this Mohayrix (talk) 06:26, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
I have to do a project for school and I have to find out things like How long was the event covered? When, in relationship to the time that the event happened, did the coverage start? Who was affected by the event? Who saw, influenced, or was part of the event? Why did the media choose to cover the event? What stake did a particular network(s) have in reporting this event? Why was this event chosen rather than or in addition to others?
Also were there any media polls taking on this event? If you could just give me some websites so i could find this information that's be great :) Thanks 65.40.226.229 (talk) 18:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I was just reading through the Open Courseware for "System Safety" at MIT. Leveson there states that there were many more causes for the severe impact of this accident than mere navigational error. Among these were: iceberg monitoring equipment was not installed which resulted in Exxon Valdez travelling outside the normal sea lane in order to avoid icebergs. The radar station in Valdez (responsible for monitoring sea traffic in that area) had been replaced with much less powerful equipment which did not cover the Bligh Reef, which meant that the radar could not monitor position of tankers where the accident occurred. Coast Guard at Valdez did not perform safety inspection of the Exxon Valdez due to staff cuts. The Coast Guard had discontinued the monitoring of tankers around Bligh Reef without the tanker crews being told.
| See page 12 of "Course Notes", available at this MIT webpage.
I may come across as a conspiracy theorist, but it does sound as if city officials and Exxon blamed everything on Captain Hazelwood when in reality it was a long story of mismanagement that caused the accident. If this is taught at a respected US academic institution, I think this article ought to include sections on the wider issues around the accident. AadaamS (talk) 10:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
"Prince William Sound's remote location (accessible only by helicopter, plane and boat)" Huh? Where in any ocean of the world is there better accessibility? Ships don't travel routes on superhighways. Better information than this is needed to support the claim of unusual remoteness. Altgeld (talk) 06:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
It's now 21 years on from this disaster. To what extent has the ecosystem recovered? Is there any part of the ecosystem that has not recovered?
What studies have been done?
Have populations of fauna recovered to their original levels?
220.237.127.74 (talk) 12:42, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I've heard recent reports that all, or virtually all, of the crew that cleaned up the Exxon Valdez Oil spill are dead. A person on CNN being interviewed appeared to be the source for this, but I haven't been able to confirm it. If legit, it would be an important part of the article, I think.
Anyone with better web-fu have other information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.72.133.194 (talk) 03:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
There was enough talk of this between spill workers and the public that I included a stanza that adressed this in a song that I wrote and released to the Alaskan public airwaves. I wrote the song from the perspective of a spill worker and environmentalist. I am still alive and am sure that there are others as well. To the best of my knowledge the toxicity of cleaning the oil did in fact have human health consequenses and being a spill worker may have contributed to the decline my personal health. The politics of this disaster will leave many facts covered up, especially the behind the scenes of the spill workers. We were working in ankle deep oil that covered Nuka Beach on Nuka Island in the Kenei Fiord's and the fumes did in fact have some people being medically treated. It was possibly in the Alaska media at the time but I am no longer there and do not have the resources to investigate further. The average age of spill workers were between 25-35 at the time.Mohayrix (talk) 07:26, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
In summary, the Exxon Shipping Company 1) failed to maintain its radar equipment in operating condition, 2) sailed into unsafe waters without an adequate safety plan, and 3) allowed a captain with a drinking problem to continue to be in charge of the vessel, which led to the third mate (who didn't turn on the radar) to be in charge of the ship rather than the captain, who presumably had better training. Whether the captain would have turned on the radar had he been sober and in charge is an unknown, but it seems to be a fair inference that the company's overly-relaxed attitude toward safety left a great deal to be desired. In addition, the oil industry did not live up to its agreement to use double-hulled tankers and state-of-the-art iceberg monitoring equipment; the tanker was not tracked properly and the crew was not informed of this; the crew was small, overworked, and in a rush; Exxon Valdez was not inspected as it should have been; and no one was prepared to contain a spill as large as this one.[citation needed]
Rich Farmbrough, 10:21, 5 October 2010 (UTC).
Watch out for this - all to easy to write stuff like "100,000 to as many as 250,000" compare - "as few as 100,000 to as many as 250,000" - "as few as 100,000 to 250,000" - better is "100,000 to 250,000" whether these numbers are "few" or "many" depends on many factors, mainly perspective (for example are we thinking about the sea-bird population 100 years later? is the population 300,000 or 10,000,000? are we thinking globally or locally? are we thinking about suffering of the animals or the environmental impact?) Rich Farmbrough, 10:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC).
Just some notes which I hope help:
Also comparing this with Chernobyl, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Bhopal, the Dust Bowl, the Sahara, deforestation, the Great sparrow campaign. the creation of the fens etc. the severity of the environmental impact seems overstated. Indeed, I am fairly sure received wisdom is that it is not individual oil spills, however large,that pose significant environmental risk, but the rapid and widespread succession of them over modern times.
Rich Farmbrough, 13:27, 5 October 2010 (UTC).
I am a former commercial fisherman, drift gillnet in Bristol Bay, Alaska, before and after the Exxon Valdez spill. This is entirely a personal observation, especially the time-line involved. We were classed as "Unoiled Fisheries Claim Category", as the Bristol Bay fish (King and Sockeye Salmon) were not literally "oiled", but we suffered a significant loss of income, due to the confusion of the spill, and the unknown effect at that time. Approximate values (not a fixed price at all canneries) for the 1988 season were around $2.00+/#, while the value for post-Exxon were in the neighborhood of $0.60/#. When dealing with a per vessel production of 100,000# to 200,000# or more (at least in the Oak Harbor, Washington fleet), the difference in earnings is greatly magnified. Today, I finally received my "Exxon Supplemental Claim Distribution" - five checks equaling maybe 10% of the income reduction of years 1989 & 1990 --- and only 21 years and 7 months after the spill! A warning and a lesson for any or all that may be in similar litigation. ````sailorto —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sailorto (talk • contribs) 03:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
I think it would be very useful, if the page contained a link to barrel or oil barrel. It would render the volumes involved more readily intelligible for people around world who understand volumes in litres, for instance. The conversion to metric tons is useful, yes, but the conversion code makes it impossible (or at least too difficult for me) to incorporate in the first instance of the world "barrel" the link to the wikipedia article barrel or oil barrel. If some one knows how to insert that link, I think many would appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npyrhone (talk • contribs) 11:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC) ujhygtfrdefrgthyjuhygtfr
Article says "2100 km of coastline was oiled". Does that mean the entire southcoast of Alaska? Or does it mean that the canadian westcoast was affected as well? Maybe even the Washington state coastline? Just curious.
Stein S, Oslo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.209.88.240 (talk) 17:33, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the protocol is, but the link referring to: Nancy G. Leveson (July 2005). "Software System Safety". Ocw.mit.edu. pp. 18–20. Retrieved July 30, 2010 sends the user to a page that says "Page Not Found." --71.198.44.125 (talk) 17:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
>> Exxon Valdez spill effects linger 25 years on(Lihaas (talk) 18:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)).
The article contains this line: "Exxon Shipping Company failed to supervise the master and"
There is no link or explanation as to what the "master" is Zedshort (talk) 01:58, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
The article on the Exxon Valdez mentions the spill being between 10.8 and 31.7 million gallons - but here it's between 11 and 38 million gallons ... the upper bound is 20% higher! Is there any reliable source that has dependable figures? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 04:51, 24 March 2015 (UTC)