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Someone competent needs to read the article and decide which ship was to be named "Sultan Osman I" At present the information is logically inconsistent, and therefore WRONG. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.190.49 (talk) 12:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
HMS Erin was not a 'King George V' class battleship as stated in the opening. The 'King George V' class were designed as 35,000-ton Washington Treaty battleships well after World War I. Because the Erin was designed with 5 main-armament turrets, it probably belonged to the class prior to the 'Queen Elizabeth' series of battleships. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.53.174.81 (talk) 05:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm looking at the "despite this" clause in the below blockquote—is that sentence also speculation from Fromkin? If not, I'd suggest changing that to "Regardless, the Ottoman government ..."
Although there is no evidence that the seizure played any part in the Ottoman government declaring war on Britain and the Triple Entente,[19] historian David Fromkin has speculated that the Turks promised to transfer Sultan Osman I to the Germans in exchange for signing a secret defensive alliance on 1 August. Despite this, the Ottoman government was intent on remaining neutral until Russian disasters during the invasion of East Prussia in September persuaded Enver Pasha and Djemal Pasha, the Ministers of War and of the Marine, respectively, that the time was ripe to exploit Russian weakness.
I have seen conflicting sources on this date. In John Keegans book The First World War pg 216, he says they were seized two days after the ottoman-german alliance was signed, which would mean it was seized on august 4. However Eugene Rogans book The Great War the fall of the ottomans pg 39 he says that they were seized august 1, the day before the ottomans signed the treaty and he cites Enver Pasha’s letters. All of the other sources I have found simply say it happened in early august. Also this page is conflicting in of itself because the opening paragraph says that it was in august and then further goes on later to say 29 July. Lukeferg96 (talk) 04:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]